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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 17, 2021 16:06:02 GMT -5
Spots of Rot in the Leaves (Spot, she/he/fae):
Hi Kate. I feel awful for saying this, but
please
please
please
if you can, make sure that Bristlefrost’s entire personality stops being butchered, I genuinely can’t take it anymore. You all made her out to be an independent but headstrong cat at first, only to scrap literally all of that in favor of making her literally start simping for Rootspring. If a relationship needs to have a character’s personality scrapped in order for making it work out better, maybe you shouldn’t follow through with the relationship??? I mean obviously BristleRoot is going to be canon, but please, actually have it make sense and true to the characters.
My standards are so very low but even I can’t take this
Kate:
I can’t agree with you about Bristlefrost, but fear not – I think you will find her true personality really shines right through book 6.
Source: blogclan.katecary.co.uk/2020/05/22/the-place-of-no-stars-discussion-page/comment-page-22/?unapproved=1131834&moderation-hash=0a27efeb3dc56434f902fa3637672a86#comments
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 17, 2021 16:20:44 GMT -5
Which means she'll be even more grating in book 6
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 17, 2021 17:08:53 GMT -5
Honestly Bristlefrost’s personality never changed all that much?? It was never butchered?? You can be independent and still have crushes and like cats? She was the most normal of the three POV’s to me, like she was never butchered. Fandom seems so overdramatic about it, she’s always been a hopeless romantic, and if anything, Rootspring simps for her, not the other way around lol.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jun 17, 2021 17:12:53 GMT -5
I wonder what's going to happen in book 6... alas, there is still many months to go.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 17, 2021 18:10:16 GMT -5
Bristlefrost's romanticism has been part of her character from day one.
She was ALWAYS a hopeless romantic, loving being in love and focusing on the cat she loves and being motivated by that cat's presence. It began with Stemleaf, her very first chapter goes on about how she cannot wait to be Stemleaf's mate and have kits with him and live a life with him, and it only went away because the guy revealed he didn't like her the same way. Imo, when she lost that part of her character for a like what... 2 1/2 books(?) I lost interest in her as I found her PoV very unique for one until that, I don't think we've had a "romanticizing romance" POV ever, even in previous POVs I never got the vibes from the cats that have potential relationships. Bristlefrost on the other hand, once she has a potential love in sight she focuses on it. It started with Stemleaf, which she eventually realizes after he's dead and that she didn't mourn him as much as she THOUGHT she would, that she sees that those feelings were just infatuation, and it's just only continuing with Rootspring now, but I think and very much believe that with him, unlike with Stemleaf, the feelings are real, and it helps that Rootspring likes her back, something she never got with Stem.
Bristlefrost's personality was never butchered, her romanticism was just gone because she didn't HAVE a cat to think that way anymore after Stemleaf rejected her. But now that she has a cat that she can love in Rootspring, who ALSO requites her feelings, that part of her personality is back in full swing. IMO, I like that personally, I feel like we're seeing Bristlefrost as she's meant to be like. Her feelings for Rootspring I doubt are fake or anything, she's just a very romantic cat when you get her to have a opportunity to be, always has been! Just because that is a big factor in her personality doesn't mean that's all she is now. It's a big factor, but if you suppress that like how Stemleaf's thing did, she does show other parts of her character OUTSIDE of that romanticism. Do you have to like her when that romanticism shows? Nope, you don't. Just like how I have every right to find her boring without it. I love hopeless romantic characters like her as I can very much relate to it, and it's a change of pace from the "Standard ambitious apprentice who wants to be the best warrior evah!!111!" thing. Some girls just wanna be a hardworking housewife with a family, let 'em!
Also yeah what Moonblazer said, this is honestly very dramatic, no offense. Not only that but this is not how you speak to people when you send emails to them, and its tone comes off as really rude in fact. Remember that Kate does not control what happens in this books. She just writes what the editors give her. She can't stop BristleRoot from happening, and it especially won't not happen just because you don't like it. Also yeah Rootspring is the one simping for her, not the other way around lmao.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 17, 2021 18:26:47 GMT -5
This fandom: We don't want unhealthy romances and we want characters with less drama! Bristlefrost: Oh, here I am, I just want to be a good warrior and love a cat but I won't break the rules because I know it would cause drama. This fandom:
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Post by Seven on Jun 17, 2021 19:48:07 GMT -5
Honestly I found Bristlefrost to be a romantic from the beginning. And I do like her and Rootspring together, though I havent read the 2 latest books.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 17, 2021 21:50:17 GMT -5
Like others have said, Bristlefrost is fine the way she is. Yeah, it'd be great to have a main character who never takes a mate, forbidden or otherwise (I still wish this had been the case with Ivypool), and while her relationship with Rootspring could've most certainly been developed more, the fact that they're actually being mature about it and discussing their future more than makes up for it.
