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Post by Aqua on Jul 25, 2021 15:01:51 GMT -5
I noticed that people who like Ivypool also really like Nightcloud. So for this poll, you have to pick one only!
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Aroace
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 25, 2021 15:07:22 GMT -5
Ivypool always. Sorry Nightcloud.
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Post by Rainfire on Jul 25, 2021 15:11:18 GMT -5
Ivypool for sure, mainly because we've seen so much more of her. But I really love Nightcloud too~
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Post by Chicken on Jul 25, 2021 15:20:27 GMT -5
I'm honestly neutral on both, like I can sympathize with both of their predicaments, but I just don't really care much for either of them as cats. However, I have a feeling that most people will vote for Ivypool, so I'm going to give my vote to the underdog Nightcloud.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Jul 25, 2021 16:56:54 GMT -5
Ivypool. On the grounds I never liked Nightcloud that much.
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Asexual
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 25, 2021 19:06:58 GMT -5
I'm decidedly neutral/like on Ivypool and I don't like Nightcloud at all. So, Ivypool it is.
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Post by Rainsplash on Jul 25, 2021 19:15:43 GMT -5
Ivypool by a mile
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Post by Mothdapple on Jul 25, 2021 19:31:56 GMT -5
I like Ivypool and dislike/hate Nightcloud, so I think this is obvious.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 25, 2021 19:47:38 GMT -5
I like both of them alot, but Ivypool wins for me.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jul 25, 2021 20:43:40 GMT -5
I like Ivypool and am neutral on Nightcloud, so Ivypool
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 25, 2021 22:23:18 GMT -5
I like both, but Ivy has more screen time so I guess her by default.
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Post by Fireleap on Jul 25, 2021 22:29:22 GMT -5
I love Nightcloud, so this was an easy choice.
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Post by cygna on Jul 25, 2021 22:52:02 GMT -5
Nightcloud.
I don't hate Ivy but she isn't a fav. I want to like her but she hasn't worked for me.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jul 26, 2021 5:05:10 GMT -5
Ivypool, but I do really like Nightcloud.
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Post by crowspirit on Jul 26, 2021 5:36:12 GMT -5
I don't get why some people like Nightcloud so much. From what I've seen, they love the idea of fanon Nightcloud way more than the Nightcloud we actually have in the books. And I think Ivypool is a way more interesting, developed and relatable characters than canon Nightcloud.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 26, 2021 5:58:43 GMT -5
I don't get why some people like Nightcloud so much. From what I've seen, they love the idea of fanon Nightcloud way more than the Nightcloud we actually have in the books. And I think Ivypool is a way more interesting, developed and relatable characters than canon Nightcloud. I mean, she’s got a personality rather than being cardboard, she’s a very dedicated Warrior to her clan, she jumped into a fire to help save cats from a Clan that wasn’t her own, she was great in CT and maturely handled her issues with Crowfeather, and honestly she’s always been more than just the “mean, nasty girlfriend” that this fandom paints her out to be. That, and people can like or dislike characters for any reason they like.
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Post by Aqua on Jul 26, 2021 6:06:43 GMT -5
I don't get why some people like Nightcloud so much. From what I've seen, they love the idea of fanon Nightcloud way more than the Nightcloud we actually have in the books. And I think Ivypool is a way more interesting, developed and relatable characters than canon Nightcloud. I mean, she’s got a personality rather than being cardboard, she’s a very dedicated Warrior to her clan, she jumped into a fire to help save cats from a Clan that wasn’t her own, she was great in CT and maturely handled her issues with Crowfeather, and honestly she’s always been more than just the “mean, nasty girlfriend” that this fandom paints her out to be. That, and people can like or dislike characters for any reason they like. People see her as a "mean, nasty person" because she's aggressive and claws other cats and acts really cold. Maybe you personally don't see her that way, but a lot of other people do and they're annoyed that a lot of people defend her behavior because others were terrible to her. Frankly I'm just not gonna defend someone who acts like that because someone treats her like shit. Sorry.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 26, 2021 7:24:36 GMT -5
I mean, she’s got a personality rather than being cardboard, she’s a very dedicated Warrior to her clan, she jumped into a fire to help save cats from a Clan that wasn’t her own, she was great in CT and maturely handled her issues with Crowfeather, and honestly she’s always been more than just the “mean, nasty girlfriend” that this fandom paints her out to be. That, and people can like or dislike characters for any reason they like. People see her as a "mean, nasty person" because she's aggressive and claws other cats and acts really cold. Maybe you personally don't see her that way, but a lot of other people do and they're annoyed that a lot of people defend her behavior because others were terrible to her. Frankly I'm just not gonna defend someone who acts like that because someone treats her like shit. Sorry. I just think it’s kind of silly to get all up in arms about people liking Nightcloud. Nobody’s defending anything, some people just like a character??? Not sure why it’s a big deal??? God forbid, can’t like anything these days can we? And alot of people don’t see her as a nasty person. Sorry.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 26, 2021 7:32:45 GMT -5
