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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 18:19:35 GMT -5
Some birth orders of litters are already known like - Leafpool and then Squirrelflight Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, and then Jayfeather Oakheart and then Crookedstar Finchpaw, Flamepaw, and then Flickerpaw. Etc.
Yet, there are some that aren't known, like Feathertail and Stormfur, Bramblestar and Tawnypelt, Ivypool and Dovewing, Twigbranch and Violetshine, etc.
What are your headcanons for the birth orders of the litters that we don't know the birth order of?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 23, 2021 18:26:43 GMT -5
got some random ones!
feathertail, stormfur
ivypool, dovewing
dawnpelt, tigerheart, flametail
violetshine, twigbranch
rainwhisker, sorreltail, sootfur
brightheart, brackenfur, cinderpelt, thornclaw
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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 18:30:14 GMT -5
got some random ones! feathertail, stormfur ivypool, dovewing dawnpelt, tigerheart, flametail violetshine, twigbranch rainwhisker, sorreltail, sootfur brightheart, brackenfur, cinderpelt, thornclaw Those are cool! I agree about Ivypool being the first born, it makes sense to me. 1. Hollyleaf - a first born, she didn't have any special abilities 2. Pouncestep/Lightleap - a first born, she had no special abilities, but neither did the last born, so maybe it doesn't count lol. I like your birth order of Tawnypelt's kits too, it's like a parallel to Leafpool's kits. The daughter is the oldest, the buff fighting son is the second born, and the medicine cat son is the last born XD.
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Post by dreamingof on Sept 23, 2021 18:58:41 GMT -5
I always assumeed that birth order was based off the order the kits are given their apprentice name or the apprentices are given their warrior names by the leader.
Here are some of my headcanons:
Cinderpelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart, Thornclaw Feathertail, Stormfur Bramblestar, Tawnypelt Tigerheart, Dawnpelt, Flametail Dovewing, Ivypool Twigbranch, Violetshine Bristlefrost, Thriftear, Flipclaw Needleclaw, Rootspring
I remember the time where most people headcanoned Squirrelflight to be older than Leafpool before the COTC passage was considered canon enough. I also used to headcanon that Lionblaze and Hollyleaf's birth order was swapped before Leafpool's Wish came out.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 19:05:22 GMT -5
I always assumeed that birth order was based off the order the kits are given their apprentice name or the apprentices are given their warrior names by the leader. Here are some of my headcanons: Cinderpelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart, Thornclaw Feathertail, Stormfur Bramblestar, Tawnypelt Tigerheart, Dawnpelt, Flametail Dovewing, Ivypool Twigbranch, Violetshine Bristlefrost, Thriftear, Flipclaw Needleclaw, Rootspring I remember the time where most people headcanoned Squirrelflight to be older than Leafpool before the COTC passage was considered canon enough. I also used to headcanon that Lionblaze and Hollyleaf's birth order was swapped before Leafpool's Wish came out. That makes a lot of sense! Do you think that could be the case with how kits are announced after they're born? Like Blossomfall's kits were introduced as Stemkit, Eaglekit, Plumkit, and Shellkit and Berryheart's were introduced as Hollowkit, Sunkit, and Spirekit, though that one confuses me, Spire was a pure black cat, just like Hollowspring, and if he was the first born, why didn't they name him Spire? Unless they already had the names Hollow and Sun picked out before hand or something.
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Post by kells on Sept 23, 2021 19:43:06 GMT -5
Oh, Jayfeather was born after Lionblaze? I thought Lion was the last
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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 21:19:18 GMT -5
Oh, Jayfeather was born after Lionblaze? I thought Lion was the last Yeah! It's easy for me to remember, because Lionblaze was the second one that got stuck. Oh, it's also interesting that you thought Lionblaze was the youngest, from what I've seen, the people who weren't sure of their birth order, thought he was the oldest lol.
