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Post by crowspirit on Aug 11, 2021 6:54:31 GMT -5
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 11, 2021 7:27:12 GMT -5
Oh, there are so many mistakes in the allegiances! To name a few, Mousefur and Runningwind shouldn't even be born yet, Patchpelt is on there twice, Thistleclaw is still an apprentice even though Snowfur has already had Whitekit, and that's just ThunderClan! Shrewclaw should be dead during this time.
I was right, the prologue does take place during Stonefur's death. Really reminds me of how when BP's prologue was about Bluefur's death. And yeah, this is kinda what I was expecting from Leopardstar's mindset at this time.
I'm hoping we actually see Skyheart mature. God was she horrid as a kit! And looks like they remembered Leopardkit being a drypaw (or at least foreshadowing it; Skykit was holding her down, after all, so I'm sure this incident contributed to her initial fear of water). Mudfur's great so far, though.
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Post by Moonblazer on Aug 11, 2021 7:51:36 GMT -5
I actually really like this so far. Mudfur is a King per usual, and I like that Leopardstar’s motivation so far in the first scene was to make her clan stronger to survive dangers no matter the cost rather than some silly romance for Tigerstar. I can tell she’s going to be extremely flawed but extremely dedicated, which is what she’s always been, so I’m excited to see more of her thoughts.
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Post by vectoring34 on Aug 11, 2021 8:39:33 GMT -5
And starting off strong with Stormfur time travelling in on the second page.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Aug 11, 2021 9:09:22 GMT -5
"I will make RiverClan strong... but at what cost?" I'm glad to see Leopardstar's perspective on the Bonehill situation- RiverClan truly was vulnerable and suffering and I can see how she'd fall sway to Tigerstar's promises. And it made the prologue kind of more upsetting to read.
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Post by Moonblazer on Aug 11, 2021 9:42:31 GMT -5
I will say, whoever wrote these Allegiances needs to be fired, no cap.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 11, 2021 10:05:46 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this, it was a more enjoyable read than I was expecting. As it stands, I still don't really feel much sympathy for Leopardstar unless she was on her last life or something, but even then.. I guess I'll just have to see what happens in the rest of the book. I really liked how Loudkit and Reedkit stood up for Sedgekit, and Mudfur was awesome like always. Skykit though... she makes Shrewkit seem like a saint.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 11, 2021 10:10:34 GMT -5
I will say, whoever wrote these Allegiances needs to be fired, no cap. Agreed! Not to mention, not only are there all the mistakes that Cinder pointed out, but they also have Wolfstep in the allegiances, but they still don't have a full description for him, it's just 'tom with a torn ear.' Like they could have just added one word in there maybe silver tom with a torn ear or something. I know he's not an important character, especially not in this book, but it doesn't seem that difficult to me to add a little bit into the description.
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Post by briarfrost on Aug 11, 2021 10:53:30 GMT -5
Thanks for posting! Holy moly Skykit is a little sociopath in the making. Holding your foster sister’s head underwater until she almost drowns just because of a game? That’s Gregor Clegane levels of disproportionate retribution right there.
I like Leopardstar’s perspective during the Bone Hill, plus the continuity nod to ASiR with Featherpaw specifically giving her a betrayed look. Selling out her Clan because she genuinely thinks it’s the only way for them to survive fits her personality better and is more understandable than having a crush.
Crookedjaw giving her a ride on his shoulders was precious, and Mudfur wants to be counted among the Best Dads I see.
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Post by dreamingof on Aug 11, 2021 11:37:59 GMT -5
Boy, that allegiance was a trip! Thistleclaw is an apprentice but Whitekit is already born? Mousefur and Runningwind are full grown adults when they're Mistystar & Stonefur's age?
The story is great so far though, I've missed these prequel super editions.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 11, 2021 12:33:05 GMT -5
Yay, finally. Thanks for posting. Also, these allegiances are terrible. Going through them now (I'm also not putting them in spoiler tags).
RiverClan: Luckily, Petaldust is a warrior here. In the RD allegiances she was listed as an apprentice, so I'm glad that one is at least fixed. Mudthorn? He was only ever in the allegiances for Tallstar's Revenge, so him being listed was quite a surprise. Grasswhisker... well, I guess we finally have a gender. But, she's the daughter of Sunfish and Beetlenose according to the family tree. Sunfish is a kit here. Grasswhisker is also a kit when CP ended.
