Aroace
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jun 10, 2021 11:35:42 GMT -5
These pairings can be both canon and fanon.
For me it's LionCinder (way too much drama) and TwigFin (too much toxicity) in canon while I long ago stopped liking LionTiger (Lionheart x Tigerclaw) and another LionTiger (Lionblaze x Tigerheart) as fanon couples.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 10, 2021 11:50:03 GMT -5
TwigxFin is a big one, same goes for BramblexSquirrel and DovexBumble.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 10, 2021 12:23:47 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel (Got toxic WAY too fast) BumbleDove (I think that was supposed to be the endgame before it was decided the series was to go on after TLH and DS, as the thing with that triangle was supposed to be that first loves don't always work out, which I was perfectly fine with, and then in BrS Dovewing was single and it didn't work out, okay, fine, Bumble being ruined purely to hop up Tigerheart and push TigerDove? Listen, I love TigerDove but that was NOT fine) Lionheather (Stopped the moment Lionblaze got nasty at Heather) LionCinder (Too much drama and as a result turned me away from the ship before I could even get into it) TallJake (This is distinctive in that I still ship it a little bit. TallJake just has too little for me to go off of in terms of characters getting to really know eachother for me to really get into them as a believable pair. They're cute, but tumblr got me fooled in getting actually invested in them)
Might add more than I can think of later.
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Aroace
#ffa100
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jun 10, 2021 12:42:09 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel (Got toxic WAY too fast) BumbleDove (I think that was supposed to be the endgame before it was decided the series was to go on after TLH and DS, as the thing with that triangle was supposed to be that first loves don't always work out, which I was perfectly fine with, and then in BrS Dovewing was single and it didn't work out, okay, fine, Bumble being ruined purely to hop up Tigerheart and push TigerDove? Listen, I love TigerDove but that was NOT fine) Lionheather (Stopped the moment Lionblaze got nasty at Heather) LionCinder (Too much drama and as a result turned me away from the ship before I could even get into it) TallJake (This is distinctive in that I still ship it a little bit. TallJake just has too little for me to go off of in terms of characters getting to really know eachother for me to really get into them as a believable pair. They're cute, but tumblr got me fooled in getting actually invested in them)
Might add more than I can think of later. I have to agree with you on the fact that there isn't as much interaction between Tallstar and Jake as I would have hoped. Especially because I just got done re-reading Tallstar's Revenge recently and still have those two rather fresh in my mind. I also feel really bad for Tallstar because while he actually never took on a mate, Jake fathered a litter each with two other cats. So my backup for this failed romance is either TallBark or the headcanon in which TallJake are properly together in StarClan. (I never even liked the implications of BrambleSquirrel because their constant arguing made me feel very uncomfortable as a child. While I will probably always have a bit of a fondness for what LionHeather could have been if handled differently, there's LionIce or LionToad for me to fawn over, instead of this long sunken ship.)
