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Post by Chicken on Sept 26, 2021 17:16:36 GMT -5
andyYeah, it may be a joke, but you have to remember that a lot of the fans watching the videos and reading the comments are probably little kids, and even if they aren't, not everyone could be able to tell it was a joke. It's fine to make jokes, but tone indicators should be used so there is no confusion.
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Post by andy on Sept 26, 2021 17:20:34 GMT -5
it is literally a joke. it's harmless and not directed at anyone specifically. don't take random youtube comments that are clearly being stated jokingly so personally. anyways though, i want riverstar to win because mistystar SE would be zzz and ivypool as well unless it was her becoming deputy or leader, but any rigging that's going on is uncool. Could you please tell me how the tone indicates how it's a joke? It seems very serious to me, especially if the creator liked it. it's a joking way of writing/talking based on current day speech patterns widely between friends, people talk like this all the time in chill spaces and mean nothing by it. it'd be weird if they were saying it in reply to someone with a different opinion than them who they didn't know, but they were just saying it in response to a video in support of what they want and directed it at no one in particular. the creator liking it makes it even moreso obvious that it's a joke, because if it was a genuine threat i don't think it would've been liked. if anyone were to take this seriously and genuinely feel threatened, they need to start practicing their reading comprehension- same as anyone who would take it seriously and do actual threatening
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Post by barley on Sept 26, 2021 17:21:53 GMT -5
andyYeah, it may be a joke, but you have to remember that a lot of the fans watching the videos and reading the comments are probably little kids, and even if they aren't, not everyone could be able to tell it was a joke. It's fine to make jokes, but tone indicators should be used so there is no confusion. The commenter clarified that it was a joke when someone was confused by it. It’s a fairly common joke format, especially in YouTube comments.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 26, 2021 17:25:37 GMT -5
Could you please tell me how the tone indicates how it's a joke? It seems very serious to me, especially if the creator liked it. it's a joking way of writing/talking based on current day speech patterns widely between friends, people talk like this all the time in chill spaces and mean nothing by it. it'd be weird if they were saying it in reply to someone with a different opinion than them who they didn't know, but they were just saying it in response to a video in support of what they want and directed it at no one in particular. the creator liking it makes it even moreso obvious that it's a joke, because if it was a genuine threat i don't think it would've been liked. if anyone were to take this seriously and genuinely feel threatened, they need to start practicing their reading comprehension- same as anyone who would take it seriously and do actual threatening Even then it's not a particularly funny joke. Why would you "joke" about threatening someone over their vote on a poll for a murder cat series? Also you have to remember that there are many young children who enjoy this series, and they might have taken it seriously. You need to be careful of what you say, especially when you're on a public forum that definitely has many young children on there, who will take these things seriously.
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Post by andy on Sept 26, 2021 17:30:01 GMT -5
it's a joking way of writing/talking based on current day speech patterns widely between friends, people talk like this all the time in chill spaces and mean nothing by it. it'd be weird if they were saying it in reply to someone with a different opinion than them who they didn't know, but they were just saying it in response to a video in support of what they want and directed it at no one in particular. the creator liking it makes it even moreso obvious that it's a joke, because if it was a genuine threat i don't think it would've been liked. if anyone were to take this seriously and genuinely feel threatened, they need to start practicing their reading comprehension- same as anyone who would take it seriously and do actual threatening Even then it's not a particularly funny joke. Why would you "joke" about threatening someone over their vote on a poll for a murder cat series? Also you have to remember that there are many young children who enjoy this series, and they might have taken it seriously. You need to be careful of what you say, especially when you're on a public forum that definitely has many young children on there, who will take these things seriously. i think you're giving kids a lot less credit than they deserve. children are not all completely stupid and incapable of reading comprehension. you aren't totally without a point though, but afaik the person already clarified it wasn't a genuine threat and should not be taken as such, and i feel that's all that is needed to remedy the situation.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 26, 2021 17:33:34 GMT -5
Even then it's not a particularly funny joke. Why would you "joke" about threatening someone over their vote on a poll for a murder cat series? Also you have to remember that there are many young children who enjoy this series, and they might have taken it seriously. You need to be careful of what you say, especially when you're on a public forum that definitely has many young children on there, who will take these things seriously. i think you're giving kids a lot less credit than they deserve. children are not all completely stupid and incapable of reading comprehension. you aren't totally without a point though, but afaik the person already clarified it wasn't a genuine threat and should not be taken as such, and i feel that's all that is needed to remedy the situation. Yes! "Jokes" like that are not funny at all, especially considering the situation- for the love of StarClan, it's just a poll, people need to chill out and not even consider making that kind of joke!