ThunderClan: Ooh, boy. That's a lot of mistakes. First of all, Mousefur and Runningwind aren't even born yet. They are kits at the same time as Mistystar and Stonefur. Why is Willowpelt there? No, no. She is also not born yet (had to look on the events timeline, but she is born after Pinestar leaves). I wonder if anyone realized that Whitestorm was on here twice, once as a warrior and once as a kit. The kit one the correct one. At least, he was born the same season as Leopardstar. Speaking of which, his father, Thistleclaw, is for some reason listed as an apprentice. So's Rosetail, but I don't exactly remember when she became warrior. I only remember that she was the last cat Pinestar named warrior before leaving. Sweetpaw died after Tigerstar was born true, but reading the wiki over here and it seems she died before Whitestorm was even born. Same season. Hey, look! They actually remembered Stonepelt!
ShadowClan: Wolfstep still doesn't have a description. Oh, and to those who don't know, Wolfstep is also on the family tree with no description. They just never gave him one. Poor thing. There's no Brightflower or Russetfur listed. Cloudpelt should be an apprentice soon. He's older than Sunfish and Frogleap. Actually, scratch that. He should already be an apprentice as his mentor is already deputy.
WindClan: First off, Shrewclaw is already dead by this point and Ryestalk already had his kits. Mudclaw and Tornear were kits in RD true, but that was also a mistake as they should be much older then they were there. There's no Cloudrunner, yet he is apparently supposed to be Gorsepaw's father so that would have to mean he would still be alive. Also, no Lilywhisker, Flailfoot or Flamepelt, but... *shrugs* Deadfoot is actually shown as warrior in PC when TC and WC are fighting. Also, once again, Pigeonpaw and Sorrelpaw are already warriors by this point. Palebird's second litter are already warrior by this point as well. They were born the same season as Leopardfoot and Patchpelt. Though, I am happy to know that the rest of the litter also survived kithood and to finally have mentors for all four of them.
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Aroace
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Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Aug 11, 2021 12:52:37 GMT -5
Somebody better fix these glaring mistakes before the book gets released because this is just embarrassing to see.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Aug 11, 2021 13:08:32 GMT -5
im not reading the sample....but i was wondering whos the POV on the prologue?
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 11, 2021 13:15:14 GMT -5
Now onto the book: Looks like the prologue takes place during Stonefur's death scene. They remembered that the scene took place during leaf-bare. Leopardstar thought that Tigerstar was only going to banish Stone, Misty, Feather and Storm. Sorry, you misjudged Tigerstar's character. Then we have Leopardstar's inner monologue. She clearly does feel guilty, but she never did anything to stop this. Not once.
Now back to Leopardkit in the season she was born in, green-leaf. So she's not that old here. Sedgekit, Reedkit and Loudkit are all really close, which makes sense. I've always loved Sunfish, though we never saw much of her. Seeing little Sunkit sticking up for Leopardkit is adorable. I always saw these two as really good friends because of the old warriors app.
You, know. I've always liked Skyheart's name. But she's just being cruel and a bully in a sense. She could've drowned Leopardkit and doesn't even seem to care. And Skykit saying that she and Blackkit don't like playing with Leopardkit and only do so because Shimmerpelt makes them. It's not even her fault that Brightsky died! Poor Leopardkit. She's not going to the DF for her mother's death. It was something not even in her control. She should've told Shimmerpelt. That's not just something newborn kits do.
Like I said, I really like Sunkit. She's the only one inviting Leopardkit to play moss-ball with her and the other kits.
Mudfur is a great father. And we have confirmation that Brightsky was the cat to give him that dream. Though, they got his eve colour wrong. In MS it was golden, while here it's yellow.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 11, 2021 13:16:02 GMT -5
im not reading the sample....but i was wondering whos the POV on the prologue? Leopardstar.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Aug 11, 2021 14:42:22 GMT -5
im not reading the sample....but i was wondering whos the POV on the prologue? Leopardstar. ty
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Post by Fireleap on Aug 11, 2021 14:45:43 GMT -5
Also, once again, Pigeonpaw and Sorrelpaw are already warriors by this point. It's like they're purposefully refusing to give poor Pigeonpaw and Sorrelpaw their warrior names at this point.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Aug 11, 2021 15:14:20 GMT -5
i forgot to ask....do we now know when the book takes place?
