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Post by moongloweevee on Mar 25, 2024 7:50:04 GMT -5
Agree, Skyclan as well.
A Starless Clan would be very boring without Frostpaw in the sense that there's only been one real major fight scene between Shadowclan and Riverclan.
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StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Mar 25, 2024 8:38:59 GMT -5
Agree
RiverClan has the best plot for an arc so far
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Post by lightfur on Mar 25, 2024 15:11:08 GMT -5
Agreed! It's nice to see some focus on them now!
Ryewhisker and Cloudberry should have appeared/been referenced in the main books considering the fact that the code they were the cause of got changed. And the "be loyal to your clan rule" was iconic so and the cause of so many forbidden relationship plots. It just feels wrong for the cats involved in it to never appear outside of COTC. (Also I would have liked to see their kits too.)
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Post by Katanaheart on Mar 25, 2024 15:16:03 GMT -5
Agreed! Very curious to how the lovers and their kits would feel about the code representing their tragic tale being squashed due to how careless the Clans are being.
Speaking of cats that should appear more often, we should see more leadership ceremonies as that’s the only time we’ve seen more of the ancient cats anyway.
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Post by lightfur on Mar 25, 2024 15:31:31 GMT -5
Agreed! They're showing ancient cats in leader ceremonies a lot more in general. (I'm sure if they showed us Squirrelflight's leader ceremony Thunderstar would have been there.)
There should have been a in-book explanation on why Tigerheart was named after his father.
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Post by moongloweevee on Mar 26, 2024 10:48:44 GMT -5
Neutral. If I remember, Tawnypelt mentioned that Tigerheart was named for what her father could have been. Don't remember which book she mentioned that in.
Some characters like Leopardstar, Onestar, Redtail, and Spottedleaf didn't need their own stories.
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Post by lightfur on Mar 26, 2024 12:29:49 GMT -5
Neutral. If I remember, Tawnypelt mentioned that Tigerheart was named for what her father could have been. Don't remember which book she mentioned that in. Some characters like Leopardstar, Onestar, Redtail, and Spottedleaf didn't need their own stories. Semi-agreed. Onestar had the whole twist of him being Darktail's father, so I do believe a story about that was warranted. I still don't like Onestar's confession for a lot of reasons though. I can agree with Leopardstar (since we did see her childhood in Crookedstar's Promise), though I did like the story of her being Whiteclaw's mother figure. (Even if it is a sudden retcon, I still find it cute.) I fully agree with Redtail, the retcon of him killing Oakheart was very, very unnecessary. Spottedleaf... Putting what we actually got aside, she did choose to become a medicine cat in Bluestar's Prophecy, which is very rare in the series. So having a short story about her choice would have been nice. Instead, we got you know what. (And she gets forced to be a medicine cat in it!) (Oops, I didn't mean to quote you) The scene of Tallstar making Onewhisker his deputy has aged horribly, and I'm disappointed that it has.
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Post by Jaysnow on Mar 26, 2024 18:31:26 GMT -5
Agreed (wholeheartedly). Tallstar made a big mistake there. He should've chosen some other cat.
Splashtail is a cool villain, and his name doesn't change the fact that he's cool.
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#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 26, 2024 19:11:55 GMT -5
Agree!
ThunderClan should eventually stop becoming the main Clan in the plot
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Post by Sunleap24973 on Mar 26, 2024 22:25:34 GMT -5
Agreed! At least for an arc or two. (Windclan pov please!)
The Erin's should choose some more non-leader cats to make SE's about.
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BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ
Villain Enjoyer
Currently sick with the flu...
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 27, 2024 4:52:23 GMT -5
Agreed! I do still like those focusing on leaders though.
On the topic of SEs, I hope Cloverfoot gets an SE someday. Especially if she will indeed become leader. Although her dying in ASC before getting there is also still a possibility. Most modern leaders (minus Brokenstar and Harestar) and modern deputies who became leaders have gotten SEs (or at least a novella like Mistystar and Blackstar) at this point or are getting them (Ivypool).
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Post by Starflower on Mar 27, 2024 18:52:45 GMT -5
Idk? I don’t remember Cloverfoot but I do agree that more background characters should have SE’s.
Mothwing and Leafpool need to be lesbians/bisexuals. They would be so cute together!!!!🥰🥰🥰
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Slightdapple
✨your local book nerd ✨
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Post by Slightdapple on Mar 28, 2024 13:36:28 GMT -5
Agree
Hollyleaf should've been present during the final battle against Ashfur.
