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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 25, 2021 4:23:25 GMT -5
warriorcats.com/content/article/2021-super-edition-character-voteNot only is Riverstar an interesting character, but he's also a part of DoTc which is one of the best series. I've asked all of my friends to vote for him, even friends who don't know Warriors. If you want Riverstar to beat Ivypool I recommend doing the same thing, and perhaps using social media too if you have a following. I wouldn't read an Ivypool SE at all. She's a character we already know everything about, and I've never liked her either.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 25, 2021 4:35:14 GMT -5
I'm also an artist with a few thousand followers so I plan on doing an art raffle that'll require people to vote for Riverstar to enter
Yes, I am that desperate lol
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Post by Mau Furlong on Sept 25, 2021 8:33:57 GMT -5
I wanna see a book about Riverstar too!!
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Post by crowspirit on Sept 25, 2021 9:52:55 GMT -5
Can we call this the “Give Riverstar a Super Edition” movement?
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 25, 2021 9:54:09 GMT -5
Please Erins, give Riverstar a SE instead of Ivypool.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 25, 2021 12:13:30 GMT -5
I also voted for Riverstar but wouldn't mind an Ivypool SE if she becomes deputy or leader by the end of TBC.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 25, 2021 12:53:12 GMT -5
Yes we're the Riverstar SE movement As I'm writing this Riverchad is at 68% Lessgoooo
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Sept 25, 2021 13:19:54 GMT -5
Riverstar is at the lead with 70%, let's go!
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Post by Chicken on Sept 25, 2021 13:26:23 GMT -5
Even though I agree with you, that I want Riverstar to win out over Mistystar and Ivypool, isn't this a bit morally wrong? I mean, there are going to be tons of people voting for a character for a series that they might not even read, over people who genuinely love the books and want to see their favorite win. I understand that you really want Riverstar to win, I do too, but it kind of feels like when people use their presence to sway the vote, it makes it unfair for the people who would rather have Mistystar or Ivypool.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 25, 2021 14:26:47 GMT -5
Even though I agree with you, that I want Riverstar to win out over Mistystar and Ivypool, isn't this a bit morally wrong? I mean, there are going to be tons of people voting for a character for a series that they might not even read, over people who genuinely love the books and want to see their favorite win. I understand that you really want Riverstar to win, I do too, but it kind of feels like when people use their presence to sway the vote, it makes it unfair for the people who would rather have Mistystar or Ivypool. I kinda agree. Like there's nothing in the rules against it, but morally it rubs the wrong way...
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 25, 2021 14:42:46 GMT -5
I agree with Chicken and Maple- legally there's nothing wrong with it, but people using their online presence to try and sway the vote does weird me out a bit. I feel like people should be able to vote for who they like, not because someone with influence gently pressured them into voting for them. It just rubs me the wrong way.
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Post by rabbit on Sept 25, 2021 14:52:15 GMT -5
Even though I agree with you, that I want Riverstar to win out over Mistystar and Ivypool, isn't this a bit morally wrong? I mean, there are going to be tons of people voting for a character for a series that they might not even read, over people who genuinely love the books and want to see their favorite win. I understand that you really want Riverstar to win, I do too, but it kind of feels like when people use their presence to sway the vote, it makes it unfair for the people who would rather have Mistystar or Ivypool. You not wrong. With voting contests like these brigading and massive amounts of salt is not unexpected. I’m sure if someone really wants their character to win they could just make a bunch of bots vote for their favorite. I would laugh if someone actually did that.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 25, 2021 15:06:27 GMT -5
Even though I agree with you, that I want Riverstar to win out over Mistystar and Ivypool, isn't this a bit morally wrong? I mean, there are going to be tons of people voting for a character for a series that they might not even read, over people who genuinely love the books and want to see their favorite win. I understand that you really want Riverstar to win, I do too, but it kind of feels like when people use their presence to sway the vote, it makes it unfair for the people who would rather have Mistystar or Ivypool. You not wrong. With voting contests like these brigading and massive amounts of salt is not unexpected. I’m sure if someone really wants their character to win they could just make a bunch of bots vote for their favorite. I would laugh if someone actually did that. Considering how drastically the votes jumped over night, and how much faster the pace change is compared to yesterday, there's already a possibility that there's bots. Also bnf using their influence to sway votes as well is already happening on bigger platforms like youtube and twitter, etc. We still have until the end of October but at the same time I have little faith in any actual changes in the poll at this point if things are going this far on only day 2.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 25, 2021 15:21:56 GMT -5
You not wrong. With voting contests like these brigading and massive amounts of salt is not unexpected. I’m sure if someone really wants their character to win they could just make a bunch of bots vote for their favorite. I would laugh if someone actually did that. Considering how drastically the votes jumped over night, and how much faster the pace change is compared to yesterday, there's already a possibility that there's bots. Also bnf using their influence to sway votes as well is already happening on bigger platforms like youtube and twitter, etc. We still have until the end of October but at the same time I have little faith in any actual changes in the poll at this point if things are going this far on only day 2.Yep, the moment I opened YT today one of the first videos I saw in my recommendations was literally titled "Vote For River(star)".
