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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 13:30:01 GMT -5
What are your favorite and least favorite plot twists in this series?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 28, 2021 13:31:13 GMT -5
cant think of my favorite, but my least favorite is firestar being the forth cat
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 13:32:38 GMT -5
cant think of my favorite, but my least favorite is firestar being the forth cat I'm really surprised you didn't say Ashfur being the villain of this arc lol
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 28, 2021 13:34:06 GMT -5
cant think of my favorite, but my least favorite is firestar being the forth cat I'm really surprised you didn't say Ashfur being the villain of this arc lol thats not a plot twist to most people. remember how everyone was crying "it's so ooooobvious" when the first book came out? lmaao
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 28, 2021 13:34:38 GMT -5
Favorite: Willowshine being a controlled spirit/the fire scene Least favorite: Like ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ said, firestar being the fourth cat.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 13:38:05 GMT -5
ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆Lol yeah, I had so many hopes it was just a red herring. Midnightcacoon loves SunbeamThose were good plot twists! I bet a lot of animations about the Willowshine thing will be made.
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Post by Aqua on Sept 28, 2021 13:47:08 GMT -5
Favorite: Leafpool telling the truth to Hollyleaf Least Favorite: Onestar admitting he's the father to Darktail
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 14:15:07 GMT -5
Favorite: Leafpool telling the truth to Hollyleaf Least Favorite: Onestar admitting he's the father to Darktail Agreed about the Onestar one, the Leafpool and Hollyleaf one was really cool!
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Post by crowspirit on Sept 28, 2021 15:03:37 GMT -5
My favourite is probably still the fire scene, it's overdrawn at this point and I'm kind of sick of seeing people always talk about it, but it's still iconic and I think it was great.
Least favourite is probably Onestar being Darktailʼs dad, Blackstar would have made more sense. Heck, even Sol.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 15:14:55 GMT -5
My favourite is probably still the fire scene, it's overdrawn at this point and I'm kind of sick of seeing people always talk about it, but it's still iconic and I think it was great. Least favourite is probably Onestar being Darktailʼs dad, Blackstar would have made more sense. Heck, even Sol. Agreed about Onestar being Darktail's dad because it literally did NOTHING but give Onestar a redemption I guess before they killed him off. Sol being his dad is really interesting, I don't think I've seen that before, but I love the idea.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 28, 2021 15:44:28 GMT -5
I really liked the plottwist that Hollyleaf killed Ashfur.
My least favorite is DEFINITELY Firestar being the fourth cat
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 15:47:52 GMT -5
I really liked the plottwist that Hollyleaf killed Ashfur. My least favorite is DEFINITELY Firestar being the fourth cat That was an interesting plot twist with Hollyleaf, especially since they painted Squirrelflight as the red herring by making her fur muddy/wet or whatever after Ashfur was found dead or something, Idr the exact chain of events.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 28, 2021 15:51:53 GMT -5
I really liked the plottwist that Hollyleaf killed Ashfur. My least favorite is DEFINITELY Firestar being the fourth cat That was an interesting plot twist with Hollyleaf, especially since they painted Squirrelflight as the red herring by making her fur muddy/wet or whatever after Ashfur was found dead or something, Idr the exact chain of events. Ikr, even though I would have also liked it if Squilf killed Ashfur.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 15:54:20 GMT -5
That was an interesting plot twist with Hollyleaf, especially since they painted Squirrelflight as the red herring by making her fur muddy/wet or whatever after Ashfur was found dead or something, Idr the exact chain of events. Ikr, even though I would have also liked it if Squilf killed Ashfur. Same, imagine if it was Leafpool who did it
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 28, 2021 16:02:17 GMT -5
Ikr, even though I would have also liked it if Squilf killed Ashfur. Same, imagine if it was Leafpool who did it Omg yes
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 16:05:31 GMT -5
Same, imagine if it was Leafpool who did it Omg yes It would be such a plot twist to see a character you'd never expect to kill anyone, to kill someone, and it not be in self defense.
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Post by Fireleap on Sept 28, 2021 16:56:01 GMT -5
Not my favorite but one I haven't seen yet. Jayfeather being blind. If you go into The Sight blind you don't learn he's blind until he falls into the camp. I think that's pretty neat.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 28, 2021 18:24:31 GMT -5
Favorite: Hollyleaf being revealed as the one who killed Ashfur. Looking back, she was in such a demented state of mind after the reveal it should have been obvious, but she was soooo strict about the following the code it was a real shocker, and I loved it.