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Post by kells on Sept 23, 2021 21:55:23 GMT -5
Oh, Jayfeather was born after Lionblaze? I thought Lion was the last Yeah! It's easy for me to remember, because Lionblaze was the second one that got stuck. Oh, it's also interesting that you thought Lionblaze was the youngest, from what I've seen, the people who weren't sure of their birth order, thought he was the oldest lol. I thought that Lionblaze was the one Leafpool was having trouble with, and once he was born it was over since Squirrelflight was relieved afterward
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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 22:04:18 GMT -5
Yeah! It's easy for me to remember, because Lionblaze was the second one that got stuck. Oh, it's also interesting that you thought Lionblaze was the youngest, from what I've seen, the people who weren't sure of their birth order, thought he was the oldest lol. I thought that Lionblaze was the one Leafpool was having trouble with, and once he was born it was over since Squirrelflight was relieved afterward That makes sense, I can see the confusion, or maybe I'm the one who is confused lol.
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Post by kells on Sept 23, 2021 22:05:19 GMT -5
I thought that Lionblaze was the one Leafpool was having trouble with, and once he was born it was over since Squirrelflight was relieved afterward That makes sense, I can see the confusion, or maybe I'm the one who is confused lol. Its probably me lol I'm terrible at recalling events from older books
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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 22:08:12 GMT -5
That makes sense, I can see the confusion, or maybe I'm the one who is confused lol. Its probably me lol I'm terrible at recalling events from older books Lol. I just looked it up, it said "The first kit comes out easily, but the second kit has trouble because it has such broad shoulders. The spirit of Yellowfang comes to help, and they manage to get the kit out. Then the last kit is delivered, a gray tabby"
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Post by kells on Sept 23, 2021 22:34:04 GMT -5
Its probably me lol I'm terrible at recalling events from older books Lol. I just looked it up, it said "The first kit comes out easily, but the second kit has trouble because it has such broad shoulders. The spirit of Yellowfang comes to help, and they manage to get the kit out. Then the last kit is delivered, a gray tabby" Yep, I'm terrible at recalling older scenes I really need to reread the series sometime. The amount of books to go through is so daunting though agh
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Post by Chicken on Sept 23, 2021 22:48:48 GMT -5
Lol. I just looked it up, it said "The first kit comes out easily, but the second kit has trouble because it has such broad shoulders. The spirit of Yellowfang comes to help, and they manage to get the kit out. Then the last kit is delivered, a gray tabby" Yep, I'm terrible at recalling older scenes I really need to reread the series sometime. The amount of books to go through is so daunting though agh Agreed! Though, it might be like with movies, there's a movie I saw four times, and each time I re-watched it, I noticed something I had missed or misunderstood on the previous watching(s).
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 24, 2021 9:11:06 GMT -5
Here are my headcanons. I don't remember much from birth orders in Warriors, so I may headcanon thinks that are already stated in the books. I'm trying not to.
Tawnypelt's and Rowanstar's kits: Flametail - Dawnpelt - Tigerheart
Frostfur's an Lionheart's kits: Thornclaw - Cinderpelt - Brightheart - Brackenfur
Tigerstar's and Goldenflower's kits: Bramblestar - Tawnypelt
Tigerstar's and Sasha's: Hawkfrost - Tadpole - Mothwing
Stormfur's and Brook's kits (first litter): Lark That Sings at Dawn - Pine That Clings to Rock
Stormfur's and Brook's kits (second litter): Feather of Flying Hawk - Breeze That Rustles the Leaves
Lionblaze's and Cinderheart's kits (first litter): Hollytuft - Sorrelstripe - Fernsong
