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Post by Rainsplash on Jul 23, 2021 2:27:04 GMT -5
Leafpool Hollyleaf Needletail Jagged Peak Silverstream Bristlefrost Dovewing
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 23, 2021 2:37:10 GMT -5
Leafpool: like; I love her story after she falls for Crowfeather and in general, I like how willing she is to help others, even cats from other Clans.
Hollyleaf: like; loved her story arc.
Needletail: like; same as above
Jagged Peak: dislike; he could be a jerk at times, especially after getting together with Holly.
Silverstream: like; her relationship with Graystripe aside, I like how helpful she is.
Bristlefrost: like; I love how dedicated she is when she sets her mind to something.
Dovewing: neutral, though I will say that her character had alot of wasted potential.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 23, 2021 5:32:43 GMT -5
Leafpool: She was an utter brat in TNP, and an annoying sob in OotS. But I'm neutral/like toward her as of AVoS. Hollyleaf: I found her boring at first, but then her turn at the gathering was interesting. But her return is a disappointment and nothing but a waste. Needletail: I don't necessarily hate her, but I don't necessarily love her too. I do think she could have been written better. Jagged Peak: Same as Needletail, but I feel like he gets too much flack from the fandom because of his personality change. Silverstream: I'm personally quite fond of her, liked her while she was alive and after she went to StarClan. Bristlefrost: I don't mind Bristle either, but like Jagged, she seems to get quite a bit of flake from the fandom. Dovewing: Utter waste of a character in general, and honestly she has the worst POV in the main series so far.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jul 23, 2021 5:56:31 GMT -5
Leafpool: I personally found her a bit boring or sometimes slow as an apprentice, but i currently like her.
Hollyleaf: I like her character. It's flawed and interesting.
Needletail:Hate, she's greatly annoying and a disgusting friend.
Silverstream:: Dislike. I've stated this multiple times, but i've always found her annoying, and i don't care for her and her romance, but atleast she's a bit better when she's dead.
Bristlefrost: Dislike. I've always found her character (and her chapters for that matter) to be boring.
Dovewing: Love. She's one of my comfort characters and i've always found her releatable and flawed. She could have been written better though.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jul 23, 2021 6:04:57 GMT -5
Leafpool - Like, a great character with a good story arc Hollyleaf - Like, she was very interesting with good story Needletail - Like-neutral, she was different and interesting, but could be a bit of a jerk at times Jagged Peak - Dislike, he was mean to Gray Wing and Thunder, especially after getting together with Holly Silverstream -Neutral, I felt she was a bit of a brat, but that aside she's fine Bristlefrost - Like, she's my favorite TBC protagonist, she's confident, not worrying about some otherworldly power Dovewing - Like, she gets way too much hate and other than her relationship with Tigerheart, she's decent
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Jul 23, 2021 6:20:08 GMT -5
Leafpool - Like. I really liked her story and character, she was interesting. Hollyleaf - Like. I loved how she was written from kit to warrior Needletail - Neutral. I don't like how she acted towards Violetkit, but she was a fun character Jagged Peak - Neutral. I'm not sure on what I feel about him Silverstream - Like. I liked her attitude and feel like she was a great rival to fireheart in fire and ice. Bristlefrost - Like. Honestly, I really liked her in the first 3 books. I'm sad they aren't doing more with her. Dovewing - Like. I really liked her story and relationships with other cats.
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Post by Mothdapple on Jul 23, 2021 9:20:44 GMT -5
Leafpool: She is a kind-hearted cat who has been through a whole lot… so I like her.
Hollyleaf: I love her! Her character arc is very interesting and I loved her downward spiral in Sunrise and then her eventual return.
Needletail: I like her! Like with Hollyleaf, her character arc was interesting and I love her as a morally gray character. Her final sacrifice was honorable although she wasn’t really the best friend to Violetshine.
Jagged Peak: Neutral. I liked him a lot in the beginning of DOTC and felt bad when he got injured and Clear Sky abandoned him, but he became a bit bothersome later on, especially when he got with Holly.
Silverstream: Neutral. It felt like she only existed to bear Graystripe’s kits then die a tragic death.
Bristlefrost: I like her. Her character is interesting and consistent for the most part. Her POV was really interesting during the impostor Bramblestar times. People argue her character isn’t consistent but she’s ALWAYS been a romantic.