Least favorite: Firestar being the fourth cat. It was genuinely underwhelming, especially considering the build-up towards the Great Battle.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 28, 2021 18:30:05 GMT -5
Now I'm curious if anyone likes the Firestar being the fourth cat twist, because that seems to be the least favorite that has been said on here the most
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Post by Cloudstorm on Sept 28, 2021 19:35:28 GMT -5
Oh boy . Well let’s start with Favorite Plot twist .
Scourge Eviscerating Tigerstar with a single blow after being lead on that there was gonna be an epic showdown between tigerstar and Firestar , only for Firestar to have to face off against Scourge , best Plot twist , most iconic scene Hands down , no contest for me .
Least favorite…… Hollyleaf being revealed to not be one of the Three , and Jayfeather/lionblaze/Hollyleaf not being Bramble/squirrels kits , instead leafpool and Crowfeathers , and Ashfur being the Villain of the Arc after over 2 years of Buildup , Seriously ?. And then Hollyleaf murdering Ashfur to keep there secret from gettting out, only to Spill all the Beans at the next Gathering , defeating the purpose of taking out ashfur in the first place . Then her running away , cause apparently she couldn’t handle being half-clan etc. heck I might as well just through the entirety of Long shadows and Sunrise under The bus . And not to Forget , they’ve been using the Results of the Aftermath as a plot device to add unnecessary Drama for the past 12+ years . Just no , screw that plot twist soooo HARD. And yeah Firestar being the fourth cat was underwhelming as hell too , i mean After waiting 6 years for the 3 to Finally use there powers to save the Day against this super-hyped up , cataclysmic threat ? They deflect all the attention off of The 3 , and make it all about Firestar(which don’t Get me wrong , I have a huge soft spot for him, but he’s already had plenty of Screentime to shine at that point , and it was jayfeather, lionblaze and…Dovewing’s Time to shine ). Anyway that’s the end of my Rant
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Post by Cloudy Sky on Sept 29, 2021 1:36:20 GMT -5
Now I'm curious if anyone likes the Firestar being the fourth cat twist, because that seems to be the least favorite that has been said on here the most I think the reasoning behind it was that OotS would wrap up the series, and so it made sense that Firestar would be involved in both the first and last prophecies as kind of like a bookend. Then the bookend effect didn't work because it wasn't the end anymore. If OotS had been the last series of the modern era then Firestar being the fourth cat would have been a whole lot nicer as it would serve to bookend and wrap up the series with Firestar saving the Clans in the beginning and Firestar saving the Clans at the end. That said, I didn't particularly like it either.
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Post by whiteflight on Sept 29, 2021 1:58:22 GMT -5
Now I'm curious if anyone likes the Firestar being the fourth cat twist, because that seems to be the least favorite that has been said on here the most I agree on everything Cloud Sky says. The whole warriors series started with Firestar and now it will end with him. Plus he also never got to finish the fight with Tigerstar so I did want that battle to happen even if I knew Tigerstar would die anyways. I actually like this plot twist but it's not my favorite.
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Post by Cloudy Sky on Sept 29, 2021 1:59:57 GMT -5
Ikr, even though I would have also liked it if Squilf killed Ashfur. Same, imagine if it was Leafpool who did it I would love this lol. Sweet, kind Leafpool the medicine cat, murdering Ashfur in cold blood to protect her secret. That would be one hell of a plot twist. Especially given how she acted after his death.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Sept 29, 2021 5:47:44 GMT -5
Favorite: Squirrelflight not being the Three's mother.
Least favorite: Onestar being Darktail's father.
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Post by Riverdapple on Sept 29, 2021 20:11:55 GMT -5
Wow I completely forgot about the Firestar thing, it's been too long since I last read OotS!
Glad to see a mention of Jayfeather's blindness, because that was one of my favorite twists! Him finally complaining about being blind made me go "wait what!!" and flip back and reread all the prior scenes with him, from what I recall they did a good job at portraying his point of view without making it obvious that he was missing a sense until it was actually revealed, and I found it clever. As has been mentioned many times, Squirrelflight's reveal aka the fire scene, I think why I love it so much is because there aren't too many instances in this series where you can find a secret being planned out for multiple books, again I feel like it was done well. Also finding out about the ancient cats around the lake, who became the Tribe, who partially became the Clans. I really don't have a reason for liking that one, it just makes me Feel Something I can't explain lol.
As for least favorite twists, as others have said, Darktail. It felt very..... fanfic-y to me. (A lot of AVoS did, if I'm honest. I'll have to see if I feel the same upon rereading it.)
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