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Post by Chicken on Sept 16, 2021 15:35:10 GMT -5
When it comes to the amount of POVS in a Warriors book, which do you prefer? I know they usually go with three, a lot of the time, they usually go with the majority of the POVs in the same clan, but lately, they're getting better about that, because TBC and ASC all have POVS from different clans. However, I still don't really like that, because it leaves two clans out. I think that I would prefer for there to be five solid POVs, one from each clan.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 16, 2021 15:37:52 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, I like it when the focus is on one character because then the authors can focus all their time and creativity solely on them instead of trying to make 2 other POV stand out at the same time.
But I do also enjoy multiple if it's written well
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 16, 2021 15:39:25 GMT -5
i want to see all 5 clans get POV's and every couple chapters, random characters from each clan get a shot at POV. i think a rotation like this is either bad or good and it's very polarizing depending on how they do it. they can give background cats a chance to shine, but at the same time, they would have to worry about characterizing cats they never considered before.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 16, 2021 15:42:10 GMT -5
2 or 3 characters will be the best imo.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 16, 2021 15:44:16 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, I like it when the focus is on one character because then the authors can focus all their time and creativity solely on them instead of trying to make 2 other POV stand out at the same time. But I do also enjoy multiple if it's written well I can understand why people would only want one POV, and you're right, I feel like if Twigbranch and Violetshine didn't have POVS, Alderheart could have been a more interesting character than he was in that arc. However, I like seeing into other clans, and I find the same POV to get boring after awhile, it takes me forever to read SEs, because it's like 500 pages of the same POV and I don't have the attention span for that lol.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 16, 2021 15:51:55 GMT -5
Chicken Yeah, that would be a long while being stuck with a POV. Plus if you don't like them you're out of luck. Maybe 1 clan pov per book, that be cool Also agreed on the SE part, I've never finished one because of how long they are
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Post by Chicken on Sept 16, 2021 15:56:53 GMT -5
Chicken Yeah, that would be a long while being stuck with a POV. Plus if you don't like them you're out of luck. Maybe 1 clan pov per book, that be cool Also agreed on the SE part, I've never finished one because of how long they are That would be a great idea! That's how I feel like DOTC should have went, like book one be Gray Wing's POV, and then the rest of the books being from the POV of the first leaders of each clan.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 16, 2021 19:22:03 GMT -5
I like either 2-3 POVs.
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Post by Snowfire on Sept 17, 2021 5:06:35 GMT -5
Honestly it would depend what’s happening in the books, but I would like to see an arc where they switch POVs like a different Clan POV each book and see each how each Clan reacts to a situation and such, like I said though it depends.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 17, 2021 5:43:20 GMT -5
I prefer two PoVs like it was during TNP (with Brambleclaw and Leafpool getting the most of it) but other perspectives mixed in (like Squirrelflight for two books and Stormfur for a few chapters). I'm also hoping to one day see an arc where one half is told from the hero's point of view and the other is how the villain sees it.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Sept 17, 2021 6:57:22 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see POVs from all five Clans, but I see that more as a slice-of-life kind of story. Generally speaking, I prefer 2-3 POVs to keep the story focused.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 17, 2021 11:29:53 GMT -5
I prefer two PoVs like it was during TNP (with Brambleclaw and Leafpool getting the most of it) but other perspectives mixed in (like Squirrelflight for two books and Stormfur for a few chapters). I'm also hoping to one day see an arc where one half is told from the hero's point of view and the other is how the villain sees it. An arc from the hero and the villain's POV would be so cool! An idea where that kind of works, is a dual POV with Willow Tail and Red Claw, though, it's a bit different, because neither of them are true heroes or true villains, like in Willow Tail's mind, Red Claw is the true villain of her story, because she blames him for the death of her friend and brother, but in reality, it was just a reckless accident.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 17, 2021 12:05:09 GMT -5
