#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 24, 2021 19:49:27 GMT -5
Here is the current results as of 1:00 AM UTC:
1st place: Ivypool, 52%
2nd place: Riverstar, 40%
3rd place: Mistystar, 8%
Next update is at 2:30 AM UTC
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Sept 24, 2021 19:50:25 GMT -5
Why tf are people voting Ivypool???
I like her an all, but she had a whole ass POV for an arc. She doesn't need a SE.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 24, 2021 19:53:13 GMT -5
Why tf are people voting Ivypool??? I like her an all, but she had a whole ass POV for an arc. She doesn't need a SE. Riverstar was in the lead in the early voting stages, let's hope he wins the poll. Honestly, if Ivypool wins, we might see some more Dark Forest scenes, depends on when the SE is set.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 24, 2021 20:27:24 GMT -5
im convinced people r only voting for ivy because she's a fandom darling and she's popular...like why else would they vote for her? surely anyone knows ivypool doesnt NEED extra content, especially not an SE which is hundreds of pages long!
like me....i love jayfeather a lot, but u would NEVER see me say i want him to get an SE. as much as i love jayfeather, i know he doesnt need extra content on him. he's been a protag for 2 arcs in a row, and has had big cameos since then too.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 24, 2021 20:28:37 GMT -5
Right, because it's not like we didn't get enough of her time in the Dark Forest already. Seriously though, an Ivypool SE regarding her and the DF would honestly be pretty pointless given we already have OotS for that and it's unlikely she'll ever go back there, at least willingly. Actually, an SE about her at all would be pointless. Riverstar makes sense, even Mistystar makes sense. What could we possibly get that they wouldn't be able to cover in a novella?
The only way I'd see myself possibly getting invested is if she became deputy or leader after TBC, something Kate has already expressed she likes the idea of, but I'm not sure about Cherith, since she's the one who'll be writing the next one if the pattern stays consistent, so that may affect how well the book will be written. And if nothing else, all I hope is that this book will actually make me like Ivypool if she gets it, similar to what GV and TPoNS did for Graystripe.
Also, seeing the results is giving me lowkey anxiety, but I'm unfortunately the type of person who clicks on every new topic, otherwise it'll just bother me all day.
Please, please let it be Riverstar!
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 24, 2021 20:38:52 GMT -5
im convinced people r only voting for ivy because she's a fandom darling and she's popular...like why else would they vote for her? surely anyone knows ivypool doesnt NEED extra content, especially not an SE which is hundreds of pages long! like me....i love jayfeather a lot, but u would NEVER see me say i want him to get an SE. as much as i love jayfeather, i know he doesnt need extra content on him. he's been a protag for 2 arcs in a row, and has had big cameos since then too. This is most likely the case, at least for most of the fandom, but especially if they're on the younger side. Had Ivypool just been a supporting character with no PoV at all during OotS, then I'd get it, but she's already been pretty significant and that hasn't really ever stopped, either. A novella, sure, especially if it's about her relationship with Fernsong. That'd be really cute! But an entire SE? Again, I can't really think of anything that's left to tell, unless she ends up becoming deputy or even leader of ThunderClan after TBC and it's about that.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 24, 2021 20:42:50 GMT -5
Or you know people want post TBC content and the possibility of Ivypool becoming deputy? Honestly, I love Riverstar as much as the next person but at the same time I fear the idea of the Erins possibly ruining him. At least they were consistent with Ivypool, even if she didn't get extra content outside of her POV, like an SE and Novella. EDIT: Also I'm not personally big on the whole idea of her having a novella just to focus on her relationship with Fernsong. I like FernIvy and Fernsong but I don't want the Erins to just make Ivypool revolve around her romance like they did Dove.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 24, 2021 20:44:45 GMT -5
Or you know people want post TBC content and the possibility of Ivypool becoming deputy? Honestly, I love Riverstar as much as the next person but at the same time I fear the idea of the Erins possibly ruining him. At least they were consistent with Ivypool, even if she didn't get extra content outside of her POV, like an SE and Novella. my personal opinion: i dont want ivypool in any kind of leadership role whatsoever. but even then, why do they need a whole SE to show her as deputy/leader material? do that in the actual main series books? what even has she done in all of TBC? i dont remember her doing much.