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Post by Chicken on Sept 26, 2021 17:34:47 GMT -5
andy Yeah, it may be a joke, but you have to remember that a lot of the fans watching the videos and reading the comments are probably little kids, and even if they aren't, not everyone could be able to tell it was a joke. It's fine to make jokes, but tone indicators should be used so there is no confusion. The commenter clarified that it was a joke when someone was confused by it. It’s a fairly common joke format, especially in YouTube comments. Oh, well, I haven't seen much of this besides what was shown on here, I tend to not read youtube comments, because I find that most of them are full of little kids trying to act tough. I suppose that's my mistake though.
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Post by andy on Sept 26, 2021 17:39:22 GMT -5
i think you're giving kids a lot less credit than they deserve. children are not all completely stupid and incapable of reading comprehension. you aren't totally without a point though, but afaik the person already clarified it wasn't a genuine threat and should not be taken as such, and i feel that's all that is needed to remedy the situation. Yes! "Jokes" like that are not funny at all, especially considering the situation- for the love of StarClan, it's just a poll, people need to chill out and not even consider making that kind of joke! in a lot of cases i would agree that jokes like that aren't funny, it depends on the context and where they're placed, but in this case i disagree that it isn't funny at all. i personally don't see it as serious and i think some folks are just taking it a little too close to heart. we can't expect everyone to conform to what we think is acceptable as a joke or not just because of how we perceive the joke, though
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 26, 2021 17:40:50 GMT -5
Yes! "Jokes" like that are not funny at all, especially considering the situation- for the love of StarClan, it's just a poll, people need to chill out and not even consider making that kind of joke! in a lot of cases i would agree that jokes like that aren't funny, it depends on the context and where they're placed, but in this case i disagree that it isn't funny at all. i personally don't see it as serious and i think some folks are just taking it a little too close to heart. we can't expect everyone to conform to what we think is acceptable as a joke or not just because of how we perceive the joke, though Saying it as an inside joke between friends might be funny, saying it on a public forum where everyone can interpret it a different way and not everyone might know that it's a "meme template" it not.
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Post by andy on Sept 26, 2021 17:44:14 GMT -5
in a lot of cases i would agree that jokes like that aren't funny, it depends on the context and where they're placed, but in this case i disagree that it isn't funny at all. i personally don't see it as serious and i think some folks are just taking it a little too close to heart. we can't expect everyone to conform to what we think is acceptable as a joke or not just because of how we perceive the joke, though Saying it as an inside joke between friends might be funny, saying it on a public forum where everyone can interpret it a different way and not everyone might know that it's a "meme template" it not. i disagree. if that were the case, almost every joke would be inappropriate to say in public spaces because at least one person might take it the wrong way and get upset. jokes don't work like that, not everyone has to get them.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 26, 2021 17:45:53 GMT -5
Saying it as an inside joke between friends might be funny, saying it on a public forum where everyone can interpret it a different way and not everyone might know that it's a "meme template" it not. i disagree. if that were the case, almost every joke would be inappropriate to say in public spaces because at least one person might take it the wrong way and get upset. jokes don't work like that, not everyone has to get them. However, this is a "joke" about threatening people. Many, many people do not take threats to be "jokes."
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 26, 2021 19:27:13 GMT -5
+Wait a sec why's Ivypool votes only 14% and Riverstar 82%? And poor Mistystar she got 3% But this is really weird It's because the poll is now overwhelmingly influenced now. :/ Either it's bots and/or bnf influencing and swaying votes. Even if people made this into a fair poll again, it wouldn't matter because Riverstar now has a overwhelming lead, regardless of the next month or so I doubt the results will change much. It makes me disappointed because now people are just voiding the poll of any fun. I didn't want a Mistystar or Ivypool SE in the first place, but seeing the votes sway this much takes the fun out of voting
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 27, 2021 6:14:27 GMT -5
I got an reply from the site. Hi,
Thanks for contacting us.
We are aware of the issue with inauthentic votes and are investigating the matter. Any votes cast by an automated bot will be removed before the result is announced.
Thanks, Website Editorial Team Here is my original message to them which I sent yesterday. Hello there,
I'm here to ask if it would be possible for those who are in charge of the polls to reset the most recent one as it has been rigged.
Multiple people on Twitter or elsewhere are bragging about how they can easily vote for Riverstar multiple times because there is no ip detection, they are using a vpn or even bots.
Some of them have also asked people who are not even part of the community or not reading the books to go and vote for Riverstar.
I was logged in while voting for him and have only done so once. It just doesn't seem fair or fun anymore when there is such a level of spam voting involved.
Please reset the votes on the poll about who might get Super Edition 15 and make sure that everyone is only allowed to vote one time.
Apologies if my English has some spelling or grammar issues as it is not my first language.
