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Post by Chicken on Aug 10, 2021 10:29:33 GMT -5
I miss the days when SEs and novellas weren't strongly tied to the main plot, where you didn't need to read every book to understand what was going on, where the plot of an arc wasn't decided based off of events in one SE. This is why prequel books are the best IMO.
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Post by cygna on Aug 10, 2021 10:35:45 GMT -5
Agree with what you said there about wishing that they weren’t so heavily tied to the main plot. I used to like being able to read a self contained story that I didn’t need four books of context for.
I like prequel books. Everyone except Star Flower is amazing there.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 10, 2021 10:37:19 GMT -5
Agree with what you said there about wishing that they weren’t so heavily tied to the main plot. I used to like being able to read a self contained story that I didn’t need four books of context for. I like prequel books. Everyone except Star Flower is amazing there. Same! I also hate how they killed off an important character like Leafpool in an SE. This is starting to remind me of the sims and My First Pet Stuff.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Aug 10, 2021 11:41:17 GMT -5
Big agree about SEs and Novellas now often getting tied to the arcs still ongoing plot. The next one to come out (Leopardstar's Honor) will go back to the original ways of SEs having their own story. So I'm hoping that this stays for a while and doesn't immeadiately (or preferably ever) change again afterwards.
Although I still really like Graystripe's Vow because of the contrast between past ThunderClan in the old forest and modern ThunderClan at the lake, having such a concept in every SE would get old rather soon.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the SEs detailing a cats whole life or at least it leading up to certain points in the series like it was with Bluestar's Prophecy, Crookedstar's Promise, Yellowfang's Secret and Tallstar's Revenge. But the ones focusing on just one adventure or time in the protagonists life can also be great. Firestar's Quest is my favorite SE (though that's probably a lot due to nostalgia).
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Post by Chicken on Aug 10, 2021 11:46:25 GMT -5
Big agree about SEs and Novellas now often getting tied to the arcs still ongoing plot. The next one to come out ( Leopardstar's Honor) will go back to the original ways of SEs having their own story. So I'm hoping that this stays for a while and doesn't immeadiately (or preferably ever) change again afterwards. Although I still really like Graystripe's Vow because of the contrast between past ThunderClan in the old forest and modern ThunderClan at the lake, having such a concept in every SE would get old rather soon. Personally, I'm a big fan of the SEs detailing a cats whole life or at least it leading up to certain points in the series like it was with Bluestar's Prophecy, Crookedstar's Promise, Yellowfang's Secret and Tallstar's Revenge. But the ones focusing on just one adventure or time in the protagonists life can also be great. Firestar's Quest is my favorite SE (though that's probably a lot due to nostalgia). I completely agree with everything in your post! I usually like when SEs detail a cats whole life from kithood to death, but SkyClan's Destiny was just about one event (and I usually dislike SEs/Novellas like that) but it was my favorite SE. Same with Tigerclaw's Fury being my favorite novella. I guess I don't dislike them, I just prefer the birth to death ones.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Aug 10, 2021 17:32:08 GMT -5
I honestly find prequels kind of boring (looking at the poll, is this just me lmao) and I prefer reading an in-depth story about a modern cat's own character and experiences and whatnot. I actually don't mind that the modern SE's tie into the main story- it makes the SE and main story even more interesting to read.
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Post by Rainsplash on Aug 10, 2021 18:51:08 GMT -5
Ugh they make me waste my money. When I actually read them I know I shouldn't have bought this. I would've gone along fine without reading this. Who the heck would you think is Stormcloud if you don't read BrS? But I didn't need to. I prefer reading about the older days, they're more interesting anyway.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 10, 2021 18:54:35 GMT -5
Ugh they make me waste my money. When I actually read them I know I shouldn't have bought this. I would've gone along fine without reading this. Who the heck would you think is Stormcloud if you don't read BrS? But I didn't need to. I prefer reading about the older days, they're more interesting anyway. Totally agree about Stormcloud, like he wouldn't even be a character if not for the SEs because he gets nothing in the actual books. I know I've said this before, but when I read AVOS, I thought that Stormcloud was Stormfur and I had mis-remembered his name (I hadn't read Bramblestar's Storm before that) Before I knew the importance of SEs/Novellas and how they tie into the main plot a lot of the times, I read the main arcs before reading the novellas and SEs.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 10, 2021 21:32:46 GMT -5
I like it when the SEs are optional. There's a lot of them and they're really long compared to the regular books so it makes my life easier knowing that I only have to read some of them to make sense of the story. Plus not everyone cares about Leopardstar or Graystripe or whoever the POV cat is. Also, I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to kill Leafpool in an SE...like really, you can't think of a good death for her in the main series books?? She's one of the most well-known, loved characters in the series and they decided to kill her in an SE. :I I agree 100% with this whole entire post. I like Graystripe, but I haven't read his SE yet, so I'm probably missing how Thornclaw got home, if it's even in there. The reason I haven't read it yet, because from the spoilers, it seems that after like chapter five, everyone except Flipclaw goes their separate ways, which I was really disappointed about, I was really looking forward to get to know more about these characters that you don't really know much of, even Thornclaw, despite being around since the first arc, there's really not much known about his actual personality other than that he's an idiotic jerk, so I was looking forward to him getting more focus as well as the other cats who went, but instead they departed early. The scenes with Barley seemed really amazing though. I do plan on reading it eventually, but I'm not going to knock down any doors to do so, but tbf, that could be said any book these days.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Aug 11, 2021 5:14:06 GMT -5
I don't care, as long as it's well-written. But in general, my preference leans towards the older books.
It's a great opportunity to explore cats' lives we don't know much about. The main characters already get many books and arcs about themselves, even if it's not from their POV. Extending their plots sometimes feels like dragging them out, especially stretching them in such a large book. But reading about the less shown characters is always a lot more interesting, because you don't know as much about them and there's a lot more the author can do with it.
And the prequels feel more about a cat's life while the moderns feel more like just a cat's journey.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 11, 2021 10:27:35 GMT -5
I don't care, as long as it's well-written. But in general, my preference leans towards the older books. It's a great opportunity to explore cats' lives we don't know much about. The main characters already get many books and arcs about themselves, even if it's not from their POV. Extending their plots sometimes feels like dragging them out, especially stretching them in such a large book. But reading about the less shown characters is always a lot more interesting, because you don't know as much about them and there's a lot more the author can do with it. And the prequels feel more about a cat's life while the moderns feel more like just a cat's journey. This def goes in the top ten truest posts I've ever read on here, and I could not agree more.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 12, 2021 14:56:17 GMT -5
I don't mind modern ones, but ones that directly insert in the middle of the main story, or holds vital information you wouldn't know about in the main series unless you read the SE, are trash. Which is why Squirrelflight's Hope and Tigerheart's Shadow are easily the worst SE's written so far.
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Post by Chicken on Aug 12, 2021 18:29:31 GMT -5
I don't mind modern ones, but ones that directly insert in the middle of the main story, or holds vital information you wouldn't know about in the main series unless you read the SE, are trash. Which is why Squirrelflight's Hope and Tigerheart's Shadow are easily the worst SE's written so far. Agreed! I remember when I was reading AVOS, I kept wondering what happened to Slatefur, because he just straight up disappeared with no explanation, but then he came back.
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