Bristlefrost has always been a cat who was immensely loyal to her Clan while also being a romantic at heart and we're still very clearly seeing that even after she falls for Rootspring. Fourth books are almost always the breather books of the series and DW gave them the chance to explore how well she and Rootspring work together since they're away from the Clans for a good chunk of it, but unlike so many of their predecessors, they know they can't be together and essentially end things before it gets too serious.
Whether or not either of them will leave their Clan for the other obviously remains to be seen, but to say that her personality has been butchered doesn't really seem to be all that accurate, either.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 18, 2021 4:07:35 GMT -5
Is it just me...or does the way they speak to Kate come off as pretty rude?
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Post by Jaysnow on Jun 18, 2021 4:17:48 GMT -5
Is it just me...or does the way they speak to Kate come off as pretty rude? Yes, seems rather condescending.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 18, 2021 7:39:57 GMT -5
Is it just me...or does the way they speak to Kate come off as pretty rude? No offense to the thread's OP but yeah, I kinda thought that too. >.> The email is not really a professional one, and it reads as if they're speaking to someone they know. That's just not how you're supposed to type when you're emailing someone who works under a company. There's probably a slew of other problems there but that was the most noticeable to me (As I think every other email I've seen folks transfer to here has spoken more email proper, so I suppose this just comes off as rightfully jarring to see)
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 18, 2021 7:55:20 GMT -5
Is it just me...or does the way they speak to Kate come off as pretty rude? No offense to the thread's OP but yeah, I kinda thought that too. >.> The email is not really a professional one, and it reads as if they're speaking to someone they know. That's just not how you're supposed to type when you're emailing someone who works under a company. There's probably a slew of other problems there but that was the most noticeable to me (As I think every other email I've seen folks transfer to here has spoken more email proper, so I suppose this just comes off as rightfully jarring to see) Maybe it's just me, then, but I don't really see anything wrong with how Kate replied. I've read it so many times now and it really does just sound like she's just doing her best to reassure a really disappointed fan.
But anyway, it's not from an email, but from Kate's blog (there's even a link to it at the bottom of the thread). Not sure if that makes much of a difference and I haven't been to BlogClan in forever, but my guess is that Kate is a bit more relaxed on there, so that might be why her responses aren't "professional" if that makes sense.EDIT: Really sorry, ignore what I said. For whatever reason, I thought this was referring to Kate, not whoever posed the question (who, yes, was definitely coming off as rude).
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 18, 2021 7:57:44 GMT -5
No offense to the thread's OP but yeah, I kinda thought that too. >.> The email is not really a professional one, and it reads as if they're speaking to someone they know. That's just not how you're supposed to type when you're emailing someone who works under a company. There's probably a slew of other problems there but that was the most noticeable to me (As I think every other email I've seen folks transfer to here has spoken more email proper, so I suppose this just comes off as rightfully jarring to see) Maybe it's just me, then, but I don't really see anything wrong with how Kate replied. I've read it so many times now and it really does just sound like she's just doing her best to reassure a really disappointed fan. But anyway, it's not from an email, but from Kate's blog (there's even a link to it at the bottom of the thread). Not sure if that makes much of a difference and I haven't been to BlogClan in forever, but my guess is that Kate is a bit more relaxed on there, so that might be why her responses aren't "professional" if that makes sense. I think they're talking about the person posing the question, not Kate's response.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 18, 2021 7:59:39 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, then, but I don't really see anything wrong with how Kate replied. I've read it so many times now and it really does just sound like she's just doing her best to reassure a really disappointed fan. But anyway, it's not from an email, but from Kate's blog (there's even a link to it at the bottom of the thread). Not sure if that makes much of a difference and I haven't been to BlogClan in forever, but my guess is that Kate is a bit more relaxed on there, so that might be why her responses aren't "professional" if that makes sense. I think they're talking about the person posing the question, not Kate's response. Yeah, I noticed right after I posted, sorry about that. I need to get my eyes checked.
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