Thank you and have a good day.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 27, 2021 10:23:53 GMT -5
So, this might be a dumb question, but how do they know which ones were voted by a bot and which ones are the actual votes?
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 27, 2021 11:43:23 GMT -5
So I was just looking around if anyone else from the Warriors community had contacted the official website about the rigged poll and found this on Twitter. They sure love the forums over there. At least Moonkitti also contacted the website about this current bot vote issue. But this is still a strange thing to get catty about.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 27, 2021 11:52:17 GMT -5
This is on the website for the voting process:
"Please be aware you must be a registered user to place a vote, and you are only able to vote once. Sign up for your account here. Any votes placed inauthentically with the use of a votebot will be removed. We are aware of this issue and currently investigating."
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Post by Chicken on Sept 27, 2021 11:55:03 GMT -5
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑I don't understand why she even sticks around on here if she hates the forums so much. Though, I have some ideas...
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Post by Moon on Sept 27, 2021 11:56:05 GMT -5
So I was just looking around if anyone else from the Warriors community had contacted the official website about the rigged poll and found this on Twitter. They sure love the forums over there. At least Moonkitti also contacted the website about this current bot vote issue. But this is still a strange thing to get catty about. Screenshotting people's jokes on youtube and posting them on the forums to complain vs Screenshotting people's bad takes on the wcrpforums and posting them on twitter to complain vs Screenshotting people's catty remarks on twitter back to the warrior cats forums, to complete the chain it should have gone to a new platform like tumblr or back to youtube, I think?
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 27, 2021 11:59:56 GMT -5
Hey, Moon, if you have a problem with what I say on the forums, how about you PM me about it instead of taking the cowardly route and mocking me on Twitter? This just goes to show that you're not here for any actual debate but prefer being snarky to show your fans how you "owned" me.
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Post by Moon on Sept 27, 2021 12:01:58 GMT -5
Hey, Moon , if you have a problem with what I say on the forums, how about you PM me about it instead of taking the cowardly route and mocking me on Twitter? This just goes to show that you're not here for any actual debate but prefer being snarky to show your fans how you "owned" me. Nah I'll keep screenshotting the forums as long as the forums keep screenshotting other people, and posting them publicly in here to to complain about them. What you did wasn't any different from what I did, especially with how much anxiety this situation caused before I posted about it. I honestly don't see why there aren't rules against doing this sort of thing, this is a public forum, especially when how worked up the forum members got a year ago realizing their threads were being talked about in a discord server.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 27, 2021 12:03:06 GMT -5
So I was just looking around if anyone else from the Warriors community had contacted the official website about the rigged poll and found this on Twitter. They sure love the forums over there. At least Moonkitti also contacted the website about this current bot vote issue. But this is still a strange thing to get catty about. Screenshotting people's jokes on youtube and posting them on the forums to complain vs Screenshotting people's bad takes on the wcrpforums and posting them on twitter to complain vs Screenshotting people's catty remarks on twitter back to the warrior cats forums, to complete the chain it should have gone to a new platform like tumblr or back to youtube, I think? It's not a screenshot though. I literally just linked the tweet on here. But go off, I guess.
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Post by Woofzie on Sept 27, 2021 12:04:45 GMT -5
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 I don't understand why she even sticks around on here if she hates the forums so much. Though, I have some ideas... Honestly I don't blame her? She has received a lot of blacklash from here in the past just for her opinions and takes? There are some insteresting topics on here, so I don't see why couldn't she just lurk without saying a thing-
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 27, 2021 12:05:11 GMT -5
Hey, Moon , if you have a problem with what I say on the forums, how about you PM me about it instead of taking the cowardly route and mocking me on Twitter? This just goes to show that you're not here for any actual debate but prefer being snarky to show your fans how you "owned" me. Nah I'll keep screenshotting the forums as long as the forums keep screenshotting other people, and posting them publicly in here to to complain about them. What you did wasn't any different from what I did, especially with how much anxiety this situation caused before I posted about it. I honestly don't see why there aren't rules against doing this sort of thing, this is a public forum, especially when how worked up the forum members got a year ago realizing their threads were being talked about in a discord server. So there's no difference between screenshoting someone making "joke threats" over a poll and criticizing those jokes and mocking someone on Twitter over criticizing said joke?
