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Post by ʙʀᴀᴄᴋᴇɴꜱᴜɴ ♞ on Jun 6, 2021 12:56:22 GMT -5
So, a very common occurrence in warriors is for a warrior to suddenly change/be written about in a completely contrasting way to how they were before. Now, for some warriors this can be great, but for some others...not so great.
And so my question is: which characters do you wish never changed?
P.S I find it hilarious when cats become warriors/leaders and are suddenly incredibly wise and English literature majors.
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Post by Snowfire on Jun 6, 2021 13:06:22 GMT -5
Mistystar, she isn’t like who she was before she became leader, now she sucks. Jagged Peak, ever since he got together with Holly, he became a jerk. Bramblestar, I liked him back in TPB, he isn’t that same cat I liked. Onestar, like Misty and Jagged, he became a massive jerk after becoming leader.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jun 6, 2021 13:23:08 GMT -5
Dovewing. I wish she had remained the way she was in BrS. I love her character in TBC but sometimes i wish her character developement hadn't regressed.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 6, 2021 13:23:46 GMT -5
bramblestar. i think he was better as deputy. when he became leader he tried too hard to be like firestar and now in TBC, he's an OOC jerk out of nowhere
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 6, 2021 13:24:51 GMT -5
bramblestar. i think he was better as deputy. when he became leader he tried too hard to be like firestar and now in TBC, he's an OOC jerk out of nowhere How is he a jerk in TBC? That’s an odd claim
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Post by Mothdapple on Jun 6, 2021 13:26:45 GMT -5
bramblestar. i think he was better as deputy. when he became leader he tried too hard to be like firestar and now in TBC, he's an OOC jerk out of nowhere How is he a jerk in TBC? That’s an odd claim I think she meant SqH.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 6, 2021 13:27:33 GMT -5
bramblestar. i think he was better as deputy. when he became leader he tried too hard to be like firestar and now in TBC, he's an OOC jerk out of nowhere How is he a jerk in TBC? That’s an odd claim he's one in squirrelflight's hope. tons of people hate him for it. i dont think he was a huge jerk though
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 6, 2021 13:28:00 GMT -5
Mothdappleyeah, my bad. that SE goes right into TBC So i got it mixed up
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jun 6, 2021 13:37:17 GMT -5
Tigerheart. It was fine that he matured as he grew, but I liked his funny and easygoing personality in TFA. It's kind of rare for a main character from Warriors to be more lighthearted and playful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 14:08:59 GMT -5
Thistleclaw maaaannnn. Spottedleaf's Heart is a crime. Now I don't even know how to feel about Thistleclaw because of this frick fracking book. Like Tigerclaw was right there??
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Aroace
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Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jun 6, 2021 15:19:21 GMT -5
Bramblestar. He was way better as deputy and before his whole drama with Squirrelflight got out of control. I still love him though and he has been a comfort character of mine for a long time despite all of his faults.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 6, 2021 17:14:05 GMT -5
Thistleclaw, I hate the existence of SpH. Leafpool, her drama with Crowfeather really ruined my enjoyment of her character for the longest time. Dovewing, she was doing good in DwS and BrS, then they ruined her as well. Ashfur, as much as I adore villain Ashfur, I still can't help but remember tiny Ashpaw letting out a battle cry after he and the other apprentices killed Bone. And also his cute friendship with Bramblestar, it makes me so sad... Yellowfang, after she went to StarClan she just went down hill from there. Hollyleaf, she should have stayed dead instead of coming back as that shell of her former self in OotS. Squirrelflight, SqH ruined any neutrality I had toward her character.
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Asexual
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🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jun 6, 2021 17:16:56 GMT -5
Spottedleaf. Her thing for Firestar just wasn't needed.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Jun 6, 2021 17:21:38 GMT -5
Onewhisker.
Before he became the shit storm known as Onestar.