Dovewing: I love her. I see a lot of myself in her and I like how she follows her heart, even though sometimes she should’ve followed her head instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 10:01:28 GMT -5
Leafpool - I can't stand her, I really liked her before the Crowfeather thing. However, she doesn't think with her head and expects everyone else to pick up the pieces. Dislike.
Hollyleaf - Boring AF. Dislike.
Needletail - I thought she was funny until she met The Kin, then she became a brainless brat, I'm glad she came around in the end at least, even if it was a little late. I probably won't get over how she treated Violetshine though. Dislike.
Jagged Peak - I only liked him in like books 2-3, in the first book, he was a brat, but he was also a kit, so eh I won't hold it against him, but once he got with Holly, he became a bit of a jerk. Neutral leaning on dislike.
Silverstream - What a boring character who never goes away despite there being a million other cats in StarClan. Neutral.
Bristlefrost - She's a dedicated and caring cat, who isn't all overly nice or isn't all feisty and I'm better than you. Like
Dovewing - I felt sympathy for how she felt left out in her clan, and I feel bad for her that Ivypool was a rat towards her for something she couldn't even control. However, even though she came clean before her kits were born, thus not completely shattering their trust, and she actually told their father, and didn't use another cat like Bumblestripe was their father or something, she still got some cats dragged into her mess, like Ivypool. I also don't like how she treated Bumblestripe. I know he wasn't the greatest cat at times, but she's no saint in this situation either. Neutral.
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Post by Aqua on Jul 23, 2021 10:25:22 GMT -5
Leafpool: She has learned from her mistakes and became very mature after she returned. She even stood up to Onestar and Rowanstar, calling off their crap for their behavior. That takes a lot of guts, and she's willing to help anyone outside her Clan. She's compassionate and understanding, and very kind. Leafpool is one of my favorite characters.
Needletail: More on the neutral/dislike side, I really don't care for her that much anymore. But I think people overreact about this character a lot. She's pretty horrible to Violetshine, but she does care about her in her own strange ways, and taught her how to hunt and fight for herself. Needletail pretty much raised her, and sacrificed her life to save her. Honestly, my main issue with Needletail is that I wish her character wasn't half-assed. She died way too soon, and it feels so... off to me? She really isn't that well written, which is why she's on the low list for me now. She used to be one of my favorites. Needletail feels inconsistent, and the way how she was written was terrible. I'm more bothered by her writing than the character herself.
Dovewing: She does irritate me at times, I don't like how she ran off with unborn kits, lies to her clan, or blames others for her problems. She may be a bitch, but I see a different side to her. Dovewing is an insecure cat who deals with the prophecy alone, and I don't think it's fair that she was forced to grow up fast like that without a proper apprenticeship. I hate how Jayfeather made her and her sister spy for them, he put on a lot of pressure on the sisters and wasn't sympathetic about it either. The prophecy is really the only reason Dovewing was drawn to Tigerheart, because she was lonely in her clan with friends who only liked her for her powers and not for who she is. So I guess I like Dovewing for her character more than her personality. Her story is interesting to me, especially as a paw. She was put on a lot of pressure when she was younger, and had to go through a lot because of her jealous sister. She always tried to do the right thing, but I can't help but feel like she gave up and stopped caring about the code after she lost her powers. Dovewing left her clan for Tigerheart... And I think a lot of people don't seem to understand that her losing her powers affected her a lot more than we think. She felt useless to the clan for a long time. So I really sympathize with her and her struggles and insecurities, I understand in a way how she feels about feeling useless. I also understand her poor choices she makes, because she was never really raised to make better ones for herself. No one taught her how to make better choices. I just pity her more than like her I suppose. Don't agree with the stupid crap she's done, but I am very empthatic with her and her struggles and loneliness.
Ivypool: She sucks as IvyPAW. She really sucks. I understand that she was manipulated, but she caused a lot of problems on her own. She started a battle that ended two lives, and treated Dovepaw like shit. She didn't listen to her about Tigerstar at all, and avoided Dovepaw a lot. She also blamed Dovepaw for being in the Dark Forest. I've been rereading OotS and her character still pisses me off to this day. I like her SO much more as Ivypool. But Ivypaw just sucks. She's immature, stubborn, a huge brat, and didn't care for anyone but herself at the time. She made poor choices and treated her sister like crap just because Dovepaw wasn't there for her for five minutes. Some might sympathize with her, but I just can't. I don't care if she was a young child or whatever. Ivypaw was very unlikable and not that interesting to me.