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 11, 2021 15:19:32 GMT -5
Actually, I want to go on a little tangent about Cloudpelt. He is listed as a kit here and an apprentice in the allegiances for RD. But there's a slight problem. According to YS, Cloudpelt was the apprentice Raggedstar had when he first became deputy. The events timeline on the wiki for some reason has Raggedstar's promotion and Cloudpelt being born in the same season. Then we have the BOTC story "The Runaway" which shows Cloudpelt as an apprentice alongside Bluestar, Thistleclaw and Lionheart.
Also, I don't remember exactly, but wasn't Cloudpelt already an apprentice when Boulder and Russetfur became warriors? Boulder is already listed as a warrior here.
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Aroace
#ffa100
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Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Aug 11, 2021 15:19:58 GMT -5
i forgot to ask....do we now know when the book takes place? It's apparently supposed to give a full view on Leopardstar's life from start to finish.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 11, 2021 15:20:31 GMT -5
i forgot to ask....do we now know when the book takes place? It starts with Leopardstar as a kit in the same season she was born.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Aug 11, 2021 15:20:42 GMT -5
i forgot to ask....do we now know when the book takes place? It's apparently supposed to give a full view on Leopardstar's life from start to finish. Ok ty
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Post by Mau Furlong on Aug 11, 2021 15:21:01 GMT -5
i forgot to ask....do we now know when the book takes place? It starts with Leopardstar as a kit in the same season she was born. ok ty for the info!
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 11, 2021 15:31:42 GMT -5
I will say, whoever wrote these Allegiances needs to be fired, no cap. Agreed! Not to mention, not only are there all the mistakes that Cinder pointed out, but they also have Wolfstep in the allegiances, but they still don't have a full description for him, it's just 'tom with a torn ear.' Like they could have just added one word in there maybe silver tom with a torn ear or something. I know he's not an important character, especially not in this book, but it doesn't seem that difficult to me to add a little bit into the description. I headcanon Wolfstep as the tabby tom with a torn ear that we see in Moonrise. This cat was never given a name, but he was from ShadowClan.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 11, 2021 15:36:05 GMT -5
Agreed! Not to mention, not only are there all the mistakes that Cinder pointed out, but they also have Wolfstep in the allegiances, but they still don't have a full description for him, it's just 'tom with a torn ear.' Like they could have just added one word in there maybe silver tom with a torn ear or something. I know he's not an important character, especially not in this book, but it doesn't seem that difficult to me to add a little bit into the description. I headcanon Wolfstep as the tabby tom with a torn ear that we in Moonrise. This cat was never given a name, but he was from ShadowClan. That's a solid headcanon, a tabby tom with a torn ear reminds me of Tornear because that was his description for a long time in the allegiances, maybe even the whole time, but we know he's grey. Though with Wolfstep and Deerfoot, who knows?
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Post by Pixie on Aug 11, 2021 16:01:18 GMT -5
Would not be surprised if Leopardstar ended up becoming a favorite of mine after this book.
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Post by Hollyfall on Aug 11, 2021 16:39:10 GMT -5
I honestly really appreciate that they show how close Mudfur and Leopardstar are, and acknowledging that he spoils her. Mudfur's a great dad.
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Post by Fireleap on Aug 11, 2021 17:11:10 GMT -5
Would not be surprised if Leopardstar ended up becoming a favorite of mine after this book. I really dislike Leopardstar, but I can see myself liking her after giving this a read. LH gives me early SE vibes so far, which I'm a big fan of.
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Post by Rainfire on Aug 11, 2021 17:14:56 GMT -5
I only let myself read the prologue, but I thought it was great.
Seeing Leopardstar's POV and mindset from this moment is interesting and even makes me want to wince at parts("The half-clan cats must die" just...damn), I'm glad the horribleness of her decisions isn't being downplayed or brushed-off, and it's thankfully not laden with any "oh I know this is wrong but I'm in love with Tigerstar so I'll just go with what he says </3" crap like I was fearing; her main motivation being fear for her clan and wanting to keep them strong to survive is much better imo.
This book is gonna make me love Leopardstar even more than I already do, I just know it. I'm very hype for it to come out now and I can't wait to keep seeing Leopard's character and flaws and everything that led up to the Bonehill scene from her own POV.
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