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Post by Lionstrike on Jul 19, 2021 15:03:55 GMT -5
I, for one, think Mousewhisker, Rosepetal, Blossomfall should have been GONE.
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Post by Snowfire on Jul 19, 2021 15:14:54 GMT -5
Stick, I hate him so bad.
Also any of the cats that aren't necessary like Lionblaze's kits that have not said a word for example.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 16:14:10 GMT -5
1. A lot of unneeded second litters, especially with cats who pretty much all their first litter lives, and a lot of them have a lot of children, I'm looking at you families of Brackenfur x Sorreltail and Cinderheart x Lionblaze!
2. Storm, I felt like Bright Stream or Petal could have EASILY been Thunder's mother. Though, I guess they added her in to further drive Clear Sky to his brink of paranoia, but they could have killed off Jagged Peak or something as a driving force.
3. Those cats who only exist on the family tree and not in the actual books, why waste beautiful names like Tulip on cats that will NEVER use them in the text?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jul 19, 2021 16:19:41 GMT -5
all the second litters. they r all so pointless. sorrel x bracken's second litter is the worst offender. only 2 daughters, one dies, and the other goes on to be a cinderheart clone, and then she has kits with her direct cousin who is firekin lol. lilyheart is the worst offender of second litters and i dont like her for these petty reasons only. whitewing didnt need siblings. besides, snowbush dies, ambermoon dies, leaving only dewnose who gets with another fellow firekin...so like why did this second litter need to exist at all...? its so aggrivating...and lion x cinder second litter is stupid. the only lion x cinder kits who matter r fernsong and spotfur. should have just had 1 litter with just those 2 in it and be done with all the extra drones who add to the firekin pile.
alderheart and sparkpelt. they had no reason to exist. squirrelflight remaining barren would have been a stronger message. she is lion, holly, and jay's mom. period. they didn't need to give her her own bio kits to validate her motherhood status. plus, the arc they premeire in doesnt even revovle around them. if they had to exist, make them premiere in TBC where the plot would directly revolve around their parents and have them both involved in the plot as a result...but them being in AVOS had no effect whatsoever. any cat could have taken alderheart's place in the plot in bringing twig and violet to the lake. and sparkpelt's existence has no effect on anything whatsoever. all she is is fanservice in being another fireclone. all she does is get a mate who dies a few pages later, and has more firekin kits who no one cares about.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 19, 2021 17:17:08 GMT -5
Storm. Literally, her only purpose was to be pretty and give birth to Thunder.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Jul 19, 2021 18:04:23 GMT -5
Characters with dumb names like Flipclaw. Whenever they come up in the book I'm momentarily taken out of it. The bad names are distracting
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Post by Aqua on Jul 19, 2021 18:27:36 GMT -5
Squirrelflight's existence alone causes so many issues in the books. She lied to the three and caused Jay, Lion & Holly so much pain. Hollyleaf ended up killing Ashfur because of her betrayal, and she even told them to continue to live with the secret. She also disrespects Bramblestar and caused many problems in SqH. Squirrelflight is disloyal to her clan leader and dishonest. It's sad that Leafstar has to call her out for her behavior for it. Don't even get me started about the entire thing in TBC. Because she rejected Ashfur, he's after ALL the Clans for this, which I find is a little stupid? The world doesn't revolve around Squirrelflight, but the books act like it does. She's been very frustrating to read about and she's one of the reason why I stopped reading the books. The series didn't need another story revolving around her, and her "right" choices caused a lot of pain in the series.
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Post by cygna on Jul 19, 2021 19:02:48 GMT -5
Star Flower - Gross AF Storm - Annoying and unlikable cat who's nothing more than a walking womb. And even that wouldn't be neccessery if Bright Stream wasn't killed so soon. Sorrelstripe, Hollytuft, Snaptooth, & Flywhisker Dewnose, Snowbush, & Ambermoon Honeyfur - At least you know Leafshade gets to mentor an important character. Tigerheartstar - Traitor who deserved NOTHING!!!
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Post by Brindlefern on Jul 19, 2021 21:24:56 GMT -5
Squirrelflight's existence alone causes so many issues in the books. She lied to the three and caused Jay, Lion & Holly so much pain. Hollyleaf ended up killing Ashfur because of her betrayal, and she even told them to continue to live with the secret. She also disrespects Bramblestar and caused many problems in SqH. Squirrelflight is disloyal to her clan leader and dishonest. It's sad that Leafstar has to call her out for her behavior for it. Don't even get me started about the entire thing in TBC. Because she rejected Ashfur, he's after ALL the Clans for this, which I find is a little stupid? The world doesn't revolve around Squirrelflight, but the books act like it does. She's been very frustrating to read about and she's one of the reason why I stopped reading the books. The series didn't need another story revolving around her, and her "right" choices caused a lot of pain in the series. Wait what does this have to do with the thread? it's about characters you wish didn't exist.