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 10, 2021 13:43:17 GMT -5
lion x cinder, blue x oak, bramble x squirrel, breeze x heather
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 10, 2021 14:53:06 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel (Got toxic WAY too fast) BumbleDove (I think that was supposed to be the endgame before it was decided the series was to go on after TLH and DS, as the thing with that triangle was supposed to be that first loves don't always work out, which I was perfectly fine with, and then in BrS Dovewing was single and it didn't work out, okay, fine, Bumble being ruined purely to hop up Tigerheart and push TigerDove? Listen, I love TigerDove but that was NOT fine) Lionheather (Stopped the moment Lionblaze got nasty at Heather) LionCinder (Too much drama and as a result turned me away from the ship before I could even get into it) TallJake (This is distinctive in that I still ship it a little bit. TallJake just has too little for me to go off of in terms of characters getting to really know eachother for me to really get into them as a believable pair. They're cute, but tumblr got me fooled in getting actually invested in them)
Might add more than I can think of later. I have to agree with you on the fact that there isn't as much interaction between Tallstar and Jake as I would have hoped. Especially because I just got done re-reading Tallstar's Revenge recently and still have those two rather fresh in my mind. I also feel really bad for Tallstar because while he actually never took on a mate, Jake fathered a litter each with two other cats. So my backup for this failed romance is either TallBark or the headcanon in which TallJake are properly together in StarClan. Honestly it's what's so frustrating to me about that ship. I was SO hyped up about it, I saw all the fanart and thought they were adorable as hell, I even saw many posts praising how great the ship was for a M/M cat pair. I even shipped them immediately on the first reading. Only to see on the second reading and even a third that it's... not that greatly written? Like the thing is I know the shtick with the gay cats thing and publishing, but I was so disappointed in how little we got to see Jake and Talltail get to know each other, know each other better. Jake at one point says something like he knows that he wouldn't kill a cat but like... he really doesn't, he really does not and that frustrates me. I WANT to lovee it, but I ended up liking TallBark as an on-off thing more than the TallJake ship. I get that there's things like summer romances and all that and the like and that's probs what it was in the end, but I still expected a little more ya know? Hell, Jake doesn't even appear until long into the book with me having a few instances beforehand of wondering if THIS or THAT is when he was gonna come in only to not, like halfway in, and they only know eachother for at maximum a week (Indeed I kept track) and that's it before they separate. So as it stands it's stuck in that Neutral/Like place and yet I really wish it was higher than that. u.u My sorta fallback is the TallBark ship and like you said, the idea that Tallstar and Jake are together in Starclan. Maybe TallBarkJake as a poly thing in Starclan idk, it's just a HC but it's at least something.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 10, 2021 15:01:46 GMT -5
I have to agree with you on the fact that there isn't as much interaction between Tallstar and Jake as I would have hoped. Especially because I just got done re-reading Tallstar's Revenge recently and still have those two rather fresh in my mind. I also feel really bad for Tallstar because while he actually never took on a mate, Jake fathered a litter each with two other cats. So my backup for this failed romance is either TallBark or the headcanon in which TallJake are properly together in StarClan. Honestly it's what's so frustrating to me about that ship. I was SO hyped up about it, I saw all the fanart and thought they were adorable as hell, I even saw many posts praising how great the ship was for a M/M cat pair. I even shipped them immediately on the first reading. Only to see on the second reading and even a third that it's... not that greatly written? Like the thing is I know the shtick with the gay cats thing and publishing, but I was so disappointed in how little we got to see Jake and Talltail get to know each other, know each other better. Jake at one point says something like he knows that he wouldn't kill a cat but like... he really doesn't, he really does not and that frustrates me. I WANT to lovee it, but I ended up liking TallBark as an on-off thing more than the TallJake ship. I get that there's things like summer romances and all that and the like and that's probs what it was in the end, but I still expected a little more ya know? Hell, they only know eachother for at maximum a week in the book (Indeed I kept track) and that's it before they separate. So as it stands it's stuck in that Neutral/Like place and yet I really wish it was higher than that. u.u My sorta fallback is the TallBark ship and like you said, the idea that Tallstar and Jake are together in Starclan. Maybe TallBarkJake as a poly thing in Starclan idk, it's just a HC but it's at least something. Honestly, it's almost relieving to see someone else who doesn't ship TallJake. Even in my first reading, I didn't think it was all that great, not helped at all by the fact that they barely knew each other. TallBark had more chemistry than these two did, and I think the only tom I ship Jake with to an extent is Pinestar, if only because it's a little funny to think about, given who their sons are.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Jun 10, 2021 15:06:59 GMT -5
I remember not really shipping TallJake either. For starters Talltail ditches Jake for good as soon as their little adventure is over.
Like considering Windclan didn't seem to mind outsiders living in their clan, you'd think Talltail would at least introduce Jake to the clan and let him visit sometimes.
As for no longer shipped ships it's gotta be Bluepaw X Crookedpaw --- since later on in Bluestar's Prophecy they end up fighting eachother over Sunningrocks
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Bisexual
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finland
Porgs are love
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Post by finland on Jun 10, 2021 16:06:22 GMT -5
I used to ship Blossom x Ivy.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jun 10, 2021 17:43:36 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel. My love for it dropped in OOTS and completely tanked in SqH.