I prefer two PoVs like it was during TNP (with Brambleclaw and Leafpool getting the most of it) but other perspectives mixed in (like Squirrelflight for two books and Stormfur for a few chapters). I'm also hoping to one day see an arc where one half is told from the hero's point of view and the other is how the villain sees it. An arc from the hero and the villain's POV would be so cool! An idea where that kind of works, is a dual POV with Willow Tail and Red Claw, though, it's a bit different, because neither of them are true heroes or true villains, like in Willow Tail's mind, Red Claw is the true villain of her story, because she blames him for the death of her friend and brother, but in reality, it was just a reckless accident. Exactly! I thought that it was really interesting how those two already had some etablished animosity towards each other in the last book of DotC which then continued on in Moth Flight's SE. Perhaps something similar can be done again but this time both cats get PoVs. Maybe even in a second arc during the DotC era.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 17, 2021 12:08:50 GMT -5
An arc from the hero and the villain's POV would be so cool! An idea where that kind of works, is a dual POV with Willow Tail and Red Claw, though, it's a bit different, because neither of them are true heroes or true villains, like in Willow Tail's mind, Red Claw is the true villain of her story, because she blames him for the death of her friend and brother, but in reality, it was just a reckless accident. Exactly! I thought that it was really interesting how those two already had some etablished animosity towards each other in the last book of DotC which then continued on in Moth Flight's SE. Perhaps something similar can be done again but this time both cats get PoVs. Maybe even in a second arc during the DotC era. Agreed! I really hope so, Red Claw is my favorite DOTC cat and one of my favorite characters over all.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 17, 2021 12:19:37 GMT -5
Exactly! I thought that it was really interesting how those two already had some etablished animosity towards each other in the last book of DotC which then continued on in Moth Flight's SE. Perhaps something similar can be done again but this time both cats get PoVs. Maybe even in a second arc during the DotC era. Agreed! I really hope so, Red Claw is my favorite DOTC cat and one of my favorite characters over all. I like Red Claw as well! But could also understand why Willow Tail was furious at him to some degree until she went overboard with her vengefulness and caused a battle over it.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 17, 2021 12:21:46 GMT -5
Agreed! I really hope so, Red Claw is my favorite DOTC cat and one of my favorite characters over all. I like Red Claw as well! But could also understand why Willow Tail was furious at him to some degree until she went overboard with her vengefulness and caused a battle over it. Agreed! I felt bad for both of them about this whole situation, though I find it hard to like Willow Tail that much, because I don't really remember her having much of a character outside of being angry at Red Claw.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 17, 2021 12:31:44 GMT -5
I like Red Claw as well! But could also understand why Willow Tail was furious at him to some degree until she went overboard with her vengefulness and caused a battle over it. Agreed! I felt bad for both of them about this whole situation, though I find it hard to like Willow Tail that much, because I don't really remember her having much of a character outside of being angry at Red Claw. That's the writing teams fault as most of the other members of Slash's group either joined the Clans for an entirely fresh start like Red Claw, Violet Dawn and Fern Leaf while others decided to either stay loyal to him or returned to his side later on like Ember and Bee. Willow Tail was the only one to have some lasting thoughts about her past life and how it was changed by Red Claw on accident and the early Clans who had already planned to help.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Sept 19, 2021 16:06:16 GMT -5
In books generally I prefer fluid POV, where the author isn't locked into any particular character(s). That makes it read more like a movie or tv show where the author can show whatever scene they need to rather than forcing the POV character to be present somehow.
If the POV is locked, I always say no more than three POVs per book. This is a common "rule" (suggestion) in the writing community because people notice that when four or more significant POVs are present, the book gets cluttered and hard to follow, and the plot becomes MUCH harder to progress.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Sept 19, 2021 20:50:26 GMT -5
An arc from the hero and the villain's POV would be so cool! An idea where that kind of works, is a dual POV with Willow Tail and Red Claw, though, it's a bit different, because neither of them are true heroes or true villains, like in Willow Tail's mind, Red Claw is the true villain of her story, because she blames him for the death of her friend and brother, but in reality, it was just a reckless accident. Exactly! I thought that it was really interesting how those two already had some etablished animosity towards each other in the last book of DotC which then continued on in Moth Flight's SE. Perhaps something similar can be done again but this time both cats get PoVs. Maybe even in a second arc during the DotC era. YES!! hard agree , like seriously , I mean the Erins have spoken out numerous Times how They Derive a lot of inspiration from Brian Jacques Redwall Series , yet have never done an Arc with both the Hero and Villains PoV , going on 19 years without one though . So not holding my breath of the Writers changing up the formula or adding anything we haven’t seen at least 50 times by now .
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