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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 13:11:33 GMT -5
AVOS is one of those arcs that I really like to play with in terms of “what ifs” and this is one that I thought might be fun to discuss! My personal thoughts are that it would be really cool if Needletail was the ShadowClan POV in the second book and half of the third book, but after she dies her POV is replaced with Violetshine’s.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 13, 2021 13:14:55 GMT -5
Not really, in fact, if I had it my way, Brindlewing or Smokehaze would have had her whole character arc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 13:19:21 GMT -5
Not really, in fact, if I had it my way, Brindlewing or Smokehaze would have had her whole character arc. oh I like that! honestly avos desperately needed a windclan pov, since a major focus of the darktail conflict was onestar. it would’ve been cool to see onestar’s uncertainty and distrust reach a crescendo from a windclan pov! plus it would’ve made a lot of sense for darktail to focus on inciting windclan apprentices to rebel instead of shadowclan.
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Post by leopardclan on Sept 13, 2021 13:20:54 GMT -5
Yes for sure, honestly I'd much rather she was the main one over alderheart. Seeing her pov from shadowclan before darktail actually got there but the tension between the younger members of the clan and rowanclaw was rising would be really neat. Plus she's just a fun character in my opinion.
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Post by Fireleap on Sept 13, 2021 13:25:42 GMT -5
I think giving her a few chapters here and there would've been nice, but I liked the way they handled her for the most part. She feels more menacing and entertaining when you don't know what's going on in her head.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 13, 2021 13:32:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm fine with her not having a narrative? But I did like her bonus chapter. I suppose if she had like a novella instead it would be fine, but considering the story focused more on Twig and Violet as a whole, she would have most likely have been overshadowed by them like Alder.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 13, 2021 13:38:45 GMT -5
No thank you. She would have just blamed her eventual situation all on Rowanstar like she did in canon instead of taking responsibility. Plus, her sacrifice would not have been half as dramatic if it had been from her PoV. While Alderheart was rather boring most of the time and in comparison to Twigbranch and Violetshine especially, he at least never came off like a self righteous brat.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 13, 2021 13:45:46 GMT -5
Not really, in fact, if I had it my way, Brindlewing or Smokehaze would have had her whole character arc. oh I like that! honestly avos desperately needed a windclan pov, since a major focus of the darktail conflict was onestar. it would’ve been cool to see onestar’s uncertainty and distrust reach a crescendo from a windclan pov! plus it would’ve made a lot of sense for darktail to focus on inciting windclan apprentices to rebel instead of shadowclan. I could not agree more! I feel like if they had done the Darktail thing right after the Mudclaw vs Onestar thing, it would have worked a lot better. I can see like Onestar being an unsure of himself leader, and basically having the same storyline that Rowanstar did, but slightly different, because Rowanstar's a better cat over all. I also don't understand why everyone turned on Rowanstar, or why he fell so hard and so quickly, he was able to run ShadowClan just fine for like two years with little issues.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 13, 2021 13:58:10 GMT -5
i agree with Chickenneedle and alder were both replaceable. smoke and brindle could have totally been given their plots with a few fixes and changes. and i firmly believe AVOS would have been a thousand times better for it. windclan should have been one of the major focuses of the arc thanks to darktail's connection to onestar...so idk why the writers didn't think of this and give needle's role to smoke or brindle? or make one of them windclan's medicine cat apprentice since kestrel was getting older by that point and really needed an apprentice? AVOS is a waste because they didn't put windclan in the spotlight...
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 13, 2021 17:23:35 GMT -5
Needletail having a POV would have been cool, but only for a few chapters here and there.
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 13, 2021 18:52:13 GMT -5
Her POV would've been more irritating and made me hate her more.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Sept 13, 2021 21:12:20 GMT -5
No. I can't stand her even without a POV
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Post by Numquam on Sept 13, 2021 21:25:57 GMT -5
She's my fave character so yes
I don't know if it'd work out as a main character for the whole time that she's alive, but it'd be cool to see her POV for a few chapters here and there.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Sept 14, 2021 7:03:38 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Sept 17, 2021 8:46:55 GMT -5
No thank you. Seeing her inner dialouge would just make her worse.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 17, 2021 9:15:59 GMT -5
Nah. I would have been even more done with AvOS if I had to read her internal thoughts on why her treatment of Violetshine was “justified” and why every issue she ever made for herself was everyone’s fault but her own. It’s better they not give her a PoV. I agree that a Windclan POV should have been in the story to show us the slow realization that Onestar was Darktail’s father.
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