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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 16:19:12 GMT -5
This is mostly going to be a stream of consciousness thread.
So, for starters, I'm going to let Rusty still join ThunderClan since Firestar factor in saving the clans and stuff in TLH and they sort of tied that into his original prophecy. Since the Dark Forest was still plotting before Tigerstar was born, Firestar stays! Yay!
Into The Wild:
Redtail lives. Spottedleaf, Lionheart, and Rosetail still perish. I'm just going to name every apprentice who becomes a warrior when they idn't make it in canon "foot". Since Ravenpaw remains in ThunderClan, he becomes Ravenfoot alongside Fireheart and Graystripe, as a placeholder name. paw -> foot, get it? Since Redtail still lives, Bluestar doesn't need to name a new deputy when Lionheart dies.
In Fire and Ice, Ravenfoot still being in ThunderClan creates a problem. Bluestar would know if she gave Brightkit or Thornkit to Ravenfoot then the other kit would feel left out. But I think she would still want to give Graystripe an apprentice, and she's wise enough to Ravenfoot can handle being the odd cat out.
I believe Graystripe would still meet Silverstream, Ravenfoot might provide somewhat of a buffer in the whole drama, being on Fireheart's side but keeping his temper about it all.
So guys, I have a question, you think Ravenfoot would sway Graystripe into not meeting Silverstream?
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She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 13, 2021 17:01:35 GMT -5
This is mostly going to be a stream of consciousness thread. So, for starters, I'm going to let Rusty still join ThunderClan since Firestar factor in saving the clans and stuff in TLH and they sort of tied that into his original prophecy. Since the Dark Forest was still plotting before Tigerstar was born, Firestar stays! Yay! Into The Wild: Redtail lives. Spottedleaf, Lionheart, and Rosetail still perish. I'm just going to name every apprentice who becomes a warrior when they idn't make it in canon "foot". Since Ravenpaw remains in ThunderClan, he becomes Ravenfoot alongside Fireheart and Graystripe, as a placeholder name. paw -> foot, get it? Since Redtail still lives, Bluestar doesn't need to name a new deputy when Lionheart dies. In Fire and Ice, Ravenfoot still being in ThunderClan creates a problem. Bluestar would know if she gave Brightkit or Thornkit to Ravenfoot then the other kit would feel left out. But I think she would still want to give Graystripe an apprentice, and she's wise enough to Ravenfoot can handle being the odd cat out. I believe Graystripe would still meet Silverstream, Ravenfoot might provide somewhat of a buffer in the whole drama, being on Fireheart's side but keeping his temper about it all. So guys, I have a question, you think Ravenfoot would sway Graystripe into not meeting Silverstream? Could be possible that Ravenfoot would stop Graystripe meeting Silverstream.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 13, 2021 17:03:51 GMT -5
rusty wouldn't even need to join thunderclan if there was no villain. so if its not tigerclaw, then it would just be someone else. maybe darkstripe or whitestorm would be evil because of his dad or something idk.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 17:23:14 GMT -5
rusty wouldn't even need to join thunderclan if there was no villain. so if its not tigerclaw, then it would just be someone else. maybe darkstripe or whitestorm would be evil because of his dad or something idk. I already explained that Firestar's involvement in TLH keeps him in the series in this AU.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 13, 2021 17:24:55 GMT -5
rusty wouldn't even need to join thunderclan if there was no villain. so if its not tigerclaw, then it would just be someone else. maybe darkstripe or whitestorm would be evil because of his dad or something idk. I already explained that Firestar's involvement in TLH keeps him in the series in this AU. nah, i disagree. firestar was only needed in thunderclan in the first arc because of tigerclaw. the dark forest wasnt even a thing back then when it was written, so it wasn't a huge part of the core story either. if tigerclaw didnt exist, firestar wouldnt be in a prophecy and bluestar wouldnt have reason to bring him in. there would need to be a tigerclaw replacement for the fire prohecy to still exist.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 17:34:32 GMT -5
I agree that reviving Firestar's prophecy in TLH is a retcon, but it still stands so I'm gonna stick with it.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 17:36:21 GMT -5
This is mostly going to be a stream of consciousness thread. So, for starters, I'm going to let Rusty still join ThunderClan since Firestar factor in saving the clans and stuff in TLH and they sort of tied that into his original prophecy. Since the Dark Forest was still plotting before Tigerstar was born, Firestar stays! Yay! Into The Wild: Redtail lives. Spottedleaf, Lionheart, and Rosetail still perish. I'm just going to name every apprentice who becomes a warrior when they idn't make it in canon "foot". Since Ravenpaw remains in ThunderClan, he becomes Ravenfoot alongside Fireheart and Graystripe, as a placeholder name. paw -> foot, get it? Since Redtail still lives, Bluestar doesn't need to name a new deputy when Lionheart dies. In Fire and Ice, Ravenfoot still being in ThunderClan creates a problem. Bluestar would know if she gave Brightkit or Thornkit to Ravenfoot then the other kit would feel left out. But I think she would still want to give Graystripe an apprentice, and she's wise enough to Ravenfoot can handle being the odd cat out. I believe Graystripe would still meet Silverstream, Ravenfoot might provide somewhat of a buffer in the whole drama, being on Fireheart's side but keeping his temper about it all. So guys, I have a question, you think Ravenfoot would sway Graystripe into not meeting Silverstream? Could be possible that Ravenfoot would stop Graystripe meeting Silverstream. I've been thinking hard about it and I think Ravenfoot would try and have better luck then Fireheart, but in the end I think Graystripe would keep going. Fire and Ice and Ice quarrel would've been less severe tho.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 17:38:44 GMT -5
The rest of Fire and Ice continues as normal, I believe, save for Cinderpaw avoiding her injury. I'm happy but I'm a little nervous for what that means for Rising Storm...