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Post by rainwhisker on Sept 24, 2021 20:47:02 GMT -5
ivypool is a cool character and i like her but riverstar needs to win i swear. hes just so interesting and we didnt get to see nearly as much as id like of him. we also never got to see his pov im pretty sure while with ivypool we got multiple books. also not even sure why mistystar is up on the poll since she already has her novella and im not sure what else you could write about her?? like idk man the only chance i can see a mistystar super edition working is if she finally dies at the end
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Post by Chicken on Sept 24, 2021 20:48:27 GMT -5
I'm not thrilled about this, but I hope if Ivypool does win, it takes place during that 18 moon gap between Bramblestar's Storm and AVOS, that's pretty much the only part of her life we haven't seen, as she's always been in the main protagonist clan in the main series. If her SE takes place during that time period, we could learn more about these baseless background characters like Hollytuft, Sorrelstripe, Fernsong, etc, and we also might get to see more of Snowbush since Ivypool was his mentor, and her mentorship with him. Whatever happens, I hope it's not all about Tiger x Dove and I hope The Sisters don't make an appearance.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 24, 2021 20:57:51 GMT -5
Or you know people want post TBC content and the possibility of Ivypool becoming deputy? Honestly, I love Riverstar as much as the next person but at the same time I fear the idea of the Erins possibly ruining him. At least they were consistent with Ivypool, even if she didn't get extra content outside of her POV, like an SE and Novella. my personal opinion: i dont wany ivypool in any kind of leadership role whatsoever. but even then, why do they need a whole SE to show her as deputy/leader material? do that in the actual main series books? what even has she done in all of TBC? i dont remember her doing much. An SE is plenty enough time to get rid of quite a few TPB, TNP and POT characters out of the spotlight finally while pushing for the younger generation to take over. Something I don't think can be covered in just a novella, and something I'd rather them NOT focus on in the next series. Because we'll just have another TBC situation where the narrative is taken away from the new main characters. It's better to have TC get it's crap together now in an SE over them dragging it into another series and taking away the focus from the new developing characters. Root, Shadow and Bristle are perfect examples and reasons why the first three gens need to be pushed out of the narrative in the main series. Imo, it doesn't matter how much she's done so far in TBC, it's about where she sits position wise. Ivypool is a character that's perfectly in the middle of the generation gaps, where she's not too old or too young to be deputy and potentially leader. On top of that, because of her previous role as a protagonist she could be used as a narrative gateway for younger characters getting more development and focus down the road. Her story would have a lot of potential to tell just from the cats connected to her alone. Both her grandparents are old and retired, and have potential death flags. We don't know the status of Birch and White's relationship, especially after the whole Birch being a trainee, and disowned by Dustpelt after Ferncloud's death. They were all affected by Dovewing betraying them and going to ShadowClan. There's also Flipclaw, who is already unsure about where he stands in his life, at such a young age too. Thriftear who has a strained relationship with her sister, and then Bristlefrost who is struggling with her heart and loyalties because of her feelings for Rootspring. Like she has a lot of other potential relationship focus outside of her romance with Fernsong. In AVoS and TBC, as I already said, Ivypool's voice has weight among her clanmates, and she is well respected. She voiced her word about the clan using vital resources and time to help Twig, she led search patrols to find Dove, she also was one of the few cats the had a significant point about Squirrel's disappearance. And the private moment she had with Bristlefrost, over her choices and what she wanted was notable growth for her character, but also good guidance for Bristlefrost when she needed. I'd rather Ivypool have a hand in shaping ThunderClan's future in and SE over her possibly suffocating the plot later down the line in the main series like Squirrel/Bramble/Ash are doing now.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 24, 2021 21:00:28 GMT -5
my personal opinion: i dont wany ivypool in any kind of leadership role whatsoever. but even then, why do they need a whole SE to show her as deputy/leader material? do that in the actual main series books? what even has she done in all of TBC? i dont remember her doing much. An SE is plenty enough time to get rid of quite a few TPB, TNP and POT characters out of the spotlight finally while pushing for the younger generation to take over. Something I don't think can be covered in just a novella, and something I'd rather them NOT focus on in the next series. Because we'll just have another TBC situation where the narrative is taken away from the new main characters. It's better to have TC get it's crap together now in an SE over them dragging it into another series and taking away the focus from the new developing characters. Root, Shadow and Bristle are perfect examples and reasons why the first three gens need to be pushed out of the narrative in the main series. Also it doesn't matter how much she's done so far in TBC, it's about where she sits position wise. Ivypool is a character that's perfectly in the middle of the generation gaps, where she's not too old or too young to be deputy and potentially leader. On top of that, because of her previous role as a protagonist she could be used as a narrative