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 25, 2021 15:26:33 GMT -5
You not wrong. With voting contests like these brigading and massive amounts of salt is not unexpected. I’m sure if someone really wants their character to win they could just make a bunch of bots vote for their favorite. I would laugh if someone actually did that. Considering how drastically the votes jumped over night, and how much faster the pace change is compared to yesterday, there's already a possibility that there's bots. Also bnf using their influence to sway votes as well is already happening on bigger platforms like youtube and twitter, etc. We still have until the end of October but at the same time I have little faith in any actual changes in the poll at this point if things are going this far on only day 2.To be fair this is a public poll on a public website so any security is basically meaningless.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 25, 2021 17:35:05 GMT -5
Normally I'd agree
Except the real problem is that a Ivypool and Mistystar SE would be such a pointless waste of an SE
They'd be as bad as Tigerheart, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's SEs
So I think it's important not to have a repeat of those bad pointless SEs
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Post by kells on Sept 25, 2021 18:01:58 GMT -5
Normally I'd agree Except the real problem is that a Ivypool and Mistystar SE would be such a pointless waste of an SE They'd be as bad as Tigerheart, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's SEs So I think it's important not to have a repeat of those bad pointless SEs I get where you're coming from, but that's still a personalized perspective. Many people actually liked those SEs and don't see them as pointless Maybe Ivy and Misty will suck, for us, but they're fan favorites and tons of ppl will still be happy to read them. It isnt fair to use raffles as a mean to tip the odds, especially if some of them are really looking forward to their vote having a chance, or better yet, the raffle entries don't even want to vote Riverstar, but do it for the sake of art
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Post by Pixie on Sept 25, 2021 18:26:55 GMT -5
Ivypool super edition? Is this a sign that she's gonna be the next ThunderClan leader?
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 25, 2021 18:27:25 GMT -5
Others are free to do their own thing to get votes for Ivypool, campaigning for votes is pretty normal
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Post by Cloudstorm on Sept 25, 2021 18:52:31 GMT -5
Normally I'd agree Except the real problem is that a Ivypool and Mistystar SE would be such a pointless waste of an SE They'd be as bad as Tigerheart, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's SEs So I think it's important not to have a repeat of those bad pointless SEs I agree a Mistystar or Ivypool SE would probably be Pointless , Unless Ivypool does become Leader of thunderclan . I also really doubt there Gonna make a SE During the Past weather Riverstar wins the Vote in the poll or not . Since we literally just got one with leopardstars Honor , and the fact the Erins love to Follow patterns its seems. In regards to SE it seems there’s 3 General categories they fall into on a rotation Bases 1. Bridge Books, that fill gaps between Arcs( ie firestars Quest, Bramblestars storm, Squirrelflights Hope etc) 2. Books that Expand upon a certain Subplot set During the time of the current Arc(Tigerhearts Shadow, Graystripes vow) 3. Books that expand on an important character, that usually the plot has some degree of relevance to the Present time (Bluestars Prophecy,yellowfangs secret , tallstars revenge , moth flights vision etc) And since Graystripes Vow was set During TBC , and Leopardstars Honor was a blast from the past . It’s make more sense in my opinion Logically for the next SE to be Bridge Book between TBC and ASC . And with already knowing ASC protagonist is a Riverclan Cat , then I’m betting on it being a Mistystar SE , unless of course Bramblestar/squirrelflight both die or retire with TBC conclusion in ALiTM and Ivypool becomes leader . Then it becomes a coin toss on who they decide to write about . I personally did vote for Riverstar , but it’s my personal Opinion that they’ve already made there decision on whom the SE is Gonna Be about , and are just running the Poll to keep a good standing/reputation with the Fans , and Make an impression that they actually care about are opinions . Of course that’s only my opinion and take it with a Grain of Salt . I Haven’t voted on a poll on there website in some…. 10+ Odd years so I don’t have much Say on how trustworthy the Erins or HC are , with Following through with what the fans vote for (though to my recollection , can’t say I remember them keeping there words ever Except for when they asked us back in 2005 if we wanted Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw Paired together,,,, but considering the Erins themselves laser rooting for them back during TNP , they probably would of made it happen regardless of weather we wanted it or not . So not going to count that.) . But we’ll just have to wait and keep our Fingers crossed . Who knows maybe they’ll Surprise us ( in a good way for change ). but knowing how big corporations Operate , highly Doubt it .