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Post by Jaysnow on Mar 28, 2024 16:46:23 GMT -5
Agreed 1000%. Given her history with Ashfur, it's ridiculous Hollyleaf hardly had a presence in The Broken Code at all. She had like, one cameo and that was in a bonus scene. Really?
Nightheart is one of the best protagonists in the series.
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Post by Starflower on Mar 28, 2024 18:17:33 GMT -5
Agree I LOVEEEEE Nightheart and he is so amazing.
Windclan cats should get a choice to be something other than a moor runner or tunnler
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Post by ☆*:.。. Rain .。.:*☆ on Mar 29, 2024 11:14:27 GMT -5
Much agreed
Leafpool deserved more empathy for her troubles with Crow boy
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The Shiny User
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 29, 2024 19:55:42 GMT -5
Agree
The protags of ASC should 100% interact more with all three of them together!!
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Post by lightfur on Mar 29, 2024 20:20:58 GMT -5
Agreed, I wish Frostpaw and Sunbeam interacted at all.
Ripplestar from COTC should appear in the Dark Forest. Or any of the cats from COTC that would belong there for that matter.
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Post by silverstarpenguin on Mar 30, 2024 3:10:01 GMT -5
Agree. Most of the important cats from DF are from a recent era, none of those from CotC ever appeared there, although I believe one of the authors confirmed Ripplestar had gone there? One Eye should officially be named as the founder of the Dark Forest, or even appear in it in a following book, as he is the first villain of the Clans (not counting Skystar).
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Post by ☆*:.。. Rain .。.:*☆ on Mar 30, 2024 8:43:07 GMT -5
Definitely agree!!
Bluestar got kind of annoying to read about roughly a book before she started to lose her memory.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2024 8:55:34 GMT -5
Disagree. I actually found it to be interesting, albeit incredibly sad. Also, I'd be careful referring to her as "cuckoo" considering she was confirmed to have had dementia towards the end of her life.
Lionblaze is an interesting character.
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Post by ☆*:.。. Rain .。.:*☆ on Mar 30, 2024 11:05:01 GMT -5
Agree kind of, he did come across as quite complex, and I like his relationship with Cinderheart. (Sorry abt the Bluestar thing, I understand your reasoning.)
Firestar didn’t seem at all like the same cat once he reached the new forest.
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Post by Starflower on Mar 30, 2024 12:35:44 GMT -5
Agree. He honestly seemed more out for power, and maybe that’s because he left the place that people thought of him as weak? Idk.
It was stupid for briarlight to go after the elder, losing an elder is better than losing a young cat who is able to be a good warrior!
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Post by ☆*:.。. Rain .。.:*☆ on Apr 1, 2024 8:31:15 GMT -5
Mostly agree, the elder was less useful but it’s still a bit distasteful to have a perfectly kind and loving warrior just abandon another cat.
There should be more LGBTQIA+ representation in the books, and if not the whole thing, at least intersex representation.
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Post by Slightdapple on Apr 1, 2024 9:21:36 GMT -5
Agree
ASC is one of the best arcs so far
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 1, 2024 11:08:08 GMT -5
Agree.
Tawnypelt or Crowfeather should have had a PoV in TNP instead of Stormfur.
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Post by Slightdapple on Apr 1, 2024 11:34:55 GMT -5
Agree!
Frostpaw should become leader of RiverClan
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 1, 2024 12:04:34 GMT -5
Disagree, but I have a feeling it might happen. I prefer Icestar or Duskstar in power.
I think Deadfoot should have succeeded Tallstar.
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Post by silverstarpenguin on Apr 1, 2024 12:13:02 GMT -5
Agreed, I always find it more interesting to read about a reasonable character's arc rather than how the authors keep excusing characters such as Onestar and Skystar.
The Warrior Code should change so that other Clans' leaders or medicine cats or a smaller number of cats could depose a leader without waiting for so ling to get StarClan's approval.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 1, 2024 13:29:21 GMT -5
Neutral? I find it to be a difficult topic. I think there are issues with the current method of deposing a leader, but I'm not exactly sure if leaving it to the leaders and medicine cats (many of whom would not see how the accused leader behaves with their Clan regularly and would have to go on the word of the Clan) and excluding StarClan would be better. Though StarClan has been shown to have pretty poor judgment.
StarClan should take a cat's past into account before allowing them to become leader, a little bit like they did with Blackstar in Blackfoot's Reckoning, rather than simply accepting them and hoping they'll be a good leader despite any egregious crimes/behavior in the past (i.e., Tigerstar I and Brokenstar).
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