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Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 25, 2021 16:32:33 GMT -5
I know that this project was previously called something else (Tropical Scourge) and that there were some discussions on Twitter voicing concerns over the island theme so I'm assuming this is why the title and aesthetic was changed slightly. It turned out amazing though and is very impressive and creative in both animation and storytelling.
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 25, 2021 17:09:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry but the design change really didn't help the video at all. The fact that Tigerstar cannot recognize Ravenpaw now seems comic to the point of parody when his only disguise is a hat as opposed to the full-on obstruction of a skull. Matters are not helped by the parts which were blatantly censored resulting in suboptimal animation due to having a hat forced in place of a skull. It reminds me a lot of the early 4Kids censorship flubs.
It really puts a bitter taste in my mouth and to make it worse, the theme change doesn't help either. The theme being changed to pirates now feels incredibly out of place with the rest of the MAP. Since when are pirates associated with iguanas? Where is the treasure and gold associated with pirates? The bawdiness? This MAP absolutely nails the idea of tropical but it's so obvious that it was never intended to be pirates and that was just shoved in later.
I think this MAP could have been really good, a lot better than Desert Mapleshade (as I think it hits the tropical theme and ideas much better than that one by using the setting in a far more clever way) but man the obvious censorship just hamstrings it unfortunately.
The Twitter drama was astonishingly petty too. Claiming this MAP is appropriating Pacific Islander culture requires someone to have failed Geography considering the fact that this MAP blatantly isn't taking place in the Pacific. Alligators and iguanas don't live in the Pacific! Nor is the usage of skulls some kind of unique trait to the Pacific, having been used by literal prehistoric cultures in Europe, Celtic peoples, and to some extent in Mississippian cultures.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 25, 2021 17:39:41 GMT -5
The map is really pretty, plus it has a catchy song I love the alligator gang, that was adorable
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Post by MadameDelune on Sept 25, 2021 20:48:22 GMT -5
My friend was kicked out of the map cuz someone stalked them who didn’t like them from Twitter and tried to lie to cheeteh about a bunch of things about my friend. Then cheeteh kicked them (and the group they were collabing with) out without any explanation and blocked them after they were already finished with their part. You can kick a participant out for any reason, but if you give them no explanation and just block them after they’ve already done their part then that’s a really crappy thing to do. If things would have just been handled maturely with “hey! You’re being kicked out for x reason.” That would have been totally fine. But nope,
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 25, 2021 21:04:46 GMT -5
My friend was kicked out of the map cuz someone stalked them who didn’t like them from Twitter and tried to lie to cheeteh about a bunch of things about my friend. Then cheeteh kicked them (and the group they were collabing with) out without any explanation and blocked them after they were already finished with their part. You can kick a participant out for any reason, but if you give them no explanation and just block them after they’ve already done their part then that’s a really crappy thing to do. If things would have just been handled maturely with “hey! You’re being kicked out for x reason.” That would have been totally fine. But nope, What was your friend's screen name? That really stinks and just adds more problems to this MAP's production.
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Post by MadameDelune on Sept 25, 2021 21:37:09 GMT -5
My friend was kicked out of the map cuz someone stalked them who didn’t like them from Twitter and tried to lie to cheeteh about a bunch of things about my friend. Then cheeteh kicked them (and the group they were collabing with) out without any explanation and blocked them after they were already finished with their part. You can kick a participant out for any reason, but if you give them no explanation and just block them after they’ve already done their part then that’s a really crappy thing to do. If things would have just been handled maturely with “hey! You’re being kicked out for x reason.” That would have been totally fine. But nope, What was your friend's screen name? That really stinks and just adds more problems to this MAP's production. It’s Demi m0n. The things that happened to them is just rlly unfortunate
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 25, 2021 21:47:21 GMT -5
What was your friend's screen name? That really stinks and just adds more problems to this MAP's production. It’s Demi m0n. The things that happened to them is just rlly unfortunate Oh that's crazy...and pretty messed up. I'm sorry for your friend...