gateway for younger characters getting more development and focus down the road. Her story would have a lot of potential to tell just from the cats connected to her alone. Both her parents are old and retired, and have potential death flags. We don't know the status of Birch and White's relationship, especially after the whole Birch being a trainee, and disowned by Dustpelt after Ferncloud's death. They were all affected by Dovewing betraying them and going to ShadowClan. There's also Flipclaw, who is already unsure about where he stands in his life, at such a young age too. Thriftear who has a strained relationship with her sister, and then Bristlefrost who is struggling with her heart and loyalties because of her feelings for Rootspring. Like she has a lot of other potential relationship focus outside of her romance with Fernsong. In AVoS and TBC, as I already said, Ivypool's voice has weight among her clanmates, and she is well respected. She voiced her word about the clan using vital resources and time to help Twig, she led search patrols to find Dove, she also was one of the few cats the had a significant point about Squirrel's disappearance. And the private moment she had with Bristlefrost, over her choices and what she wanted was notable growth for her character, but also good guidance for Bristlefrost when she needed. I'd rather Ivypool have a hand in shaping ThunderClan's future in and SE over her possibly suffocating the plot later down the line in the main series like Squirrel/Bramble/Ash are doing now. i see ur points, but i'll still agree to disagree because im pretty stubborn about not wanting ivy anywhere near leadership.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 24, 2021 21:06:19 GMT -5
Like I know some people aren't fond of the idea of Ivypool being leader, but another way to look at it is definitely her being a gateway for younger cats finally stepping into higher positions in ThunderClan. If that still doesn't appeal to people, that's fine too. I just personally want TC to move on from this "era" and I do think our best bet is with Ivypool, and hopefully, she chooses a younger cat as a deputy. *eyes Harestar*
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Post by rabbit on Sept 24, 2021 21:06:35 GMT -5
I prefer Ivy or Misty over River, simply because I don’t really care to revisit the DotC characters. I guess a novella would be ok, but not 700 pages. So this is good news for me?
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 24, 2021 21:20:10 GMT -5
Or you know people want post TBC content and the possibility of Ivypool becoming deputy? Honestly, I love Riverstar as much as the next person but at the same time I fear the idea of the Erins possibly ruining him. At least they were consistent with Ivypool, even if she didn't get extra content outside of her POV, like an SE and Novella. my personal opinion: i dont wany ivypool in any kind of leadership role whatsoever. but even then, why do they need a whole SE to show her as deputy/leader material? do that in the actual main series books? what even has she done in all of TBC? i dont remember her doing much. Ivypool's most significant moments in TBC are when she talks with Bristlefrost about her feelings for Rootspring and also when she's telling her daughter how to get into the Dark Forest, both of which only happened in the last book. Other than that, she's been largely in the background, unless ALiTM changes that. And all of this is assuming Bramblestar and/or Squirrelflight even die or at least retire at the end of TBC at all. She's clearly respected by her Clanmates and Kate has said once before how she likes the idea of Ivypool being leader one day, but I'm just not sure what kind of story there is to tell that'll last thirty chapters or so and it looks like there's only a pretty small gap between the end of TBC and the start of ASC, which would again bring into question why this is necessary, so then that just leaves that eighteen moon gap between BrS and AVoS, which again makes me question what kind of story there would be to tell that a novella wouldn't cover. Yeah, if Ivypool wins, I'm just going to be more confused than anything.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2021 21:38:17 GMT -5
I’d be happy for an Ivypool SE that hopefully leads to her being leader. I hope she gets the chance to kick Tigerstar’s ass at least once. I also would love to see her POV regarding her daughter’s role in TBC, as well as some cute IvyFern moments. Ivypool is one of my favorites, so I wouldn’t be bothered if she won. While I voted Riverstar for other fans sakes since I never read DoTC and never really will, I’m cool with either him or Ivypool winning.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 24, 2021 21:42:36 GMT -5
Here is the current results as of 1:00 AM UTC: 1st place: Ivypool, 52% 2nd place: Riverstar, 40% 3rd place: Mistystar, 8%
Next update is at 2:30 AM UTC
(Sorry I was late on this.) Update as of 2:40 AM UTC:
1st place: Ivypool, 53% 2nd place: Riverstar, 39% 3rd place: Mistystar, 8%
Next update is at 6:00 PM UTC
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 24, 2021 21:44:04 GMT -5
I’d be happy for an Ivypool SE that hopefully leads to her being leader. I hope she gets the chance to kick Tigerstar’s ass at least once. I also would love to see her POV regarding her daughter’s role in TBC, as well as some cute IvyFern moments. Ivypool is one of my favorites, so I wouldn’t be bothered if she won. While I voted Riverstar for other fans sakes since I never read DoTC and never really will, I’m cool with either him or Ivypool winning. River is definitely a lovely character, 100% he's like in my top ten cats, and he's my second fav DotC cat, while Gray Wing is my first, and Shattered Ice rolls in at third. But like if I had to gamble with the possibility of getting hopeful TC change for once, vs the possibility of Kate and the editors "ruining" Riverstar, I'm going to take my chances with the first, ya know?