But going onto Ivypool: I'm actually enjoying her character much more as a warrior. She's smarter thanks to her DF skills, determined to protect her clan, strong, and cares about her sister. I'm liking her friendship with Hollyleaf, it's a very mature one with Ivypool wanting to understand Hollyleaf and her struggles and to get to know her better. Ivypool killed Antpelt to save the clans, and she was willing to die to protect her sister from Brokenstar. In AVoS she was worried about Dovewing going back to Tigerheart because she's such a douche to her. She's trying to protect her sister and I can sympathize with that a lot more than her crap she went through as Ivypaw. Do I like how she treats Dovewing and Tigerheart? No, not really. But I understand she's worried about Dovewing, especially when Tigerheart was kinda sucky with her about the herbs a long time ago and acts pretty manipulative. I like IvyPOOL a lot more. But IvyPAW sucks ass. Ivypool's behavior is a lot more sympathetic than the crap she pulled when she was younger as a paw. In sorry, I understand she was manipulated, but she treated others like shit and preferred staying in the Dark Forest because of it. She just sucked. I feel like I'm repeating myself at this point. But I guess I'm leaning toward like/neutral for Ivypool. She matured a lot after she realized Tigerstar was using her.
Cinderpelt; She's strong, has strong faith in StarClan, very respectful to her Clanmates, and she's willing to go against the code to help others if she feels it's the right thing to do. She helped Littlecloud and some other cat (I think it was Whitethroat?) and saved their lives. She encouraged Firestar to be with Sandstorm when she could have been selfish and chose not to do that because she loved Firestar too. She never blamed StarClan for anything, not even the warning they gave her about her death. Her faith in StarClan always remained strong. She was very kind to Leafpool even after her apprentice left. She never gave up on Leafpool and knew she would return. Cinderpelt doesn't give up on anyone, or even herself. She's so determined to protect her Clanmates. She means a lot to me and I love her.
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Post by downfalls on Jul 23, 2021 10:33:17 GMT -5
leafpool: like, borderline strong like. wasn't boring and enjoyable to read about.
hollyleaf: love. she's well developed and not a pain to read about, and she's actually able to make me feel sorry for her.
needletail: slight dislike, bordering on hate. horrible friend and annoying as hell.
jagged peak: neutral. he can be a jerk but i always found him tolerable.
silverstream: i like her pretty well. her relationship with greystripe was good to read about, and i like her personality.
bristlefrost: like, borderline neutral. i like her personality and relationship with rootspring.
dovewing: dislike. loads of wasted potential, and i always found her extremely whiny.
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Post by Rainfire on Jul 23, 2021 11:18:23 GMT -5
Leafpool - Like; she's kind, caring, and mature
Hollyleaf - love; interesting, flawed, and has a great arc imo
Needletail - love; she's horrible as a cat in many ways, but she's just sooooo interesting to read to about
Jagged Peak - Neutral; I haven't skimmed through DOTC in awhile, but I remember getting annoyed by him sometimes
Silverstream - love; especially while she was alive. I loved how brash but kind she could be
Bristlefrost - like; I don't like her as much as I did when TBC first started, but she's still awesome. I loved seeing ThunderClan led by Imposterstar from her POV, and I honestly like it when her POVs focus on romance too lol
Dovewing - my favorite <3 I love her soooo much and while I too wish some things regarding her had been written differently, I love how flawed she is and she's very relatable for me personally
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jul 23, 2021 12:02:11 GMT -5
Leafpool - Neutral, I never enjoyed her chapters and I never really felt something when reading or talking about her.
Hollyleaf - Dislike, she was a huge hyprocrite, and although I liked her ambitions, I never grew to like her.
Needletail - idk, she irritated me, and she is a horrible person, but she is incredibly interesing.
Jagged Peak - Dislike, dude became a huge d!ck, he hurted Gray Wing in the same way other cats hurted him (by pointing out his disabilities), and he just sucked.
Silverstream - Boring, a brat, I'm just neutral on her.
Bristlefrost - Like, she is amazing
Dovewing - She is a very complex character. Like.
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Post by whiteflight on Jul 24, 2021 2:06:15 GMT -5
Leafpool - I love Leafpool because she's calm and caring. I love her romance with Crowfeather and I love how when the truth went out she was still there to help her kits even if they hated her. She's a strong person and it broke my heart when I heard that she died.