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Post by Aqua on Jul 19, 2021 21:34:33 GMT -5
Squirrelflight's existence alone causes so many issues in the books. She lied to the three and caused Jay, Lion & Holly so much pain. Hollyleaf ended up killing Ashfur because of her betrayal, and she even told them to continue to live with the secret. She also disrespects Bramblestar and caused many problems in SqH. Squirrelflight is disloyal to her clan leader and dishonest. It's sad that Leafstar has to call her out for her behavior for it. Don't even get me started about the entire thing in TBC. Because she rejected Ashfur, he's after ALL the Clans for this, which I find is a little stupid? The world doesn't revolve around Squirrelflight, but the books act like it does. She's been very frustrating to read about and she's one of the reason why I stopped reading the books. The series didn't need another story revolving around her, and her "right" choices caused a lot of pain in the series. Wait what does this have to do with the thread? it's about characters you wish didn't exist. I mostly don't want Squirrelflight around anymore because her existence alone causes too much pain. I know she doesn't mean any harm, but that doesn't mean shit didn't happen. Squirrelflight still hurt many cats. She causes so much problems in the Clans for "doing the right thing". I know she's not malicious and there's times when I do sympathize with her, but my point of this is that her existence alone causes a lot of pain, and I don't want her in the books because of that. A lot of drama could have been avoided. Does that make sense? I don't know how to word it any better tbh. And before people remind me, I know Leafpool is just as guilty for this. But she actually learned from her mistakes and does everything she can to help all the clans. Squirrelflight continues to act disloyal and hurt others behind their backs.
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Post by aether on Jul 19, 2021 21:51:27 GMT -5
I think Storm was necessary, honestly. Bright Stream's death while pregnant made Clear Sky paranoid and over protective during Storm's pregnancy, a factor that made Storm leave him. The reason why they didn't just kill Jagged Peak is because Jagged Peak was injured and forced out - more 'Clear Sky is bad' character building, to show how ruthless Clear Sky had become. Storm died so Gray Wing would adopt Thunder, obviously.
Yes it seems like Storm was useless but really she did have a purpose (despite the fact it was short lived, I agree).
I haven't read any of the modern books but it sounds like many characters don't have a purpose which is definitely disappointing. Having a smaller group of meaningful characters definitely is better then a bigger group of no-ones.
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Post by Fire the Watcher of the vale on Jul 19, 2021 22:14:29 GMT -5
I think Storm was necessary, honestly. Bright Stream's death while pregnant made Clear Sky paranoid and over protective during Storm's pregnancy, a factor that made Storm leave him. The reason why they didn't just kill Jagged Peak is because Jagged Peak was injured and forced out - more 'Clear Sky is bad' character building, to show how ruthless Clear Sky had become. Storm died so Gray Wing would adopt Thunder, obviously.
Yes it seems like Storm was useless but really she did have a purpose (despite the fact it was short lived, I agree).
I haven't read any of the modern books but it sounds like many characters don't have a purpose which is definitely disappointing. Having a smaller group of meaningful characters definitely is better then a bigger group of no-ones. Agreed with just about everything here lol. I vote for another cataclysmic event that kills off like have the clan cats so we can have smaller groups and don't have to deal with the mass of voiceless characters.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jul 19, 2021 23:08:13 GMT -5
Almost every second litter. Main exceptions being Dustpelt/Ferncloud's.
Spottedleaf.
Brook.
The Sisters.
Dovewing.
Finnleap.
There are definitely more but I can't think of them right now.
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Post by downfalls on Jul 20, 2021 4:23:25 GMT -5
stick, roach, darktail, rowanstar, bramblestar and willie
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jul 20, 2021 5:00:35 GMT -5
Jessy Storm Eaglewing, Plumstone, Shellfur Sorrelstripe Snowbush (replace him with Dewnose, because I think DewLily is better than SnowLily)
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 20, 2021 5:06:14 GMT -5
Storm Squirrelflight Brook Finleap Sleekwhisker The Sisters Rock Star Flower Slash Literally any of the second litters with like no real roles or speaking lines.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jul 20, 2021 5:32:56 GMT -5
Ambermoon Snowbush Dewnose Sorrelstripe Hollytuft Eaglewing Plumstone Shellfur Alderheart Sparkpelt Bramblestar Spottedleaf Jessy
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Post by Fire the Watcher of the vale on Jul 20, 2021 7:27:00 GMT -5
Dovewing Ivypool And like 90% of the characters introduced in aVoS and after.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 20, 2021 7:27:46 GMT -5
Tigerheart and the Sisters. Maybe I would still like this series alot if they didn’t exist, jfc.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 20, 2021 11:52:06 GMT -5
Star Flower, The Sisters (except for Tree), Sleekwhisker, Sol, Jessy, Tigerstar II and Ashfur.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jul 20, 2021 13:58:07 GMT -5
Jessy for sure
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