Watch out guys. Apparently it’s illegal to like Nightcloud at all. Board the windows and hide the drawings of a singular Windclan warrior who isn’t a perfect angel baby, it’s absolutely appalling that we do not hate her guts. Make sure to have your 10 page essay ready to justify why you like a flawed character, but be ready to be completely ignored and questioned for liking her as a character XD In fact, you may as well leave the forums if you even so much as feel any kind of non-negative way towards her.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 26, 2021 8:40:55 GMT -5
I just think it’s kind of silly to get all up in arms about people liking Nightcloud. Nobody’s defending anything, some people just like a character??? Not sure why it’s a big deal??? God forbid, can’t like anything these days can we? And alot of people don’t see her as a nasty person. Sorry. Okay you don't have to be like that. This person wasn't even getting worked up like you claim they are, they're just saying they don't understand why people like Nightcloud and I was explaining to you why some fans don't. And before I get 5,000 people angry at me for "being angry" about fictional cats, just leave me alone. It's not the fictional book cats I'm frustrated about but the way how a lot of people misunderstand each other and then get pissed when it comes to these stupid characters on here. There was no issue before you came in though lol. I was saying why some people liked her, that was it. You came in mixing up the situation when nobody was referring to you. There was no argument or debate, and not a single person was defending Nightcloud’s actions. I like her because she jumped into a fire to save Riverclan cats lmao. Not sure why it’s so wild that people may like her instead of despising her. And I wasn’t referring to the first person as getting worked up. That was more directed to you. I and other people like Nightcloud and we shouldn’t have to constantly justify why we do.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 26, 2021 8:54:32 GMT -5
Needless to say, to return back to the topic, both of these she-cats have realistic flaws and I appreciate that. Ivypool is closer to my heart, but shoutout to the people who like Nightcloud too.
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Post by Aqua on Jul 26, 2021 9:40:16 GMT -5
People see her as a "mean, nasty person" because she's aggressive and claws other cats and acts really cold. Maybe you personally don't see her that way, but a lot of other people do and they're annoyed that a lot of people defend her behavior because others were terrible to her. Frankly I'm just not gonna defend someone who acts like that because someone treats her like shit. Sorry. I just think it’s kind of silly to get all up in arms about people liking Nightcloud. Nobody’s defending anything, some people just like a character??? Not sure why it’s a big deal??? God forbid, can’t like anything these days can we? And alot of people don’t see her as a nasty person. Sorry. Responded through via discord
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jul 26, 2021 9:42:09 GMT -5
Don't like either, but i prefer Ivypool.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 26, 2021 14:37:39 GMT -5
I don't get why some people like Nightcloud so much. From what I've seen, they love the idea of fanon Nightcloud way more than the Nightcloud we actually have in the books. And I think Ivypool is a way more interesting, developed and relatable characters than canon Nightcloud. I mean, she’s got a personality rather than being cardboard, she’s a very dedicated Warrior to her clan, she jumped into a fire to help save cats from a Clan that wasn’t her own, she was great in CT and maturely handled her issues with Crowfeather, and honestly she’s always been more than just the “mean, nasty girlfriend” that this fandom paints her out to be. That, and people can like or dislike characters for any reason they like. She also defended ShadowClan and was against them disbanding, along side Leafpool of all cats. People don't give her enough credit imo and just always bring up her only worst moment.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 26, 2021 14:41:50 GMT -5
I mean, she’s got a personality rather than being cardboard, she’s a very dedicated Warrior to her clan, she jumped into a fire to help save cats from a Clan that wasn’t her own, she was great in CT and maturely handled her issues with Crowfeather, and honestly she’s always been more than just the “mean, nasty girlfriend” that this fandom paints her out to be. That, and people can like or dislike characters for any reason they like. She also defended ShadowClan and was against them disbanding, along side Leafpool of all cats. People don't give her enough credit imo and just always bring up her only worst moment. Ohhh I remember that part! Her and Leafpool sticking up for Shadowclan side by side was cool, that’s what we call g r o w t h!
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Jul 26, 2021 15:47:56 GMT -5
Hello y'all! I noticed things got a bit heated earlier today. I just wanted to remind everyone of two things: There's a difference between debate and opinion. If an opinion rubs you the wrong way, please return to it after you've had time to consider it. I noticed that emotions seemed, at least from my reading, to get a bit high/salty. While I understand that Nightcloud is a highly debated figure, consider whether or not anything good will actually come from debating her.
The second is moving on in a timely fashion. A 'agree to disagree' will move things along much quicker to ending a difference of opinion than anything else. At this time, I wont be locking this thread, but consider taking a step back from the conversation and returning when you're in a better mindset.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Jul 26, 2021 15:49:35 GMT -5
So a side, 'petty' reason why I like Ivypool over Nightcloud, if anyone wants to discuss, is Ivypool has a whole lot of hecking cool fan art! If anyone knows any cool Nightcloud MAPs/AMVs/etc. or the like, can you point me to them? Because I haven't really fallen in love with any of the fandom made stuff yet.
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Post by downfalls on Jul 26, 2021 20:22:02 GMT -5
i like ivypool but dislike nightcloud. she was possessive over crowfeather and coddled breezepelt too much.
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