Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jul 12, 2021 4:21:41 GMT -5
What are your opinions on him? I absolutely despise him, I will explain why.
He seemed like a good character at first, but then the Clear Sky drama came into the picture. Thunder's father, the cat who disowned him when he was younger, asked Thunder to come to his camp. At this point there already was drama with Clear Sky. Cats in Tall Shadow's camp were talking about how Clear Sky started becoming unreasonable, how he became aggressive, how he started making borders, etc. But, without Clear Sky even apologizing, and him using the lamest excuse you can think of: "I did it to make you stronger and prepare you", or something. So Thunder leaves, leaving his best friends, his foster mother, and his adopted father/uncle behind. And when he came there, he left soon after. Because he doesn't like it with Clear Sky. Because he doesn't agree with the way Clear Sky leads and treats other cats. Even though he already knew Clear Sky was like this. At this point in his life, Thunder already hurted a lot of cats because of his selfish desires.
Thunder is mad at Clear Sky in the next book. When Gray Wing, Tall Shadow and Thunder are going to the peace talk with Clear Sky, Thunder becomes passive aggressive against his father. He starts throwing out insults, and other things like that. This obviously makes Clear Sky more angrier and aggressive than he already was, which causes Clear Sky to attack.
In the fourth book, Thunder starts seeing Star Flower at gatherings. He thinks she is beautiful, and they start talking. Thunder falls immediately for her. Lightning Tail, Thunder's best friend, doesn't trust Star Flower. He thinks that Thunder should be careful around Star Flower. Thunder doesn't appreciate that. He goes on with Star Flower. Star Flower is a pretty and charming she-cat, and Thunder and Star Flower start 'dating'. Thunder starts screwing up with Lightning Tail. It was kinda like the Graystripe and Fireheart thing in TPB. It eventually becomes so bad, that they are having a feisty argument, where Thunder accuses Lightning Tail of being jealous, so Lightning Tail attacks Thunder. This causes a rift in their friendship. Thunder tells Star Flower literally all of their secrets, and all of their attack plans on One Eye. Think about it. Thunder KNEW Star Flower was a rogue. There was a 80% chance Star Flower knew One Eye, because most of the rogues seem to know each other. Thunder wasn't thinking with his head or heart, he was just thinking with his d!ck. Star Flower uses the information to save One Eye, also her dad, and at that point, Thunder literally tries to avoid Lightning Tail's gaze, because he doesn't want to admit to his BEST FRIEND that he was wrong.
The book after that, it becomes even worse. Thunder decides to join his father AGAIN. And Star Flower also joins Clear Sky, something that happened because Thunder persuaded Clear Sky into taking Star Flower into his camp, because Thunder was STILL in love with her. Star Flower is not interested in Thunder tho. She starts liking Clear Sky. When Thunder finds out that Star Flower and Clear Sky are developing a relationship, he starts freaking out or smth. He yells at Lightning Tail something like: 'I don't have to hear how you tell me you were right,' while Lightning Tail just wanted to comfort Thunder. When back at camp, Thunder immediately goes to Clear Sky to tell him that he should watch out with Star Flower, even though Thunder himself was almost 100% ready to start a relationship with her again. Clear Sky tells Thunder that he will think about it, but eventually decides that he just wants to be with Star Flower, someone who already told Clear Sky that she is 100% loyal to him, which wasn't a lie. When Thunder finds out that his father ignored his 'warning', he starts yelling at Star Flower that she needs to leave his father alone. Star Flower asks why, because they're getting along so well. Then she is quiet and tells Thunder that she is sorry, and that she didn't realize that he was still in love with him. Yelling to Star Flower didn't work, so Thunder decides to go to his father again. He tells Clear Sky that he came to HIS (SO CLEAR SKY'S) camp because he wanted to lead, and that he doesn't get the respect he 'deserves'. This is something he barely thought about before he mentioned this. He also tells Clear Sky that he wants to leave because he 'can't watch Clear Sky making more terrible decisions' or something. Clear Sky asks if it's about Star Flower, and Thunder says that she can't be trusted. He tries to blackmail Clear Sky into kicking Star Flower out. He says that he will only stay if Clear Sky banishes Star Flower from the forest, and that she brings nothing but trouble.
NOTE: Thunder was the one who convinced Clear Sky into taking Star Flower in. But when it's clear that Star Flower is leading her own life, and wants to have a relationship with another cat, Thunder tries to force Clear Sky into kicking her out. When it's about Star Flower, Thunder feels like he is entitled to her. He is possessive and tries to force Star Flower and Clear Sky into breaking up.
When Clear Sky doesn't banish Star Flower, Thunder decides to leave, and takes with him a half of Clear Sky's camp. Clear Sky is very sad about this, because he thought of them as friends. Star Flower comforts Clear Sky.