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Post by Rainfire on Jun 10, 2021 18:27:41 GMT -5
I loved BrambleSquirrel soooo much in POT and a small part of me will always wish I could love it again, but I can't. I hate them together.
While I certainly don't hate FinTwig the way I did immediately following TRS, I don't think I'll ever be able to truly like them again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 18:37:42 GMT -5
I really wanted to like TallJake, it was hyped up as super cute and tragic and the #1 MLM ship, but there was...pretty much nothing going for it. Jake didn't even appear for like 50% of the book, and when he did Talltail acted like Jake was a nuisance he had to drag along with him. Then he suddenly turns around and is almost bawling for him to stay out of nowhere. RavenBarley is much better, cute and well developed over time.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 10, 2021 20:39:28 GMT -5
MothPool and BlossomIvy
Thought they were cute at first.
Now I hate them
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 11, 2021 5:35:38 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel: Bramblestar deserves better than someone that lies to him and goes behind his back. DoveBumble: Bumblestripe deserves better than just being Dovewing's scratching post. LionHeather: Considering how he treated her, this pairing makes me gag. CrowLeaf: At first I didn't mind it, but considering the outcome of everything it's a pretty crappy pairing. BlossomIvy: Found out about it through fanart, but now I can't stand it though. Mothpool: Still somewhat neutral on it, but I don't care for it much enough to say I ship it anymore. CloudDaisy: At first I thought it was cute, but now knowing he only cared about her cause of her kits, it's meh.
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Post by scarletflames on Jun 12, 2021 0:51:28 GMT -5
Most of my ships haven't changed over the years, but two come to mind:
Back when I first read Dark River, I was a pretty hardcore shipper of LionxHeather. It was the first book I read in the series, and my first intro to forbidden love. I still think they had a lot of cute moments in DR, and I have nostalgia for how happy shipping them made me feel back as a kid; but I definitely don't ship them now lol. I had a feeling Heather would get with Breeze after the breakup and the (catmint?) scene with Lion, but it took sooo long before they became mates it really frustrated me! I now ship HeatherxBreeze.
I also no longer ship DovexBumble. Warning, rant below on my thoughts on DovexBumble and DovexTiger that bashes Dovewing and DovexTiger pretty badly. If you're a die-hard Dovewing lover or die-hard shipper of DivexTiger, feel free to ignore the rant below:
I haven't caught up with AVOS, but even though I loathe DovexTiger and it's one of my most hated ships at this point (I'm not looking forward to Tigerfart's Shadow); I no longer ship DovexBumble. It rubs me the wrong way how she used him as a rebound (if I'm using that term correctly)/used Bumble to get over Tigerfart when she still loved Tigerfart. That really wasn't fair to Bumble who genuinely had feelings for her. After TLH when Bumble said something like Dove "wasn't the cat he thought she was and he'd get over his hurt feelings" I actually thought that was pretty empowering even if Bumble's wording was harsh.
It was not Bumble's fault Dove didn't love him. It seriously rubbed me the wrong way every time Dove thought to herself about how much better Tigerfart supposedly was... the cat who held her sister hostage and constantly prioritized Shadowclan over her. But apparently an insecure, clingy but loving mate with a name she didn't like (didn't one of the Erins say Dove didn't like Bumble's name?) was apparently a worse mate than the one from a different clan who constantly prioritized said clan over her and was even manipulative towards her for his clan's gain and freaking held her sister hostage for herbs that Dove stupidly told him about! (I'm still pissed Dove knew Tigerfart cat-napped Ivypaw and slept in her nest without alerting anyone because then they'd know about her stupid romance with stupid Tigerfart... uggghhh! So even after Tiger put Shadowclan above Dovewing, she was apparently A-Okay putting hiding their forbidden romance over her sister's safety... Okay, I'm gonna stop now, needless to day I'm still pissed by that scene.)