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 17:52:56 GMT -5
Forest of Secrets is going fairly normally so far, with some minor rifts-Longtail never saves Fireheart from Tigerclaw's trap. Bramblekit and Tawnykit kinda don't exist. Poor beans. Fireheart and Graystripe don't get caught helping RiverClan, Silverstream is pregnant. So the whole Brokenstar drama still happens, but Cinderpelt is with Brackenfur. Tigerstar never shows up, but neither does Cinderpelt, since she's not a medicine cat. Graystripe never confesses. I'm not sure whether Featherkit or Stormkit would've lived without Cinderpaw. I'm gonna give a soft 'no'? So Mistyfoot and Leopardfur come for the kits, which creates some d r a m a since nobody knew beforehand in this verse. The rogue attack doesn't happen, but everything else save for Bluestar's downslide and Fireheart's deputyship (since Redtail is still the deputy)
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 18:03:25 GMT -5
Rising Storm Since Bluestar is doing better for herself and Fireheart is an ordinary warrior still, Fernpaw and Ashpaw's mentors could be someone else. Minor change. I do think that since Bluestar's illness was slightly factored by age, but massively impacted by the non-existent Tigerclaw's betrayal, she's doing "OK". Maybe a bit slower but definitely better then in canon. ShadowClan...is doing...very, very, badly. Especially without Tigerstar to lead them and Cinderpelt to tend to Whitethroat and Littlecloud. Runningwind lives. Minor change. ThunderClan doesn't have a medicine cat - big change! Maybe that causes Bluestar to slide.
Other than that, Sandstorm and Fireheart's blossoming romance, Cloudpaw's subplot, the fire, all happen as normal.
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 13, 2021 18:50:27 GMT -5
The dog pack would still be loose even without Tigerstar in the next book, and without him to funnel them around, they may attack sooner but in a more random way.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 13, 2021 19:15:18 GMT -5
I think a lot of cats would be a lot happier! Though, I am curious to see what would have happened to ShadowClan. Ravenfoot is the most adorable Warrior name I've heard for Ravenpaw btw!
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 13, 2021 20:28:54 GMT -5
Well, I've thought about it and I'm actually beginning to realize that ShadowClan's situation is a lot like the ending of into the wild-leaderless and deputyless. Remembering Flowerstar's situation in Code of the Clans, I think the medicine cats would pick a shadowclan cat. The oldest cat who's had an apprentice according to Tigerclaw's fury is Rowanberry, Yellowfang's sister-and Flintfang is a second. So in this AU, Rowanstar-Zero and her deputy Flintfang (the second oldest)
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 15, 2021 23:03:22 GMT -5
I'm going to say that Swiftfoot and Brightheart don't get attacked by dogs, since Tigerstar played a big role in Bluestar's madness, and that in turn factored into their desperation to prove themselves. Snowkit still dies of the hawk. Hmm, my guess is that the medicine cat situation would be handled as Ravenwing was in Mapleshade's vengeance/Puddleshine, since if none of the kits in question have The Gift, then they pick the most "demure" kit closest to apprentice age. I'm sorry, Fernkit.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 15, 2021 23:22:19 GMT -5
So Ferncloud is speed-trained and speed-named ala Puddleshine (you may all be wondering how Dovewing will be born if Ferncloud doesn't exist...well, the simple answer is (and I'm sorry Dovewing fans I had no idea that this was gonna happen when I started this)...she won't...I have a simple solution for it and it should generate some interesting chaos)
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Sept 16, 2021 22:49:32 GMT -5
Uummmmm....OK, guys, I was thinking, maybe Ashfur would have to be a medicine cat instead. Because I found a way to work Firestar in because a later prophecy demanded it...so Dovewing is required as well. hmmm...also weird. Interesting! So replace Ferncloud with Ashfur... Medicine cat Ashfur... joy...
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