In the next book, Star Flower is kidnapped, pregnant and all. Clear Sky is freaking out. There is only a chance in getting her back, if he and all the other leaders meet with Slash. He tries to convince Thunder, but Thunder just doesn't care? Even when Clear Sky tells Thunder that Star Flower is pregnant, Thunder just says that it's Clear Sky's problem. Yes, Thunder helps eventually, but that is after Gray Wing persuaded him. But everything that happened showed that Thunder was willing to let the cat he claimed to love and her unborn kits die, because she didn't choose him.
In Thunderstar's Echo, Thunderstar goes to Skystar to ask him if he smelled some dogs. Skystar says yes, at the border of SkyClan and ThunderClan. Thunderstar immediately starts yelling at Skystar. He accuses Skystar of 'not caring for anyone other than himself and his Clan'.
NOTE: The dogs had a strong smell of Thunderpath. Skystar had every reason to believe that these dogs were just some dogs with Twolegs, who were there temporarily. He never smelled dogs like that.
Skystar apologizes and offers to help Thunder.
In Shadowstar's Life, Thunderstar isn't much better. When Skystar banished Quick Water, a MURDERER, Thunderstar takes Quick Water into his camp, with the claim that 'there is no proof that Quick Water killed Sun Shadow and tried to kill Shadowstar', even though three ShadowClan cats saw it, including Shadowstar, the cat Quick Water tried to murder TWICE, a leader, and very respected and honest. Thunderstar says that he knew Quick Water since he was young, and that he didn't believe that she would murder someone, but at the same time claiming that the cat he knew since he was a kit and lead a camp with lies about Quick Water trying to murder her and murdering her deputy. Thunderstar convinces Skystar to take Quick Water back in SkyClan. When Shadowstar and Windstar come with a battle patrol to SkyClan territory to kill Quick Water, because "she is too dangerous to keep in Clan territory, so she needs to leave or die '', Thunderstar starts interfering. He literally attacks Shadowstar. And when both Shadowstar and Quick Water are dying next to eachother, and Quick Water confesses that it was all true, and that murdered Sun Shadow and tried to murder Shadowstar, Thunderstar didn't even APOLOGIZE to Shadowstar when she was dying, something that would've never happend if Thunderstar had some common sense.
Now you guys know why I hate him so much. I would like to hear your opinion!
He seemed like a good character at first, but then the Clear Sky drama came into the picture. Thunder's father, the cat who disowned him when he was younger, asked Thunder to come to his camp. At this point there already was drama with Clear Sky. Cats in Tall Shadow's camp were talking about how Clear Sky started becoming unreasonable, how he became aggressive, how he started making borders, etc. But, without Clear Sky even apologizing, and him using the lamest excuse you can think of: "I did it to make you stronger and prepare you", or something. So Thunder leaves, leaving his best friends, his foster mother, and his adopted father/uncle behind. And when he came there, he left soon after. Because he doesn't like it with Clear Sky. Because he doesn't agree with the way Clear Sky leads and treats other cats. Even though he already knew Clear Sky was like this. At this point in his life, Thunder already hurted a lot of cats because of his selfish desires.
Thunder is mad at Clear Sky in the next book. When Gray Wing, Tall Shadow and Thunder are going to the peace talk with Clear Sky, Thunder becomes passive aggressive against his father. He starts throwing out insults, and other things like that. This obviously makes Clear Sky more angrier and aggressive than he already was, which causes Clear Sky to attack.
In the fourth book, Thunder starts seeing Star Flower at gatherings. He thinks she is beautiful, and they start talking. Thunder falls immediately for her. Lightning Tail, Thunder's best friend, doesn't trust Star Flower. He thinks that Thunder should be careful around Star Flower. Thunder doesn't appreciate that. He goes on with Star Flower. Star Flower is a pretty and charming she-cat, and Thunder and Star Flower start 'dating'. Thunder starts screwing up with Lightning Tail. It was kinda like the Graystripe and Fireheart thing in TPB. It eventually becomes so bad, that they are having a feisty argument, where Thunder accuses Lightning Tail of being jealous, so Lightning Tail attacks Thunder. This causes a rift in their friendship. Thunder tells Star Flower literally all of their secrets, and all of their attack plans on One Eye. Think about it. Thunder KNEW Star Flower was a rogue. There was a 80% chance Star Flower knew One Eye, because most of the rogues seem to know each other. Thunder wasn't thinking with his head or heart, he was just thinking with his d!ck. Star Flower uses the information to save One Eye, also her dad, and at that point, Thunder literally tries to avoid Lightning Tail's gaze, because he doesn't want to admit to his BEST FRIEND that he was wrong.
