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Post by Aqua on Oct 2, 2021 16:51:53 GMT -5
What's your opinion on her?
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Post by Chicken on Oct 2, 2021 17:00:47 GMT -5
She was entertaining before she met The Kin, and I like how she gave her life to save Violetshine (though, Violetshine wouldn't be in that mess in the first place if not for her) but other than that, I don't really like her much.
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 2, 2021 17:04:07 GMT -5
Nope. Hated how she treated Violetshine, and I hated how she took 0 accountability for her own part in the entire mess. Blaming everything on everyone else but herself in Starclan utterly ruined her from ever being redeemable to me. I’ll be happy to never see her again but knowing these books, they’ll bring her back just to annoy me.
She’s not complex at all to me. She’s a brat. That’s really about it.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 2, 2021 17:30:37 GMT -5
Like, I don't think she's that bad, but she's not that amazingly well written either. But I suppose she's not the worst cat in AVoS, and she's entertaining to read about.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 2, 2021 17:39:24 GMT -5
Not a fan. Needletail's character was interesting but I really hate how she treated Violetshine and then got such a bad redemption.
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Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Oct 2, 2021 20:00:44 GMT -5
I liked her in The Apprentices Quest before they meet the Kin , but ends after that . While I don’t hate her now by any means , she comes off as just some Generic incorrigible , rebellious punk that has Zero reason to feel so Disdainful towards her Clanmates aside from not liking Rules I Guess ? ( I know about the Bonus Scene In Thunder and shadow , but honestly that’s not enough excuse to become a little rapscallion and completely betray shadowclan and join The kin ) and how she treated Violetshine/paw is pretty Rotten as well. I understand some people like her for being a spunky , Rebel child , but sorry , Nope . And I’m Not even Going to Bother Delving into Her incredibly Rushed 10 page long Redemption . That kind of Sloppy Storytelling doesn’t Resonate well with me . And as Moonblazer has stated above , she took 0% accountability for any her transgressions and wrongdoings . Sorry needletail , started off decent enough , then Flopped on your face .
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Oct 2, 2021 20:02:07 GMT -5
I have never liked her.
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Post by Rainsplash on Oct 2, 2021 20:11:47 GMT -5
I hate her. I could never stand her in the first place.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Oct 3, 2021 6:11:26 GMT -5
She's a disgusting character. Not a fan.
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Aroace
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Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 3, 2021 8:02:56 GMT -5
Neutral/Dislike.
The way in which Needletail treated Violetpaw was just very manipulative and how she later did not take even an ounce of responibilty for her part in the downfall of ShadowClan makes it seem as if her redemption and sacrifice is not that noble but instead only happened because she got personally affected by Darktail's cruelty (Rain's death and almost losing Violetpaw).
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Post by Rio on Oct 3, 2021 8:53:15 GMT -5
She's my favourite character lmao
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Post by Numquam on Oct 3, 2021 13:25:16 GMT -5
I love her she's great and she's my favourite character
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Post by halogen on Oct 3, 2021 14:18:11 GMT -5
Easily the most interesting character in AVOS, though that might say more about the lack of interesting characters in AVOS than anything else. Doesn't mean I think she had it all that bad or particularly sympathize with her up until Shattered Sky, but her character is realistic and reminds me of real people I've heard of who wanted to rebel and join some completely different government/country they idealized but was actually horrible, and sometimes ended up getting killed in the process. I do sympathize with her a lot in Shattered Sky, no matter how selfish and naive she was what happened to her was tragic, especially with how young she was when all this happens. It annoys me when people think she's badly written for having a 'bad/rushed redemption", if every character followed a structured redemption arc where they atoned in just the right way then none of them would feel like unique characters with their own character arc according to their personality, sometimes it can be interesting to have a character who's just a bad person who does good things. And I really judge characters by what they did in life rather than what quotes the author put in the mouth of their StarClan selves for drama anyway, otherwise I would have to hate all the dead characters. I wish we could have had more of her in the story. Not my favorite character ever, but my favorite from AVOS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 14:34:57 GMT -5
I just think it would have been cool if her name was Needlefang honestly
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Oct 3, 2021 15:17:42 GMT -5
I hate her. She's never sorry for what she's done and rather drag everyone else
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Post by thewinterblaze on Oct 3, 2021 18:31:07 GMT -5
She is, and no offence, a brat. A selfish, cynical, everyone-else-is-horrible brat. From the moment she showed up in the middle of Alderheart's journey to when she finally died, she's always been one of my least favorite characters. She's just too generic. The spunky rebel has been done way too many times now, and her personality is just jarring.
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Post by Aqua on Oct 3, 2021 22:14:29 GMT -5
Nope. Hated how she treated Violetshine, and I hated how she took 0 accountability for her own part in the entire mess. Blaming everything on everyone else but herself in Starclan utterly ruined her from ever being redeemable to me. I’ll be happy to never see her again but knowing these books, they’ll bring her back just to annoy me. She’s not complex at all to me. She’s a brat. That’s really about it. They'll likely give her a novella lol
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Heterosexual
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Oct 4, 2021 17:14:45 GMT -5
She's my favourite character lmao Let the controversy... BEGIN!
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Oct 5, 2021 13:04:05 GMT -5
I thought she was a great character, not morally good for most of her life but I'm pretty sure she was trying to make a change after she saw how bad her mistakes were.
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Post by MadameDelune on Oct 5, 2021 13:22:41 GMT -5
She truly redeemed herself and became one of the bravest warriors imo taking on 3 cats to save Violetpaw knowing fully well she was gonna die horribly. Absolutely one of my favorite cats.
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