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Aroace
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 26, 2021 5:57:05 GMT -5
My friend was kicked out of the map cuz someone stalked them who didn’t like them from Twitter and tried to lie to cheeteh about a bunch of things about my friend. Then cheeteh kicked them (and the group they were collabing with) out without any explanation and blocked them after they were already finished with their part. You can kick a participant out for any reason, but if you give them no explanation and just block them after they’ve already done their part then that’s a really crappy thing to do. If things would have just been handled maturely with “hey! You’re being kicked out for x reason.” That would have been totally fine. But nope, That is very unfortunate. I wasn't aware of this. Someone linked me the document made by a team of indigenous people regarding Native American stereotypes in the Warriors series and I just saw a few comments under the Twitter thread talking about the Tropical Scourge (now Pirate Scourge) MAP getting a name and theme change which is how I even found out about this project being involved in any drama. Perhaps contacting Cheeteh through their Youtube channel or explaining the situation in a comment might help? It's just an idea though and I'm not sure how else it could be solved.
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Post by MadameDelune on Sept 26, 2021 8:33:18 GMT -5
My friend was kicked out of the map cuz someone stalked them who didn’t like them from Twitter and tried to lie to cheeteh about a bunch of things about my friend. Then cheeteh kicked them (and the group they were collabing with) out without any explanation and blocked them after they were already finished with their part. You can kick a participant out for any reason, but if you give them no explanation and just block them after they’ve already done their part then that’s a really crappy thing to do. If things would have just been handled maturely with “hey! You’re being kicked out for x reason.” That would have been totally fine. But nope, That is very unfortunate. I wasn't aware of this. Someone linked me the document made by a team of indigenous people regarding Native American stereotypes in the Warriors series and I just saw a few comments under the Twitter thread talking about the Tropical Scourge (now Pirate Scourge) MAP getting a name and theme change which is how I even found out about this project being involved in any drama. Perhaps contacting Cheeteh through their Youtube channel or explaining the situation in a comment might help? It's just an idea though and I'm not sure how else it could be solved. Eh we’ve already tried that. Cheeteh just wouldn’t listen and kept making up excuses and blamed Demi for posting the part they finished because they said it started drama. That doesn’t make any sense tho. Cheeteh’s lack of communication started the drama. You can’t blame the person you dropped for posting their hard work on YouTube This has all been resolved tho Demi doesn’t want it goin any further. We just left eachother alone but we will all not be participating in cheeteh’s maps in the future
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Aroace
#ffa100
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 26, 2021 8:44:32 GMT -5
That is very unfortunate. I wasn't aware of this. Someone linked me the document made by a team of indigenous people regarding Native American stereotypes in the Warriors series and I just saw a few comments under the Twitter thread talking about the Tropical Scourge (now Pirate Scourge) MAP getting a name and theme change which is how I even found out about this project being involved in any drama. Perhaps contacting Cheeteh through their Youtube channel or explaining the situation in a comment might help? It's just an idea though and I'm not sure how else it could be solved. Eh we’ve already tried that. Cheeteh just wouldn’t listen and kept making up excuses and blamed Demi for posting the part they finished because they said it started drama. That doesn’t make any sense tho. Cheeteh’s lack of communication started the drama. You can’t blame the person you dropped for posting their hard work on YouTube This has all been resolved tho Demi doesn’t want it goin any further. We just left eachother alone but we will all not be participating in cheeteh’s maps in the future I see. And agreed, they were the person making the MAP call in the first place. It's completely understandable that you and others now don't want be involved in any future projects hosted by Cheeteh.
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Post by Snowfire on Sept 26, 2021 14:01:32 GMT -5
I’ve noticed that a lot of the thumbnails made for the original MAP weren’t included, there was like 2 or 3 included in the credits but not the ones that had the most views and something like that. I don’t get it, they deserve some credit.
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