Lionblaze's and Cinderheart's kits (second litter): Spotfur - Snaptooth - Flywhisker
Gray Wing's and Slate's kits: White Tail - Black Ear - Silver Stripe
Turtle Tail's and Tom's kits: Sparrow Fur - Owl Eyes - Pebble Heart
Clear Sky's and Star Flower's kits: Flower Foot - Tiny Branch - Dew Petal
Thunder's and Violet Dawn's kits: Sleek Fur - Shell Claw - Lightning Stripe - Feather Ear
Wind Runner's and Gorse Fur's kits: Dust Muzzle - Emberkit - Moth Flight - Morning Whisker
Jagged Peak's and Holly's kits: Eagle Feather - Dew Nose - Storm Pelt
Violetshine's and Tree's kits: Needleclaw - Rootspring
Leafstar's and Billystorm's kits: Firefern - Harrybrook - Stormheart
Mapleshade's and Appledusk's kits: Larchkit - Petalkit - Patchkit
Sharpclaw's and Cherrytail's kits: Hawkwing - Cloudmist - Duskpaw - Blossomheart
Jake's and Quince's kits: Ruby - Socks - Scourge
Jake's and Nutmeg's kits: Firestar - Luna - Tommy - Princess - Filou
Moth Flight's and Micah's kits: Honey Pelt - Blue Whisker - Bubbling Stream - Spider Paw
Hawkwing's and Pebbleshine's kits: Twigbranch - Violetshine
Breezepelt's and Heathertail's kits (first litter): Smokehaze - Brindlewing
Breezepelt's and Heathertail's kits (second litter): Woodsong - Appleshine
Moonlight's and Root's kits: Tree - Ice - Sunrise
Moonlight's and Jack's kits: Moon - Squirrel - Leaf
Mistystar's and Blackclaw's kits: Primrosepaw - Perchkit - Reedwhisker - Pikepaw
Daisy's and Smoky's kits: Mousewhisker - Berrynose - Hazeltail
Brindleface's kits: Tulipkit - Ferncloud - Ashfur - Elderkit
Ferncloud's and Dustpelt's kits (first litter): Spiderleg - Shrewpaw
Ferncloud's and Dustpelt's kits (second litter): Hollykit - Larchkit - Birchfall
Ferncloud's and Dustpelt's kits (third litter): Icecloud - Foxleap
Speckletail's and Smallear's kits (first litter): Lionheart - Goldenflower
Speckletail's and Smallear's kits (second litter): Snowkit - Mistlekit
One-eye's and Halftail's kits: Mousefur - Runningwind
Patchpelt's and Goldenflower's kits: Lyxnkit - Swiftpaw
Windflight's and Rainfur's kits: Tawnyspots - Dappletail - Thrushpelt
Windflight's and Poppydawn's kits: Sweetpaw - Rosetail - Thistleclaw
Flamenose's and Larksong's kits: Featherwhisker - Sunstar
Robinwing's and Fuzzypelt's kits (first litter): Cherrypaw - Chestnutkit
Robinwing's and Fuzzypelt's kits (second litter): Frostfur - Brindleface
Robinwing's and Fuzzypelt's kits (third litter): Ravenpaw - Dustpelt
Pinestar's and Leopardfoot's kits: Nightkit - Tigerstar - Mistkit
Firestar's and Sandstorm's kits: Leafpool - Squirrelflight
Leafpool's and Crowfeather's kits: Hollyleaf - Jayfeather - Lionblaze
Willowpelt's and Whitestorm's kits: Sootfur - Sorreltail - Rainwhisker
Snowbird's and Scorchfur's kits (first litter): Berryheart - Cloverfoot - Buster/Rippletail
Snowbird's and Scorchfur's kits (second litter): Yarrowleaf - Bluebellkit - Beenose
Snowbird's and Scorchfur's kits (third litter): Conefoot - Gullswoop - Frondwhisker
This is everything I could think of.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 24, 2021 10:39:56 GMT -5
𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥Wow, all of these are so cool! And unique too, I don't think I've ever seen anyone list Flametail as the oldest and Tigerheart as the youngest before. Also, Dustpelt being younger is another major unique one. However, there are some on here that have been stated before. Like, if I remember correctly, Tadpole is the oldest of his litter. Tiny Branch is the youngest. In Windstar's litter it's Moth Flight, Dust Muzzle, and then the other two, I think Morning Whisker and Emberkit, I'm not sure about the last two, but I know that the first two were Moth Flight and Dust Muzzle. You were right about Larchkit being Mapleshade's oldest kit, but Petalkit was the last born. You were also right about Hollyleaf being Leafpool's oldest kit, but Jayfeather was the last born. I really liked the fact that you added in lesser talked about litters, like the Snow x Scorch kits.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 24, 2021 16:04:34 GMT -5
𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 Wow, all of these are so cool! And unique too, I don't think I've ever seen anyone list Flametail as the oldest and Tigerheart as the youngest before. Also, Dustpelt being younger is another major unique one. However, there are some on here that have been stated before. Like, if I remember correctly, Tadpole is the oldest of his litter. Tiny Branch is the youngest. In Windstar's litter it's Moth Flight, Dust Muzzle, and then the other two, I think Morning Whisker and Emberkit, I'm not sure about the last two, but I know that the first two were Moth Flight and Dust Muzzle. You were right about Larchkit being Mapleshade's oldest kit, but Petalkit was the last born. You were also right about Hollyleaf being Leafpool's oldest kit, but Jayfeather was the last born. I really liked the fact that you added in lesser talked about litters, like the Snow x Scorch kits. How do you rember that? XD
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Post by Chicken on Sept 24, 2021 20:42:01 GMT -5
𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 Wow, all of these are so cool! And unique too, I don't think I've ever seen anyone list Flametail as the oldest and Tigerheart as the youngest before. Also, Dustpelt being younger is another major unique one. However, there are some on here that have been stated before. Like, if I remember correctly, Tadpole is the oldest of his litter. Tiny Branch is the youngest. In Windstar's litter it's Moth Flight, Dust Muzzle, and then the other two, I think Morning Whisker and Emberkit, I'm not sure about the last two, but I know that the first two were Moth Flight and Dust Muzzle. You were right about Larchkit being Mapleshade's oldest kit, but Petalkit was the last born. You were also right about Hollyleaf being Leafpool's oldest kit, but Jayfeather was the last born. I really liked the fact that you added in lesser talked about litters, like the Snow x Scorch kits. How do you rember that? XD I focus on all the unimportant things that don't matter in the long run instead of on the plot relevant stuff? XD Like, I completely forgot that ghosts showed up in AVOS, I had no idea Cinderpelt liked Firestar, I can't remember a SINGLE thing about the ancients except that I found them boring, I barely remember Rock, Midnight, or the Dove x Tiger relationship. However what I do remember about Dovewing in OOTS is that she beat both Bumblestripe and Toadstep in a race.
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Post by Rain Wing on Oct 2, 2021 0:03:19 GMT -5
😲I read the Chinese Warriors so I didn't know that they didn't mention it!!! My life is a lie!!!!!! Um well, in the Chinese ones, the translator made Stormfur older than Feathertail, Tawnypelt older than Brablestar, Dovewing older than Ivypool annnnnd I forget Twig and Violet😅
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Post by Chicken on Oct 2, 2021 10:59:24 GMT -5
😲I read the Chinese Warriors so I didn't know that they didn't mention it!!! My life is a lie!!!!!! Um well, in the Chinese ones, the translator made Stormfur older than Feathertail, Tawnypelt older than Brablestar, Dovewing older than Ivypool annnnnd I forget Twig and Violet😅 This is so cool! Thanks for telling me this, does it go over any other birth orders or anything?
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Post by Redstorm on Oct 2, 2021 14:39:34 GMT -5
Wasn't Stormfur born first then Feathertail? I think i remember that from TPB.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 2, 2021 14:43:09 GMT -5
Wasn't Stormfur born first then Feathertail? I think i remember that from TPB. According to what Rain Wing said, he was, I don't remember from TPB though, so you could be right
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Post by Redstorm on Oct 2, 2021 15:57:18 GMT -5
Wasn't Stormfur born first then Feathertail? I think i remember that from TPB. According to what Rain Wing said, he was, I don't remember from TPB though, so you could be right I was thinking from the birth scene lol.
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 2, 2021 16:36:15 GMT -5
Thunderstar and Violet Dawn's kits:
The first born with a bright ginger tom, meaning it was either Shell Claw or Feather Ear. The last born was Sleek Fur if I remember correctly.
And yes, Stormfur is older than Feathertail.
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