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Post by Moon on Sept 27, 2021 12:09:20 GMT -5
Nah I'll keep screenshotting the forums as long as the forums keep screenshotting other people, and posting them publicly in here to to complain about them. What you did wasn't any different from what I did, especially with how much anxiety this situation caused before I posted about it. I honestly don't see why there aren't rules against doing this sort of thing, this is a public forum, especially when how worked up the forum members got a year ago realizing their threads were being talked about in a discord server. So there's no difference between screenshoting someone making "joke threats" over a poll and criticizing those jokes and mocking someone on Twitter over criticizing said joke? Threats to... *looks at notes* threaten? you mistaking the post as serious simply isn't valid. It's not even threatening to do anything. It's nonsense. You didn't even need to screenshot it and post it here, your response to the tweet itself got a reply that cleared up the misunderstanding. Your misunderstanding that you continue to blame on the person you misunderstood.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 27, 2021 12:14:19 GMT -5
So there's no difference between screenshoting someone making "joke threats" over a poll and criticizing those jokes and mocking someone on Twitter over criticizing said joke? Threats to... *looks at notes* threaten? you mistaking the post as serious simply isn't valid. It's not even threatening to do anything. It's nonsense. You didn't even need to screenshot it and post it here, your response to the tweet itself got a reply that cleared up the misunderstanding. Your misunderstanding that you continue to blame on the person you misunderstood. What am I misunderstanding? There are no tone indicators whatsoever to suggest that it's a joke. Unlike you and your posse, I don't have all the facts in my face to know that it's a joke, and I will take what they are saying at face value. And who the hell thinks it's okay to joke about threatening people over their vote in a cat book series? Also, I love how you said on your Twitter that you're done with the forums, yet you keep going on here to screenshot messages. Sounds like you aren't done with this place yet.
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Post by Moon on Sept 27, 2021 12:20:04 GMT -5
Threats to... *looks at notes* threaten? you mistaking the post as serious simply isn't valid. It's not even threatening to do anything. It's nonsense. You didn't even need to screenshot it and post it here, your response to the tweet itself got a reply that cleared up the misunderstanding. Your misunderstanding that you continue to blame on the person you misunderstood. What am I misunderstanding? There are no tone indicators whatsoever to suggest that it's a joke. Unlike you and your posse, I don't have all the facts in my face to know that it's a joke, and I will take what they are saying at face value. And who the hell thinks it's okay to joke about threatening people over their vote in a cat book series? Also, I love how you said on your Twitter that you're done with the forums, yet you keep going on here to screenshot messages. Sounds like you aren't done with this place yet. Look at how you responded to being posted about just once. I'm constantly being gossiped about, publicly, on this forum, as are people I know, and people who have done nothing but make a joke that went over your head. There are no rules in place to prevent it. There is no difference between what you have done and what I have done. This place is a hellhole, and I am done with it, probably permanently when I get my lilo and stitch badness level raised for defending myself later, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to respond when publicly addressed, lol.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 27, 2021 12:22:14 GMT -5
What am I misunderstanding? There are no tone indicators whatsoever to suggest that it's a joke. Unlike you and your posse, I don't have all the facts in my face to know that it's a joke, and I will take what they are saying at face value. And who the hell thinks it's okay to joke about threatening people over their vote in a cat book series? Also, I love how you said on your Twitter that you're done with the forums, yet you keep going on here to screenshot messages. Sounds like you aren't done with this place yet. Look at how you responded to being posted about just once. I'm constantly being gossiped about, publicly, on this forum, as are people I know, and people who have done nothing but make a joke that went over your head. There are no rules in place to prevent it. There is no difference between what you have done and what I have done. This place is a hellhole, and I am done with it, probably permanently when I get my lilo and stitch badness level raised for defending myself later, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to respond when publicly addressed, lol. Your Warrior Cats videos being criticized and discussed on the Warrior Cats forums = gossip now? And stop with the pity party for yourself, no one on here cares what Sand does or doesn't do with your warning level or whatever you call it.
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 27, 2021 12:23:18 GMT -5
Let's stop arguing before this gets locked by Sand.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 27, 2021 12:25:29 GMT -5
What would you want to know about riverstar If he got a SE? We haven't gotten many SE focusing on the ancient clans, so it should be fun (Especially because its on ancient RC). But I wouldn't be too disappointed if Ivy or Misty got the SE instead, We can always get riverstar another time or reply on fanfiction.
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Post by Moon on Sept 27, 2021 12:25:57 GMT -5
Look at how you responded to being posted about just once. I'm constantly being gossiped about, publicly, on this forum, as are people I know, and people who have done nothing but make a joke that went over your head. There are no rules in place to prevent it. There is no difference between what you have done and what I have done. This place is a hellhole, and I am done with it, probably permanently when I get my lilo and stitch badness level raised for defending myself later, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to respond when publicly addressed, lol. Your Warrior Cats videos being criticized and discussed on the Warrior Cats forums = gossip now? And stop with the pity party for yourself, no one on here cares what Sand does or doesn't do with your warning level or whatever you call it. My warrior cats videos constantly being brought up as the source of all evil in the community by people who literally claim they haven't actually watched them and who can't make any points against them but "bias" is gossip, yes.
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