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Post by cygna on Jul 20, 2021 14:55:46 GMT -5
At any point through out the series were you convinced by the Erins facade that these two were ever a good couple?
Was there a point when you liked them together?
I used to ship Squirrelflight with Ashfur in TNP(big mistake) but I never really liked her with Bramble. They were fine for the first few books of Po3 but I can't say I shipped them.
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Post by Mothdapple on Jul 20, 2021 15:07:59 GMT -5
I liked them together when I was a kid.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jul 20, 2021 15:10:58 GMT -5
This is an interesting question. What would you define as "shipping"? I'm personally fine with them together AS OF HOW THEIR CHARACTERS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN... for the sole reason that the books have made it clear that after some point, they literally stopped being able to function without each other. It went straight past "til death do us part" to "I literally cannot handle life without this other person still being here for me" (and in Squirrelflight's case, "I literally can't handle the idea of being DEAD while my beloved is still down on earth and alive, either").
It's kind of weird to consider because unlike Spottedleaf, who clearly exhibits SIGNS of mental unwellness (obsession, borderline stalking, frequently shoving herself into the lives of her crush's children, deciding that she would rather stop existing than let her beloved's spouse die, etc.) despite the narrative treating her as a perfectly sane cat, Bramblestar and Squirrelflight really have no other characteristics that hint towards just being mentally unstable. Squirrelflight being dreadfully childish despite her age, sure, but I'm not sure that would classify as mental unwellness so much as it would just never having really grown up. But other than that, both appear to be perfectly sane cats... until they're faced with the possibility that they might have to endure some portion of their existence without the other with them. Then rationality COMPLETELY flies out the window and stays out the window until the threat passes.
I think that when Starclan told Leafpool that Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight will always be together, they actually just meant "it is officially too late for them, they have reached the point where they will no longer be able to function without each other and you had better get used to it".
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jul 20, 2021 16:55:32 GMT -5
They used to be one of my favorite pairings ever since BrS, but it all went downhill due to SqH.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 17:28:41 GMT -5
No way, I thought this idea of a relationship was stupid from the very beginning. Especially with how they made them basically hate each other in the beginning, so annoying.
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Post by Fireleap on Jul 20, 2021 17:35:30 GMT -5
I didn't care for it when I was younger, but I didn't hate them together like I do now.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 20, 2021 17:53:42 GMT -5
I loved the ship a lot when I first started reading WC but a certain super edition ruined BrambleSquirrel entirely.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jul 20, 2021 18:10:18 GMT -5
When I was a kid I shipped them HARD. I never liked Ashfur, even back in 2006-2007 when the TNP books were first coming out, and I liked both Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw. From that point I just... didn't really think about it much? I continued to like them because they were there.
As an adult, I do still like their relationship in Po3 and OotS. They were good parents to the Three in the former, and though broken up still had an interesting and heartbreaking dynamic in the latter. I only read AVoS and TBC as an adult (obviously), so I can't compare that to how I felt as a kid. However, as an adult, I do think their relationship was far more shippable in Po3-OotS than it was afterward. Things just got weird after the DotC break, in more ways than just this.
I haven't read TNP in full since I was a kid, but I'm rereading it right now, so we'll see how my opinions are on that. I've heard other people say that it was toxic from the beginning, and based on my memories of Twilight, that is true. But it's been awhile, so I'm hoping to find out once I get to that point in the reread. So far I really like their relationship in Midnight.
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Post by Rainsplash on Jul 20, 2021 19:09:48 GMT -5
Oh sure I did! I thought they were so cute since i apparently loved them fighting and getting back together. I loved Squirrelpaw and Brambleclaw because they both had unique personalities (I guess Brambleclaw as his dry stiff stern personality?) and I thought they were a Romeo and Juliet when Cinderpelt got that prophecy.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jul 21, 2021 5:08:40 GMT -5
I shipped them hard and it slowly dwindled until I no longer ship them.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 21, 2021 5:23:05 GMT -5
At one point, but it wasn't my main go-to. I preferred StormSquirrel.
But after the events that happened over the years, I've concluded that Squirrelflight is too independent and immature for any type of relationship with anyone in general. So I would prefer her single and alone.
Bramble on the other hand is shown to be a good father and mate, and honestly really does deserve happiness. Makes me wish that he didn't give Squirrel another chance in BrS, StarClan knows she didn't deserve it.
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Post by crowspirit on Jul 21, 2021 6:11:35 GMT -5
Probably when I was around ten years old and liked pretty much every fictional ship because it was “just so cute”.
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Post by whiteflight on Jul 21, 2021 8:00:59 GMT -5
In TNP I hated them being together because of how annoying Squrrielflight is. In PoT I loved them together, but after that I don't ship them together anymore because of how Squrrielflight acts.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 21, 2021 8:02:52 GMT -5
I used to like it alot. Now I just prefer them being friends and clanmates, but not romantically together.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 21, 2021 11:35:08 GMT -5
While I still really like the premise of villain's heir x hero's offspring and was initially excited for such a possibility in the Warriors series, BrambleSquirrel was not a couple I'm ever going to cheer on. This definitely had/has something to do with the fact that their constant arguing and fighting reminded me of my parents as a child and also continues to do so with other pairings from different series.
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Post by Seven on Jul 21, 2021 18:27:44 GMT -5
Its not my favourite ship but I ship them, at least up to A Vision Of Shadows
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Post by kitters on Jul 21, 2021 19:02:32 GMT -5
I think I always hated it. My first read-through, I hated Squirrelflight and thought she was incredibly annoying. and Bramble was a fave. so naturally I kinda hated the ship. Now my opinions have switched around sort of, Squirrel's not a fave but I dooooo nottt likeee Brambleeee at allllllll.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jul 21, 2021 19:56:22 GMT -5
I don't care about them now or then
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Post by kells on Jul 22, 2021 5:27:44 GMT -5
Man I hated them since day one, Bramble seemed like such an ass and Squirrel was so annoying
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jul 22, 2021 5:40:06 GMT -5
I used to love them together. I always loved the hate to love trope. Then as anything good in this series, the Erin's HAD to ruin it
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Post by downfalls on Jul 23, 2021 0:33:11 GMT -5
i did maybe once but then i just sorta forgot about it until sqh came along.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 23, 2021 11:06:19 GMT -5
I thought Squilf was annoying and Bramble was boring, so not really
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Post by Numquam on Jul 23, 2021 14:34:49 GMT -5
I think at one point I might've? But I remember finding their interactions to be really annoying. When I was first reading TNP, I preferred Ash x Squirrel and Storm x Squirrel I still would've liked to see Storm x Squirrel : <
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