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 24, 2021 21:46:14 GMT -5
Here is the current results as of 1:00 AM UTC: 1st place: Ivypool, 52% 2nd place: Riverstar, 40% 3rd place: Mistystar, 8%
Next update is at 2:30 AM UTC
(Sorry I was late on this.) Update as of 2:40 AM UTC:
1st place: Ivypool, 53% 2nd place: Riverstar, 39% 3rd place: Mistystar, 8%
Next update is at 6:00 PM UTC
I had to fix it.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2021 21:46:29 GMT -5
I’d be happy for an Ivypool SE that hopefully leads to her being leader. I hope she gets the chance to kick Tigerstar’s ass at least once. I also would love to see her POV regarding her daughter’s role in TBC, as well as some cute IvyFern moments. Ivypool is one of my favorites, so I wouldn’t be bothered if she won. While I voted Riverstar for other fans sakes since I never read DoTC and never really will, I’m cool with either him or Ivypool winning. River is definitely a lovely character, 100% he's like in my top ten cats, and he's my second fav DotC cat, while Gray Wing is my first, and Shattered Ice rolls in at third. But like if I had to gamble with the possibility of getting hopeful TC change for once, vs the possibility of Kate and the editors "ruining" Riverstar, I'm going to take my chances with the first, ya know? I agree. I think in relation to the current arcs, having the SE be for a modern cat might fit the timeline best. Either way, I think I’ll be content.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 21:52:09 GMT -5
I hope they go with Riverstar anyway. I'd rather Ivy get a novella or one of those stand alone mangas. She doesn't really need a whole SE
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 24, 2021 22:06:40 GMT -5
mistystar already had a novella, Ivypool had a whole arc of POV. can we please have someone who actually NEEDS development.
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 24, 2021 22:45:28 GMT -5
Kind of lame options just like last time, except Riverstar's. I've wanted him to get a book for ages. I hope he beats out Ivypool. I'd be interested in an Ivypool book sometime, just not when a Riverstar SE might become reality.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Sept 24, 2021 22:49:44 GMT -5
I can't believe we're (most likely) getting another Ivypool pov over Riverstar. Oh well, hopefully there will be some pretty cute moments with Fernsong and their kits.
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Post by Snowfire on Sept 24, 2021 22:56:27 GMT -5
Do you think we'll finally learn about Mistystar's immortality?
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Post by crowspirit on Sept 25, 2021 0:19:59 GMT -5
Since Ivypool was included in poll, the editors must have an idea for a book about her. I have a feeling she's going to be deputy or leader and that's what the book is going to be about.
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Post by Rainfire on Sept 25, 2021 0:56:18 GMT -5
oh wow I severely underestimated Ivypool's chances for winning this
And the poll doesn't even close until the last day of October. It's gonna be interesting seeing this play out >:3
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Sept 25, 2021 1:44:53 GMT -5
Why tf is Ivypool in the poll? She's all ready had spotlight during two entire arcs and now a bit during TBC. What else needs to be covered? I swear if it's a SE about her becoming leader, i'm going to throw hands. If they made such mess around Firekin being leaders only for the conflict to be disregarded later, it's going to be such huge fanservice. Riverstar better win. Ivypool DOSEN'T need thirty-chapters of more spotlight!
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 25, 2021 1:53:42 GMT -5
I won't even read the SE if it's an Ivypool one.
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