The book after that, it becomes even worse. Thunder decides to join his father AGAIN. And Star Flower also joins Clear Sky, something that happened because Thunder persuaded Clear Sky into taking Star Flower into his camp, because Thunder was STILL in love with her. Star Flower is not interested in Thunder tho. She starts liking Clear Sky. When Thunder finds out that Star Flower and Clear Sky are developing a relationship, he starts freaking out or smth. He yells at Lightning Tail something like: 'I don't have to hear how you tell me you were right,' while Lightning Tail just wanted to comfort Thunder. When back at camp, Thunder immediately goes to Clear Sky to tell him that he should watch out with Star Flower, even though Thunder himself was almost 100% ready to start a relationship with her again. Clear Sky tells Thunder that he will think about it, but eventually decides that he just wants to be with Star Flower, someone who already told Clear Sky that she is 100% loyal to him, which wasn't a lie. When Thunder finds out that his father ignored his 'warning', he starts yelling at Star Flower that she needs to leave his father alone. Star Flower asks why, because they're getting along so well. Then she is quiet and tells Thunder that she is sorry, and that she didn't realize that he was still in love with him. Yelling to Star Flower didn't work, so Thunder decides to go to his father again. He tells Clear Sky that he came to HIS (SO CLEAR SKY'S) camp because he wanted to lead, and that he doesn't get the respect he 'deserves'. This is something he barely thought about before he mentioned this. He also tells Clear Sky that he wants to leave because he 'can't watch Clear Sky making more terrible decisions' or something. Clear Sky asks if it's about Star Flower, and Thunder says that she can't be trusted. He tries to blackmail Clear Sky into kicking Star Flower out. He says that he will only stay if Clear Sky banishes Star Flower from the forest, and that she brings nothing but trouble.
NOTE: Thunder was the one who convinced Clear Sky into taking Star Flower in. But when it's clear that Star Flower is leading her own life, and wants to have a relationship with another cat, Thunder tries to force Clear Sky into kicking her out. When it's about Star Flower, Thunder feels like he is entitled to her. He is possessive and tries to force Star Flower and Clear Sky into breaking up.
When Clear Sky doesn't banish Star Flower, Thunder decides to leave, and takes with him a half of Clear Sky's camp. Clear Sky is very sad about this, because he thought of them as friends. Star Flower comforts Clear Sky.
In the next book, Star Flower is kidnapped, pregnant and all. Clear Sky is freaking out. There is only a chance in getting her back, if he and all the other leaders meet with Slash. He tries to convince Thunder, but Thunder just doesn't care? Even when Clear Sky tells Thunder that Star Flower is pregnant, Thunder just says that it's Clear Sky's problem. Yes, Thunder helps eventually, but that is after Gray Wing persuaded him. But everything that happened showed that Thunder was willing to let the cat he claimed to love and her unborn kits die, because she didn't choose him.
In Thunderstar's Echo, Thunderstar goes to Skystar to ask him if he smelled some dogs. Skystar says yes, at the border of SkyClan and ThunderClan. Thunderstar immediately starts yelling at Skystar. He accuses Skystar of 'not caring for anyone other than himself and his Clan'.
NOTE: The dogs had a strong smell of Thunderpath. Skystar had every reason to believe that these dogs were just some dogs with Twolegs, who were there temporarily. He never smelled dogs like that.
Skystar apologizes and offers to help Thunder.
In Shadowstar's Life, Thunderstar isn't much better. When Skystar banished Quick Water, a MURDERER, Thunderstar takes Quick Water into his camp, with the claim that 'there is no proof that Quick Water killed Sun Shadow and tried to kill Shadowstar', even though three ShadowClan cats saw it, including Shadowstar, the cat Quick Water tried to murder TWICE, a leader, and very respected and honest. Thunderstar says that he knew Quick Water since he was young, and that he didn't believe that she would murder someone, but at the same time claiming that the cat he knew since he was a kit and lead a camp with lies about Quick Water trying to murder her and murdering her deputy. Thunderstar convinces Skystar to take Quick Water back in SkyClan. When Shadowstar and Windstar come with a battle patrol to SkyClan territory to kill Quick Water, because "she is too dangerous to keep in Clan territory, so she needs to leave or die '', Thunderstar starts interfering. He literally attacks Shadowstar. And when both Shadowstar and Quick Water are dying next to eachother, and Quick Water confesses that it was all true, and that murdered Sun Shadow and tried to murder Shadowstar, Thunderstar didn't even APOLOGIZE to Shadowstar when she was dying, something that would've never happend if Thunderstar had some common sense.
Now you guys know why I hate him so much. I would like to hear your opinion!