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Post by Sand 🎃 on Sept 1, 2021 6:58:45 GMT -5
I’m tempted to read a Warriors book since I haven’t read one since 2012. I don’t want to read anything that deals with the current or newer arcs either. Is rereading the entire series worth it?
So, what would you guys suggest?
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Post by Aqua on Sept 1, 2021 7:16:16 GMT -5
Hollyleaf's Story, Hawking's Journey (I personally don't care for it, but it's action-packed) Mapleshade's Vengeance (imo again, don't like or care for it, but to some it's worth it), Ravenpaw's Farewell. Those are just a couple that come to mind.
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Post by Fireleap on Sept 1, 2021 7:25:40 GMT -5
SkyClan's Destiny, Yellowfang's Secret, Crookedstar's Promise, Tallstar's Revenge, Crowfeather's Trial, Hollyleaf's Story, Cloudstar's Journey, Goosefeather's Curse, Mapleshade's Vengence, Pinestar's Choice, Mothwing's Secret.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 1, 2021 9:49:01 GMT -5
I'm also going to list SEs and Novellas that got released before 2012 as I don't know which of them you've already read but even then, re-reading them could also be fun.
Super Editions: Firestar's Quest (from 2007) SkyClan's Destiny (from 2010) Crookedstar's Promise (from 2011) Yellowfang's Secret (from 2012) Tallstar's Revenge (from 2013) Crowfeather's Trial (from 2018 but everything except for the short manga at the end takes place after OotS)
Novellas: Tigerclaw's Fury (from 2014 but takes place during the first arc) Dovewing's Silence (also from 2014 but takes place shortly after the OotS arc) Ravenpaw's Farewell (from 2016 but takes place during and shortly after the OotS arc) Mothwing's Secret (from 2020 but takes place in TNP and OotS) Blackfoot's Reckoning (from 2021 but takes place during the first arc)
About your question wether or not it's worth it to (re-)read the entire series, I would say yes, although I'm very biased due to my own willingness to do so last year after being on a five year break from these books.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 1, 2021 11:37:43 GMT -5
I think SkyClan's Destiny would be a good choice, because it really just deals with SkyClan themselves (no other clan) and two other rogue groups. The prequel ones like Bluestar's Prophecy, Crookedstar's Promise, Tallstar's Revenge, etc, don't really deal with the current arc either. I think re-reading the series would be worth it if you liked it the first time around.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Sept 1, 2021 17:12:10 GMT -5
Aqua - Thank you for your suggestions, I don't think I've read any of those books. Ravenpaw's sounds interesting at the moment, so I'll see if I can find it! Fireleap - Your list is great, thank you! I've only read SkyClan's Destiny from it, so I'm tempted to read the rest. 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 - Thank you for your suggestions as well. I think I've read the first 2 SEs you've listed, but none of the others. I can relate to that though-- I haven't read a Warriors book in 7 years and reading through the spoiler thread for Leopardstar's Honor kinda made me wonder if rereading is worth my time. I want to try, but I'll see if I can make it happen. Chicken - I'm trying to remember if I finished Crookedstar's Promise when I was a teenager... but I don't really remember. I'll try those books as well! (besides the Bluestar one since I read it once). I did like the series the first time I read it, I'm not caught up on anything recent because I lost interest in it. Maybe because the characters I enjoyed the most are all gone.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 1, 2021 17:15:42 GMT -5
Sand 🎃That's understandable! I almost gave up on the series after my favorite character bit the dust, but I still think they're worth a read. Maybe if you continue on, you will discover new characters to enjoy?
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Post by Skypaw13 on Sept 1, 2021 19:21:39 GMT -5
As far as side stories go, I think you'll be best off with the arc 1 books-- Bluestar, Crookedstar, Yellowfang, Tallstar, and Leopardstar for SEs; and Tigerclaw, Goosefeather, Redtail, and Blackfoot for novellas. All of these books have shared events so you won't have to keep track of a long timeline. If you've read the first arc recently enough to remember the major events, you'll be able to understand any one of these side stories (except maybe Goosefeather's-- read Bluestar's before Goosefeather's).
Mapleshade's is a decent villain protagonist story if you're into that. It's pretty dark, and it takes place well before the first arc.
