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Post by Chicken on Jul 24, 2021 15:44:00 GMT -5
Remind me why she's a great character.
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Post by ๐ฅFirestar๐ฅ on Jul 24, 2021 16:36:45 GMT -5
She's a very human character. Wich you don't see in many characters-- they're either pure jerks or plain noble cats.
For example, while she can be self-righteous, she always makes poor decisions executing her ideas and handles them wrong. That proves her character is not perfect and she does have her flaws.
She can have her mature and innmature moments. She's incredibly mature while raising The Three, handling the situation with Brambleclaw and Leafpool, and even being deputy in BrS. Homever, she sometimes slips up and handles things wrong, giving her some innmature moments.
She can also get a bit jealous, but it she dosen't let it show too much and even accepts that Brambleclaw might be in love with Jessy.
She's also a great mentor to Foxleap and Stormcloud, a great mother and sister, and a good deputy in her most mature moments.
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Post by ๐ฅFirestar๐ฅ on Jul 24, 2021 16:56:17 GMT -5
Also, her character design. Just imagine a super cute cat with the bonus of having a super fluffy bushy squirrel-like tail. So adorable!
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Post by แนขanษypawโข on Jul 24, 2021 17:09:19 GMT -5
Literally everything you said, ๐ฅFirestar๐ฅ! Not to mention Squirrelflight's really brave. If I were in her place in the fire scene, I think I would have just broken down crying. But not Squirrelflight, she stood her ground and didn't let Ashfur upset her (or know she was upset!) I really admired her for doing that, and it's how I started to like her a lot.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jul 24, 2021 17:14:13 GMT -5
She actually is a solid character, I think people like you and I are just sick of seeing her at this point.
Having just reread the first two books of TNP, I really appreciate her character growth from an annoying entitled brat to someone who's seen some shit and just wants to care for her family. She goes through this transformation while keeping her feisty personality intact. Even though she wasn't a main character in those books, her growth was clear and wonderful to see.
Not gonna talk about TBC because frankly I don't have the energy. She was cool in the first four arcs, I'll leave it at that.
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Post by Chicken on Jul 24, 2021 17:16:41 GMT -5
Skypaw13Oh def, like 75% of my ire towards Squirrelflight is that she's still around and relevant, I have the exact same bitterness towards Crowfeather, Mothwing, Tawnypelt, Bramblestar, etc. I know I say they all need to die already, but part of me wouldn't mind if they were still alive as long as they shifted the focus to the newer cats more. Like, it doesn't really bother me that Cloudtail, Brightheart, Brackenfur, etc are still alive, even though they're much older, because I don't see them as much, but it would be good if they got called to StarClan by now, especially Brackenfur this poor guy.
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Post by downfalls on Jul 24, 2021 19:55:15 GMT -5
she's realistic in her own way and has her flaws. she's not perfect but everyone has their awkward and immature moments, even she does.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jul 24, 2021 21:10:03 GMT -5
She's a very flawed but also realistic character imo and I love her for it. She's basically in the same area of Dovewing for me, very flawed, but still managing to endear me, and is also a very unpopular fave to have around here.
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Post by Rainsplash on Jul 25, 2021 0:20:54 GMT -5
She's an amazing sister to Leafpool
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jul 25, 2021 0:56:59 GMT -5
She's flawed, but she's brave, loyal, and loving. She's always willing to sacrifice for the cats around her and stands up for what she thinks is right, even if she doesn't do it in the right way all the time. I also really appreciate her relationship with Leafpool.
I understand being ignored with her focus (that's 50% of the reason I'm sick of Mothwing), but I think she's a solid character. I do think it'd be nice if she got to retire to the elder's den and spend the rest of her days playing with grandkits and maybe helping in the nursery
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Post by Chicken on Jul 25, 2021 1:27:25 GMT -5
She's flawed, but she's brave, loyal, and loving. She's always willing to sacrifice for the cats around her and stands up for what she thinks is right, even if she doesn't do it in the right way all the time. I also really appreciate her relationship with Leafpool. I understand being ignored with her focus (that's 50% of the reason I'm sick of Mothwing), but I think she's a solid character. I do think it'd be nice if she got to retire to the elder's den and spend the rest of her days playing with grandkits and maybe helping in the nursery That would actually be really adorable. I feel bad for her, that she was so excited about Finch and Flame, but now with all this stuff going on, she hasn't really had any time to spend with them, and they're already practically grown. Daisy and Squirrelflight helping to raise kits together in the clan would be really interesting to read about. I can totally see Squirrelflight as being someone who convinces kits to pull mischievous pranks on the warriors XD
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Post by ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ๐จ๐ฅ on Jul 25, 2021 1:43:40 GMT -5
Everything what ๐ฅFirestar๐ฅ said ^-^
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jul 25, 2021 1:45:32 GMT -5
She's flawed, but she's brave, loyal, and loving. She's always willing to sacrifice for the cats around her and stands up for what she thinks is right, even if she doesn't do it in the right way all the time. I also really appreciate her relationship with Leafpool. I understand being ignored with her focus (that's 50% of the reason I'm sick of Mothwing), but I think she's a solid character. I do think it'd be nice if she got to retire to the elder's den and spend the rest of her days playing with grandkits and maybe helping in the nursery That would actually be really adorable. I feel bad for her, that she was so excited about Finch and Flame, but now with all this stuff going on, she hasn't really had any time to spend with them, and they're already practically grown. Daisy and Squirrelflight helping to raise kits together in the clan would be really interesting to read about. I can totally see Squirrelflight as being someone who convinces kits to pull mischievous pranks on the warriors XD I would love that. I think she'd be one of those elders who loves playing with the kits, which would be perfect after her SE. I feel like she deserves a break.
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Post by Chicken on Jul 25, 2021 1:53:43 GMT -5
That would actually be really adorable. I feel bad for her, that she was so excited about Finch and Flame, but now with all this stuff going on, she hasn't really had any time to spend with them, and they're already practically grown. Daisy and Squirrelflight helping to raise kits together in the clan would be really interesting to read about. I can totally see Squirrelflight as being someone who convinces kits to pull mischievous pranks on the warriors XD I would love that. I think she'd be one of those elders who loves playing with the kits, which would be perfect after her SE. I feel like she deserves a break. I agree! Honestly, we need more leaders who retire instead of spending years being leader and then eventually killed off tragically.
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Post by crowspirit on Jul 25, 2021 4:05:31 GMT -5
She's, flawed but still brave, loyal and always tries to do the right thing. Even when she makes mistakes, she never does them to deliberately hurt anyone. She also can be self - righteous and immature, but the haters really exaggerate her flaws. Do you want her to be flawless or what?
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on Jul 25, 2021 12:20:39 GMT -5
She's a flawed character which makes her much more likeable to me then someone who is perfect all the time and at everything they do (*looks at Jessy for just a moment*). While her tendency to be written in a way that portrays her as almost always being in the right is often frustrating and the fact that she (and Bramblestar) get shoved into a lot of recent storylines despite already having had plenty moments of glory has become tiring, I still adore Squirrelflight and just want her (and Bramblestar) to finally ascend to StarClan with a completed story arc.
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Post by Chicken on Jul 25, 2021 12:23:44 GMT -5
I agree with everyone saying that they like the fact that Squirrelflight isn't perfect. That's why I don't like Velvet (AVOS) much, she's just so nice, good at pretty much everything she tries, emotionally mature, etc, she was an eye-roll worthy character tbh. Jessy was annoying too, I probably would have actually liked her if she wasn't perfect at everything.
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