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Post by Aqua on Oct 6, 2021 17:30:52 GMT -5
Crowfeather went through a lot in his life and neglected Breezepelt because of it. Do you think his behavior toward his son was understandable?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 6, 2021 17:37:12 GMT -5
understandable but not excuseable.
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 6, 2021 21:17:17 GMT -5
Nah. Not only is it inexcusable, but I cannot see how his relationship failures with mates should ever effect the way he treats his own child who he willingly chose to have with another cat. Like, I’m kind of tired of neglect being “understood” because someone had some tough breaks in the past due to your own choices. Like I understand if it makes him emotionally defunct, but he didn’t even try at all from the time we saw him interact with Breezepelt. Like I’m sorry, but if you can praise and support Lionpaw for his hunting, you can do the same for your known child at the time who does the exact same thing. His behavior was awful and I can’t understand how he thought that was just a-okay.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Oct 6, 2021 23:33:30 GMT -5
Not excusable but at the very least, explainable. If his SE is anything to go by anyways
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Post by crowspirit on Oct 7, 2021 6:34:32 GMT -5
Understandable, but not excusable. That's my opinion as a Crowfeather fan. And now I'm swiftly going to leave before fighting breaks out again.
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Post by Riverdapple on Oct 7, 2021 6:34:36 GMT -5
I do like how he finally attempted to change and started the journey to fix his relationship with Breezepelt in his SE, because the way he acted before definitely bothered me. It's good to see some development there.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 7, 2021 8:54:30 GMT -5
As others have already said, Crowfeather's behaviour towards Breezepelt is explainable but not excuseable.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Oct 7, 2021 9:10:20 GMT -5
A little understandable. I understand the pain of his life, especially when it comes to mates, but I don't understand his actions towards Breezepelt.
Being resentful towards Nightcloud is even more understandable than being hostile towards Breezepelt. He's Crowfeather's son and it was his own actions that made Breezepelt born! Don't treat someone--let alone your own child--badly just because you've had a bad love life.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 7, 2021 19:28:25 GMT -5
No. It isn't difficult to be at least polite to your kid and Breezepelt hadn't even done anything to Crowfeather. If you're going through relationship problems it's common sense to not take it out on the kid who's basically just spectating. It was especially worse since Breezepelt wasn't really even the main cause of Crowfeather's problems with Nightcloud.
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Post by cinder :P on Oct 7, 2021 19:35:28 GMT -5
Breezepelt being a jerk does not excuse Crowfeather being a jerk to him.
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Post by scarletflames on Oct 8, 2021 0:22:51 GMT -5
I voted no.
While I “understand” Crowfeather’s psychology, it doesn’t excuse how he severely emotionally neglected Breezepelt, and some of his interactions with Breezepelt pre-CT felt borderline emotionally abusive to me. And I don’t think Ashfoot or Deadfoot were neglectful or abusive to Crowfeather from what I remember, so it’s not even that Crow was unconsciously passing down intergenerational trauma.
Even if Crowfeather didn’t understand how badly his parenting effected Breezepelt/was lashing out due to his own issues, rather than intentionally/maliciously neglecting Breezepelt, there’s still no excuse for the way he treated Breezepelt like a mixture of Invisible Child and Scapegoat. Breezepelt never asked to be born, Crowfeather and Nightcloud chose to bring him into a loveless marriage, (and got together for selfish reasons rather than love), and no child deserves to be in that terrible position. (Even though I’ll acknowledge Crowfeather wasn’t aware this was what he was doing, unlike Lizardstripe who knew she was abusive to Brokenkit but didn’t care).
I like that Crow and Breeze made up in CT, and I’m glad Crowfeather was able to introspect, and change for the better, but I’m sensitive enough to emotional neglect and emotional abuse that I cannot fully forgive Crow (or Night) for how poorly they raised Breezepelt from kithood-his adulthood before CT.
This doesn’t excuse Breezepelt’s terrible actions before CT, but Crow and Night were definitely emotionally neglectful and I personally think they were emotionally abusive too pre-CT.
I have a feeling nobody will try to change my mind, but I want to throw that my mind cannot and will not be changed on this particular Warriors family dynamic. Part of why my feelings are so strong was I was raised in an abusive home, and while I turned out closer to Lionblaze than Breezepelt, I have personal reasons why I cannot forgive Warriors parents like Sandgorse, Rainflower, Lizardstripe, Nightcloud or Crowfeather.
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Post by Fireleap on Oct 8, 2021 9:30:43 GMT -5
HA! Absolutely not. I'm interpreting this as pre-The Last Hope. Crowfeather's behavior is inexcusable. No matter what issues he was having, Breezepelt was his son and he should've been treated like it.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 8, 2021 12:12:41 GMT -5
No way.
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