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 25, 2021 19:01:47 GMT -5
I don't think I'll actually buy a Ivypool or a Mistystar SE. If it was a novella or something, maybe. But a SE? That thing has a few hundred pages, and Leopardstar's had more than five hundred. I couldn't read about them for that long even if someone paid me. I really don't understand why people want a SE for Ivypool or Mistystar but ohh I just really hope Riverstar wins +Wait a sec why's Ivypool votes only 14% and Riverstar 82%? And poor Mistystar she got 3% But this is really weird
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 25, 2021 19:38:55 GMT -5
Others are free to do their own thing to get votes for Ivypool, campaigning for votes is pretty normal Others don’t have thousands of followers having to vote for a character that alot of them probably don’t even know to be put into an art raffle. So now it doesn’t even feel like a fair vote, it feels like a ton of people who have 0 interest in the series are now swaying the votes away from what the actual readers would have voted for. This is a big reason I get so iffy around popular content creators. Because they do things like this to sway everything. I don’t care if either Ivypool or Riverstar won this, but it now feels like such a dirty poll that it kind of disappoints me.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 25, 2021 20:32:36 GMT -5
+Wait a sec why's Ivypool votes only 14% and Riverstar 82%? And poor Mistystar she got 3% But this is really weird It's because the poll is now overwhelmingly influenced now. :/ Either it's bots and/or bnf influencing and swaying votes. Even if people made this into a fair poll again, it wouldn't matter because Riverstar now has a overwhelming lead, regardless of the next month or so I doubt the results will change much. It makes me disappointed because now people are just voiding the poll of any fun.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 25, 2021 21:14:54 GMT -5
I think it's worth noting that I haven't even made the raffle yet so the reason why he's currently winning has nothing to do with me "unfairly swaying the vote"
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 25, 2021 22:01:53 GMT -5
Normally I'd agree Except the real problem is that a Ivypool and Mistystar SE would be such a pointless waste of an SE They'd be as bad as Tigerheart, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's SEs So I think it's important not to have a repeat of those bad pointless SEs Problem is, that's just your perspective. Some people won't find it to be pointless and won't be happy to find out that more influential people are trying to sway the vote over an opinion they consider to be right.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 25, 2021 22:17:47 GMT -5
I think it's worth noting that I haven't even made the raffle yet so the reason why he's currently winning has nothing to do with me "unfairly swaying the vote" But that was your literal plan either way. It’s your intention, and it takes the fun out of any poll when random people who know nothing about the series at all flood polls and dictate the results. If Mistystar was the cat being flooded with unrealistic votes in such a short amount of time, would that not be bothersome? So now actual fans who might have wanted Mistystar or Ivypool to have a chance have to compete with random non-fan adults. What’s the point of fair polls if people like you do things like this every single time? I’m fine with Riverstar winning. I’m not fine with him winning in such a snake-like way :/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 22:27:04 GMT -5
Yes we're the Riverstar SE movement As I'm writing this Riverchad is at 68% LessgooooDababy who?
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Post by crowspirit on Sept 26, 2021 4:38:07 GMT -5
I really want a Riverstar Super Edition, but if they're really using bots to vote for him now I'm kinda disappointed. I wanted him to win fair and square, not with such dirty tactics.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Sept 26, 2021 6:32:10 GMT -5
There's zero proof of people using bots, it's more likely that Riverstar fans are putting in more effort into getting votes for him, which is how polls work in real life
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