Dovewing's and Bramblestar's are both epilogues to OotS. If you stopped reading after TLH because you thought the series should have ended there (like I did), these might be worth checking out.
If you read Firestar's Quest and liked it, then SkyClan's Destiny is worth trying as well, but I would make sure to reread Firestar's first so you're caught up.
Leafpool's and Hollyleaf's are both filler stories, but they have some wholesome content and I enjoyed both of them.
My personal favorites of the ones listed in this post are Crookedstar's, Yellowfang's, Goosefeather's, Blackfoot's, and Leafpool's. I don't know what you like in books, so I can't give personal recommendations, but those are the ones I personally enjoyed most.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Sept 1, 2021 20:20:03 GMT -5
Here are some of my favorite Super Editions and Novellas: Super Editions:- Crookedstar's Promise - This book gives a really good backstory to Crookedstar. It takes place entirely in the time before Firestar joined ThunderClan, and it's one of my favorite Super Editions.
- Yellowfang's Secret - This one often gets criticized as not being great compared to the other ones, but I really enjoy learning about Yellowfang's and Brokenstar's backstories a bit. Definitely worth checking out, even if it isn't the highest quality SE.
- Tallstar's Revenge - This gives us a good backstory on Tallstar and I highly recommend it.
- Moth Flight's Vision - If you read the DOTC then this is a great follow up to that. If you haven't read Dawn of the Clans yet, and you're interested in reading a new arc, this is the one to go with. It doesn't have the newer plots, and it's a really good plot all about how the Clans came to be. Moth Flight's Vision takes place immediately after DOTC ends.
- Hawkwing's Journey - This one does technically deal a bit with the plot of A Vision of Shadows, but only tangentially - you don't need to have read or be interested in reading AVOS to be able to enjoy this book. It's a good side story that leads well into AVOS, but the story is pretty complete on it's own and worth a read if you're interested in SkyClan at all.
- Bramblestar's Storm - This SE takes place not long after the Great Battle in The Last Hope, so if you're interested in what happened next without getting into the next arc, this is a good SE for you. It is entirely its own story that doesn't take place in the middle of an arc like more recent SEs have been doing.
There's also always the classics, Firestar's Quest and Bluestar's Prophecy, but you've likely already read those.
Novellas:- Hollyleaf's Story - I really enjoyed this novella. It details Hollyleaf's life from the moment she disappeared into the tunnels to the moment she reappeared in ThunderClan. And I loved having this insight into what her life was like during those seasons.
- Ravenpaw's Farewell - I love this novella but it's not one I can read over and over again. It's a bit slow, but it's entirely its own plot and the only relevance it has to newer arcs are a couple of characters that get introduced in SkyClan. Otherwise, it's entirely its own story and is definitely worth the read.
- Pinestar's Choice - This is another one that's a bit slow, but once you get into it it's really good and it actually makes you understand why Pinestar made the choice to leave ThunderClan to become a kittypet.
- Thunderstar's Echo - This is another one that takes place in the Dawn of the Clans era, so if you haven't read those then this one won't make much sense. But it's a really good sort of epilogue to the DOTC arc.
- Mothwing's Secret - This novella gives Mothwing's POV from when she was a young warrior until after the Great Battle. It shows more of Mothwing and Hawkfrost's relationship, and gives a better understanding of Mothwing as a character, particularly her lack of faith in StarClan.
- Blackfoot's Reckoning - In my opinion, this is the best novella in the Warriors series. It takes a very unique angle to tell Blackstar's story and show how he went from being a loyal follower of Brokenstar and Tigerstar to a strong and noble leader of ShadowClan. It also made me really appreciate Blackstar more as a character and how great of a leader he really did become.
