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Post by Aqua on Aug 14, 2021 17:49:23 GMT -5
If she told the truth about Ashfur that she killed him on purpose, do you think her clan would have exiled her?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Aug 14, 2021 18:03:43 GMT -5
i feel like she'd try to get jay, lion, and squirrel on her side by saying "well, ashfur almost killed us in that fire, so me killing him to save face and for revenge for the fire was justified." i wonder what the clan would think then lol
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Post by Cheetahstar on Aug 14, 2021 18:23:26 GMT -5
i mean
he did literally try and kill them (and firestar) to hurt squirrelflight
so while I think she would have been confined to camp for like, a while
i dont think she would have been exiled
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Post by rabbit on Aug 14, 2021 18:29:47 GMT -5
i feel like she'd try to get jay, lion, and squirrel on her side by saying "well, ashfur almost killed us in that fire, so me killing him to save face and for revenge for the fire was justified." i wonder what the clan would think then lol Always found it weird everybody automatically hates Ashfur in the broken code despite never being told on-screen of the treacherous things he did. You'd think some of them would be like "wait Ashfur conspired to kill Firestar and attempted burn some of our clanmates alive? How come I've never heard of this?" Ashfur was seen as a respected warrior when he initially died after all.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Aug 14, 2021 18:33:59 GMT -5
i feel like she'd try to get jay, lion, and squirrel on her side by saying "well, ashfur almost killed us in that fire, so me killing him to save face and for revenge for the fire was justified." i wonder what the clan would think then lol Always found it weird everybody automatically hates Ashfur in the broken code despite never being told on-screen of the treacherous things he did. You'd think some of them would be like "wait Ashfur conspired to kill Firestar and attempted burn some of our clanmates alive? How come I've never heard of this?" Ashfur was seen as a respected warrior when he initially died after all. didn't TBC excuse this as "well i heard this nursery tale about ashfur" or something? like how the heck do all the clans know about it then? or did i miss something in TBC? lol
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Post by rabbit on Aug 14, 2021 18:46:06 GMT -5
Always found it weird everybody automatically hates Ashfur in the broken code despite never being told on-screen of the treacherous things he did. You'd think some of them would be like "wait Ashfur conspired to kill Firestar and attempted burn some of our clanmates alive? How come I've never heard of this?" Ashfur was seen as a respected warrior when he initially died after all. didn't TBC excuse this as "well i heard this nursery tale about ashfur" or something? like how the heck do all the clans know about it then? or did i miss something in TBC? lol Well if that's the case it didn't come out as a "nursery tale" until after Omen of the Stars, probably a couple years after he died, because when Hollyleaf returned, nobody brought up the bad things Ashfur did. You'd think a bunch of them would just have a hard time believing Ashfur was bad since it was so long ago and Ashfur only showed his malicious side to a selection of cats. edit: Like how did the truth get out? Was Squirrelflight like, "Ok, Adlerkit and Sparkkit, let me tell you the time my crazy ex tried to kill your grandpa and burn you cousins alive."
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Post by Chicken on Aug 14, 2021 19:14:29 GMT -5
didn't TBC excuse this as "well i heard this nursery tale about ashfur" or something? like how the heck do all the clans know about it then? or did i miss something in TBC? lol Well if that's the case it didn't come out as a "nursery tale" until after Omen of the Stars, probably a couple years after he died, because when Hollyleaf returned, nobody brought up the bad things Ashfur did. You'd think a bunch of them would just have a hard time believing Ashfur was bad since it was so long ago and Ashfur only showed his malicious side to a selection of cats. edit: Like how did the truth get out? Was Squirrelflight like, "Ok, Adlerkit and Sparkkit, let me tell you the time my crazy ex tried to kill your grandpa and burn you cousins alive." That last bit...lmfao XDDD Someone should animate that.
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Post by Rainsplash on Aug 14, 2021 19:16:49 GMT -5
She wouldn't've been exiled, but idk how the Clans knew about Ashfur's everything. I thought Squirrelflight and Lionblaze and Jayfeather just wanted to keep it down Anyways, I think she would've been viewed even badly than when she returned without telling.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Aug 15, 2021 7:23:20 GMT -5
If Hollyleaf had told the truth about Ashfur's death, which she actually was planning to do before Brambleclaw interrupted her to create a cover up story for his adoptive daughter, then surely her brothers and Squirrelflight would have come to her aid on exposing Ashfur's crimes to the whole of ThunderClan. He conspired with Hawkfrost to kill his own leader so I'm sure both Firestar and Brambleclaw would have been interested in hearing that story which Ashfur himself confessed to during the fire scene. As Dustpelt said in the canon interrogation scene of The Forgotten Warrior:
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Post by αɳσɱαʅყ on Aug 15, 2021 10:02:03 GMT -5
If Hollyleaf had told the truth about Ashfur's death, which she actually was planning to do before Brambleclaw interrupted her to create a cover up story for his adoptive daughter, then surely her brothers and Squirrelflight would have come to her aid on exposing Ashfur's crimes to the whole of ThunderClan. He conspired with Hawkfrost to kill his own leader so I'm sure both Firestar and Brambleclaw would have been interested in hearing that story which Ashfur himself confessed to during the fire scene. As Dustpelt said in the canon interrogation scene of The Forgotten Warrior: "Hollyleaf did us a favor." I forgot how much of a King Dustpelt is.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Aug 15, 2021 17:15:02 GMT -5
Since there are three other eyewitnesses to back Hollyleaf up, I feel like she'd just be assigned tick-duty for a while. Although it might take ThunderClan some time to accept that Ashfur would be capable of doing that lol.
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