It's been a long time since I've read OOTS, I know it takes two to tango so to speak and I know Bumble might have been "overly-clingy", but I feel with their relationship struggles, it was (mostly) because Dove did not communicate clearly with Bumble, so of course Bumble wouldn't have known how to make his relationship better with his mate who didn't clearly communicate or set boundaries with him (it's been a long time since I've read OOTS, but that was my impression of DovexBumble when I was reading it).
I got the impression Dove wasn't communicating clearly when she'd: frequently push Bumble away emotionally without explaining to him how she really felt, but in DS occasionally showed affection to him in and being warmer to him. (Which probably really confused Bumble because of the mixed messages, was Dove gonna push him away that day or were they going to pleasantly share tongues that day?) Dove snapped at Bumble a fair amount and used him as a scratching post, not to mention the internal dialogue of her frequently comparing Bumble to Tiger when they were two different cats and she was no longer with Tiger... it just wasn't fair to Bumble. Maybe i'm wrong but whatever Bumble's flaws (only one I can think of was he was insecure and clingy... gee whiz, could his dysfunctional family situation have had any impact on why he wanted to be so close to Dove?); I feel Dove contributed wayyy more to the relationship issues before TLH.
I was so glad when they broke up in TLH, and was so damned upset when they got back together. They never should have gotten back together! I thought it was really great character development when Bumble basically called out Dove for using him in TLH. I didn't have any sympathy for Dove back then because Bumble was right- he didn't know Dove was a cat who'd string him along and play with his realfeelings for her just to appear loyal to her clan (I'm getting reminded of NightxCrow and feeling a rush of sympathy for Night being used by Crow as a "look at me, I'm sooo loyal to my clan!" prop just like Dove did to Bumble).
I've heard that later on in the series, the Erins make Bumble's character worse just to make Tigerfart look like a better mate, even after all the times Tiger proved Shadowclan would always come before Dovewing. I really don't look forward to AVOS and beyond because I hate DovexTiger so much. I just hope Bumble gets a mate in TC who actually loves him later in the series. He didn't deserve to be used by Dove, and he didn't deserve the Erins butchering him.
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Post by downfalls on Jun 14, 2021 15:36:33 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel, LionHeather, BlossomThorn, TigerDove, BlueOak.
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Heterosexual
Epic Grandmaster of Headcanons
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Message me your headcanons pls
Pronouns: He/him/his (but they's good too)
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Jun 14, 2021 15:45:18 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel, IvyBlossom, OakBlue, DoveTiger
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Jun 14, 2021 16:11:11 GMT -5
BrambleSquirrel and HeatherLion
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Post by Fallenflower on Jun 17, 2021 16:15:08 GMT -5
Bramblesquirrel
I liked them when it was popular, but after watching Moonkitti's video, I can't ship it anymore.
Lionheather
I stopped shipping them because of Breezeheather and Lioncinder.
Talljake
I used to ship it but then I wondered: Didn't Jake get with Nutmeg afterwards?
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 17, 2021 17:27:34 GMT -5
I used to ship it but then I wondered: Didn't Jake get with Nutmeg afterwards? I mean he was with Quincy(?) at the time I believe. But that doesn't mean anything regarding him and Talltail's relationship. The dude was just pretty much polyamorous.
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Post by Fallenflower on Jun 17, 2021 17:55:12 GMT -5
👆 Jake would be polygamous instead of polyamorous, since polygamy is having more than one spouse (mate in this case) while polyamory is about everyone consenting. But yeah, I think I'll just multiship Jake.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 17, 2021 17:59:53 GMT -5
👆 Jake would be polygamous instead of polyamorous, since polygamy is having more than one spouse (mate in this case) while polyamory is about everyone consenting. But yeah, I think I'll just multiship Jake. Either, way, that dude poly. I always mix the two up ty. :P
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jul 6, 2021 7:48:21 GMT -5
Twigbranch x Finleap, Bramblestar x Squirrelflight, Crowfeather x Leafpool
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