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Post by dreamingof on Jun 6, 2021 18:08:02 GMT -5
I am not a fan of the new Mistystar characterization this arc. She banishes Mothwing for being half-clan when Mistystar herself was tortured for it and her brother died because he was half-clan. Mothwing was also Mistystar's apprentice apparently, which I assume would hint at a close bond between them. I don't know if they're taking Mistystar's character in the same angle as paranoid Bluestar in her last moons, but as it is, it doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 6, 2021 18:50:08 GMT -5
Thistleclaw maaaannnn. Spottedleaf's Heart is a crime. Now I don't even know how to feel about Thistleclaw because of this frick fracking book. Like Tigerclaw was right there?? I'm pretty sure it was a purposeful character assassination. Vicky didn't like Thistleclaw, probably didn't like how he had fans, and so she made him do something unforgivable. I literally ignore the book for that reason
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Post by Aqua on Jun 6, 2021 19:52:22 GMT -5
I really wish Breezepelt never changed. I liked him a lot as a villain, I thought he was interesting, with the dark forest feeding onto his insecurities and turning that to hatred and manipulating him to turn on Crowfeather and his brothers. He was a well developed character, I liked him as Breezepaw too and felt sorry for him then. Breezepelt did a lot of crappy things as a character back then that made him feel like a villain, but then his "redemption" came along. Breezepelt is no longer the malicious cat, but instead some soft gentle big boy with daddy issues. I really don't like what the writers did to him tbh. He wasn't exiled for the crimes he has done, even if he failed to do them, he still tried to kill others. A failed plan doesn't mean anything. He chose the Dark forest, laughed when Hollyleaf died, wanted to kill his disabled brother, almost did kill his other brother, attacked a WindClan cat, and threatened a pregnant queen. Breezepelt is a tryant, not a troublesome child, and should have never had the "redemption" in CT. Now I just don't care for him, loathing him entirely, living his happy life with Heathertail and his kits while Hollyleaf, Needletail, and some other genuinely good characters who worked their asses off to prove themselves died. Screw this guy.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Jun 6, 2021 20:59:50 GMT -5
Thistleclaw maaaannnn. Spottedleaf's Heart is a crime. Now I don't even know how to feel about Thistleclaw because of this frick fracking book. Like Tigerclaw was right there?? agreed
tigerclaw would have been way more fitting
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Post by Rainsplash on Jun 6, 2021 21:09:06 GMT -5
Mistystar and Bramblestar are now hypocrites. Mistystar's all "Half-Clans should be banished!" and Bramblestar's all "I hate to see another Tigerstar in the forest..." I like the villain Ashfur but I loved Ashpaw, cute little Ashpaw
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 6, 2021 21:13:34 GMT -5
Mistystar and Bramblestar are now hypocrites. Mistystar's all "Half-Clans should be banished!" and Bramblestar's all "I hate to see another Tigerstar in the forest..." I like the villain Ashfur but I loved Ashpaw, cute little Ashpaw To be fair, Bramblestar was right about Tigerheart ending up being terrible at first.
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Post by Rainsplash on Jun 6, 2021 21:53:53 GMT -5
Mistystar and Bramblestar are now hypocrites. Mistystar's all "Half-Clans should be banished!" and Bramblestar's all "I hate to see another Tigerstar in the forest..." I like the villain Ashfur but I loved Ashpaw, cute little Ashpaw To be fair, Bramblestar was right about Tigerheart ending up being terrible at first. I'm at loss for words
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 6, 2021 22:22:41 GMT -5
Mistystar and Bramblestar are now hypocrites. Mistystar's all "Half-Clans should be banished!" and Bramblestar's all "I hate to see another Tigerstar in the forest..." I like the villain Ashfur but I loved Ashpaw, cute little Ashpaw To be fair, Bramblestar was right about Tigerheart ending up being terrible at first. But definitely awful in a different and less severe way that Tigerstar 1 But has Tigerheart ever been likable?
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 6, 2021 22:26:29 GMT -5
To be fair, Bramblestar was right about Tigerheart ending up being terrible at first. But definitely awful in a different and less severe way that Tigerstar 1 But has Tigerheart ever been likable? Not as bad as the first, true, but he was still a horrible nightmare for Skyclan and it's really only as of TBC where he's stopped being down there as one of the most jerk leaders around in a while. I can see why Brambleclaw would be weary given the circumstances.
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Post by raptor on Jun 6, 2021 22:48:24 GMT -5
Yellowfang
Honestly I'd rather have never seen her again after her death than see her act like how she does in later books, Leafpool's Wish especially
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 6, 2021 22:52:36 GMT -5
Yellowfang Honestly I'd rather have never seen her again after her death than see her act like how she does in later books, Leafpool's Wish especially It's sad because she temporarily gets her brain back (even though everyone else loses theirs?) in SqH
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Post by cygna on Jun 7, 2021 7:26:05 GMT -5
Bumblestripe - poor thing
Ashfur - don’t hate him as a villain but preferred him when he was good
Dovewing- they turned her into a really selfish brat
Mothwing & Mistystar - enough said
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jun 8, 2021 0:44:36 GMT -5
Yellowfang Honestly I'd rather have never seen her again after her death than see her act like how she does in later books, Leafpool's Wish especially It's sad because she temporarily gets her brain back (even though everyone else loses theirs?) in SqH Everyone just donated their brain cells to her so she could say something insightful for once.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jun 8, 2021 0:46:38 GMT -5
Surprised no one's said Jayfeather yet.
Dude's been getting tossed around like a ragdoll in the characterization department ever since FE, with the first third of TBC being particularly turbulent.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 8, 2021 0:48:53 GMT -5
It's sad because she temporarily gets her brain back (even though everyone else loses theirs?) in SqH Everyone just donated their brain cells to her so she could say something insightful for once. Littlecloud (who was so OOC and like...super weird in that scene) and Moth Flight must have been the primary donators Because Yellowfang was the only one speaking sense. 'I mean...we all broke the code and she's a good cat. Maybe we shouldn't be judging her.'
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