Hollyleaf - I like her arc how she goes crazy because she learned that jef birth broke two codes and when she comes back she matures and finally forgives Leafpool for what happened. She would have also been a good villian if the Erins decided to take that path.
Needletail - Since I stopped reading warriors after DoTC I'll give out my opinion of what I heard about Needletail. I hate her. She seems like a really rude, bossy, annoying cat. Imo she viewed (forgot her name) as a prize that she should keep just because she was the one who found the kits. She lead her clan to fall by siding with Darktail and once her lover dies she finally sees how evil Darktail really is. Imo just because she sacrificed herself for someone else doesn't mean she's redeem from everything she did.
Jagged Peak - I don't really remember much about him so he's neutral.
Silverstream - I like Silverstream cause she's not like Spottedleaf. She wants Graystripe to be happy even if it means that he gets a second mate. She was a bit of a brat when she was alive but she did help Firestar on finding out the truth on how Oakheart died.
Bristlefrost - Don't know much about them so they're neutral.
Dovewing - Hate her a lot. Imo her whole arc was just about "I love Tigerheart" she kept breaking it off and on with him and then uses Bumble to try and replace Tigerheart which makes everything even more worse. I was happy when she decided to just stay as a single female but once she secretly got pregnant again and ran away from the clans I decided she's in my hate forever.
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Aroace
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 24, 2021 12:24:42 GMT -5
Leafpool I really like Leafpool because she has proven many times to be a kind cat at heart who went through a lot and grew from facing some crucial hardships in life. Her level of emotional maturity when she became older also made me fond of her development despite the fact that I thought she was rather boring as a younger cat when I was a child.
Hollyleaf I love Hollyleaf! She was already very different as a character in her early days during the PoT arc and her eventual downfall was an interesting storyline. I just wish the way which she came back in the OotS arc hadn't made her feel so broken/turned her into this wreck of a former self. Also, I'm still a little miffed at the writing team for not including her in The Three just because they couldn't come up with a power.
Needletail I'm neutral on Needletail. While it is true that she was basically just a rebellious teenager who realized too late that the group she admired and then joined had always been a murderous cult of rogues, I don't think that her redemption was done that well shortly before she died. It was brave (reckless?) but her later appearances as a ghost and in StarClan proved she hadn't ever taken proper responsibility for her part in what caused her own demise and that of ShadowClan. Plus, the way she treated Violetpaw as a sort of prize and trophy for a while disturbes me to this day.
Jagged Peak He was wonderful for the first half of DotC but his character just shifted in a way when he meet Holly that I was not very impressed by. So I'm more neutral on Jagged Peak.
Silverstream I still love Silverstream! She as a character and her entire storyline with Graystripe (including how it ended) was a walking cliche but her death was truly heartbreaking for me. She's also proven herself to be a capable and useful StarClan guide.
Bristlefrost I'm continuing to be neutral on Bristlefrost for now. Especially in comparison to the other two TBC protagonists. She just seems more like a camera than a a character most of the time. The only instance where that is not the case happens during her moments with Rootspring. Him having gotten plently of development unlike her feels a bit unfair to what she could have been instead of how she turned out.
Dovewing I like Dovewing. Although her introduction arc in OotS focused almost completely on her romance plot with Tigerheart (and Bumblestripe) while she had the sister drama with Ivypool going on as well. But I continue to think that she is a character with lots of wasted potential and was robbed of having any meaningful moments besides that. She deserved a better written story.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jul 24, 2021 15:16:37 GMT -5
Leafpool: Love. She's kind and loving and motherly, and I relate to her. I like her character growth Hollyleaf: Like. I like her character growth too. I like that she messed up massively, I like that she felt guilt for the things she did. I like that she was able to forgive Needletail: Hate. She gets treated like some martyr when she was largely a brat. Was Shadowclan perfect? No, but the chaos she brought to the clan was honestly terrible. And then she continued to shit talk Rowanstar even after she died. Jagged Peak: Neutral. Don't care Silverstream: Like. She's strong willed and kind, maybe bratty in life. As a Starclan guide? She's perfect. She's also a wonderful mate and has always encouraged Graystripe to continue to be happy even without her. Bristlefrost: Hate. She's boring and something about her just aggravates the heck out of me. Dovewing: Dislike. Her love story went on so long and I just find her grating. At least she's a good mom.
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