If you want to avoid books related to the modern arcs (A Vision of Shadows and The Broken Code), then you may want to avoid Super Editions such as Tigerheart's Shadow, which takes place during AVOS, Squirrelflight's Hope, which takes place between AVOS, and Graystripe's Vow, which is partly set in modern ThunderClan in the middle of TBC (but it does have about half of its chapters take place in the past when Graystripe was leading ThunderClan while Firestar was on his quest). Also avoid the novellas Tawnypelt's Clan, Pebbleshine's Kits, Tree's Roots, Daisy's Kin, and Spotfur's Rebellion. And, just as a side note, I'd avoid reading Spottedleaf's Heart, too. It doesn't take place in modern times (obviously) but it's really bad. Redtail's Debt is a really good novella, but has a super fatal error at the end that makes it unforgiveable, so tread with caution if you choose to read that one and be prepared to get angry. And as for your question about whether rereading the entire series is worth it, I'd say that it is. I've done it a few times since I picked the books back up again a few years ago. I like to read them in chronological order (so starting with DOTC) and fit the Super Editions and novellas in wherever they go chronologically (so sometimes in the middle of arcs, between arcs, etc.). But I think it's also just worth reading the main arcs again. There was something almost fun about rediscovering how much I loved this series growing up the first time I reread it after many years. Also... Holy shit, sorry, I didn't realize how long I was making this until I posted it.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Sept 1, 2021 21:20:44 GMT -5
Redtail's Debt is a really good novella, but has a super fatal error at the end that makes it unforgiveable, so tread with caution if you choose to read that one and be prepared to get angry. Nah, I'm gonna counter this one. Just because the fandom has a histrionic meltdown over a continuity error doesn't ruin an otherwise good book. The inconsistency in question isn't even plot-relevant to Redtail himself, so you can easily ignore it and pretend it went the way portrayed in Into the Wild. It's not the worst mistake made in the series and I genuinely don't comprehend why people get so worked up over it. I agree with your take on Blackfoot's Reckoning, though. Definitely the best novella, if not the best standalone.
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Post by Aqua on Sept 2, 2021 10:06:36 GMT -5
Aqua - Thank you for your suggestions, I don't think I've read any of those books. Ravenpaw's sounds interesting at the moment, so I'll see if I can find it! Fireleap - Your list is great, thank you! I've only read SkyClan's Destiny from it, so I'm tempted to read the rest. 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 - Thank you for your suggestions as well. I think I've read the first 2 SEs you've listed, but none of the others. I can relate to that though-- I haven't read a Warriors book in 7 years and reading through the spoiler thread for Leopardstar's Honor kinda made me wonder if rereading is worth my time. I want to try, but I'll see if I can make it happen. Chicken - I'm trying to remember if I finished Crookedstar's Promise when I was a teenager... but I don't really remember. I'll try those books as well! (besides the Bluestar one since I read it once). I did like the series the first time I read it, I'm not caught up on anything recent because I lost interest in it. Maybe because the characters I enjoyed the most are all gone. If you want to read Hawkwing's Journey, you need to read A Vision of Shadows since it connects with that story. It's actually a very good arc, my second favorite, so I recommend it. Power of Three is personally my top favorite one because of Hollyleaf though. Lol.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Sept 2, 2021 10:12:23 GMT -5
Skypaw13 - thank you so much for the recommendations! I’m interested in the books you’ve mentioned. I gotta find a way to read them now. But yes, I think the series should have ended at TLH. Now, it’s just a cash cow. 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 - your list is amazing, it really helps me see what the book may be like + people’s opinions on it. Definitely not going to read Spottedleaf’s book. I don’t remember liking her character and I’ve read that the book is basically trash. As for Redtail’s Debt, what was the mistake? I have read the first DOTC book and I really enjoyed it. Maybe I need to continue on with those first.
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Post by Fireleap on Sept 2, 2021 12:14:11 GMT -5
As for Redtail’s Debt, what was the mistake? According to RD, Redtail killed Oakheart.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Sept 2, 2021 13:14:54 GMT -5
Skypaw13 - thank you so much for the recommendations! I’m interested in the books you’ve mentioned. I gotta find a way to read them now. But yes, I think the series should have ended at TLH. Now, it’s just a cash cow. 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 - your list is amazing, it really helps me see what the book may be like + people’s opinions on it. Definitely not going to read Spottedleaf’s book. I don’t remember liking her character and I’ve read that the book is basically trash. As for Redtail’s Debt, what was the mistake? I have read the first DOTC book and I really enjoyed it. Maybe I need to continue on with those first. In Redtail’s book, Redtail kills Oakheart. It can be overlooked if you try, and the rest of the novella is really good, but this is a mistake that has upset a lot of people. And I definitely would recommend reading all of DOTC. It’s one of my favorite arcs in the entire series.
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