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Post by Mothdapple on May 30, 2021 15:35:32 GMT -5
Who are some cats from each Clan currently who you think should retire to the elders’ den?
For me...
TC: Squirrelflight: The girl honestly needs a break. She needs to have some peace after the craziness of TBC. I would put Thornclaw, but I think it’s more in his personality to stay as a warrior for as long as possible and then die in battle or something instead. I would also say Whitewing but it would be kinda awkward being there with her parents lol.
ShC: Snowbird: She’s old. Her brother Ratscar was an elder, so she probably should be too. Tawnypelt: It’s about time for her to retire. She’s getting old.
SkC: I’m not sure. Maybe Cherrytail and Sparrowpelt? Or Macgyver?
WC: Nightcloud: She is said to be older than Crowfeather, and Crowfeather himself is quite old. Crowfeather: He is around the same age as Squirrelflight and Leafpool, so it’s getting around time. WindClan needs a younger deputy.
RC: Reedwhisker: I don’t want him to be leader. He’s way too old. If he doesn’t die, I’d like for him to retire. He was a kit in the first arc.
Special Case: Mothwing. I’m hoping she returns to RiverClan to train Frostpaw, then dies not much long after. But if she doesn’t die, I hope she retires not long after finishing Frostpaw’s training. She’s old.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on May 30, 2021 16:18:29 GMT -5
To be honest, there’s so many characters that aren’t given development but they may as well be retired even though some of them are young. It’s hard to even keep track of the ages anymore...
But on that subject, I feel like leaders should be allowed to retire, and the leader ceremony would recognize that and give the leader of the new name at nine lives. It’s stated that leaders can retire, but it never happens (I don’t count Rowanclaw because he didn’t retire from old age, but rather chose to give up the leader rank because he felt it would help protect his Clan). Pinestar, Bluestar, Nightstar, Mistystar, and Tallstar all suffered (or in Mistystar’s case is still suffering) from being forced to remain leader when they really should’ve retired and been in the elders done, or someone should’ve been able to convince them. So I find the fact that leaders can’t retire when they need to when everyone else can is ridiculous, especially since in real life, people in positions of power can and do retire when they can’t handle the duties anymore. Not imagine having an old and frail leader can be dangerous and stressful on the deputy (definitely seen with Bluestar and Firestar, and Mistystar is worried about this before she gets her nine lives). I would add Bramblestar to that list, but he’s never shown having problems with his age and more so having problems with the chaos he was thrust into.
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Post by Featherstar on May 30, 2021 17:58:43 GMT -5
Thornclaw.
Seriously, his brother Brackenfur and his sister Brightheart are elders!
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 30, 2021 18:32:55 GMT -5
everyone from the first 3 arcs should either die or retire by now.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 30, 2021 19:47:01 GMT -5
Everyone who was alive in arcs 1-3 and is still alive today.
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Post by Lionstrike on May 31, 2021 9:29:15 GMT -5
Graystripe! He is now acting leader in Thunderclan but was alive in the first book!
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Post by Lionstrike on May 31, 2021 9:29:33 GMT -5
Graystripe! He is now acting leader in Thunderclan but was alive in the first book!
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Post by Cloudy Sky on May 31, 2021 9:58:14 GMT -5
Graystripe! He is now acting leader in Thunderclan but was alive in the first book! Did you mean to post this twice?
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Post by Mothdapple on May 31, 2021 10:12:20 GMT -5
Graystripe! He is now acting leader in Thunderclan but was alive in the first book! He was already an elder though?? And once BrambleSquirrel return, I don’t see him NOT going back to being an elder.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on May 31, 2021 10:45:04 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Birchfall, Whitewing, Squirrelflight,
ShadowClan: Tawnypelt, Snowbird, Scorchfur.
WindClan: Crowfeather, Nightcloud, maybe Sedgewhisker?
RiverClan: REEDWHISKER and Mothwing.
SkyClan: LEAFSTAR
There's not many characters i want to retire, but i want atleast one of these.
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Post by Mothdapple on May 31, 2021 11:12:38 GMT -5
I think she’s fine. She was a kit in POT. One of the ones in Dark River that got lost in the tunnels.
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Post by Thunderheart57 on May 31, 2021 14:19:26 GMT -5
I think that the remaining cats from TPB, some of the cats from TNP era, and the cats in the books taking place around that time between the first and second series should retire or be killed off. It’s crazy to me that some like Mistystar and Reedwhisker are still around given their age. Mistystar is at least 17 years old according to a thread calculating her age across the series. Reedwhisker may not be that behind in terms of how long he lived since Forest of Secrets. Other characters I think should go that haven’t been mentioned are Fallowfern, MacGyver, Cherrytail, and a few others. I think that the cats from POT, OotS, AVOS, and TBC are fine. If anything, a few from the third series can retire like some have mentioned.
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Post by Mothdapple on May 31, 2021 15:22:28 GMT -5
I think that the remaining cats from TPB, some of the cats from TNP era, and the cats in the books taking place around that time between the first and second series should retire or be killed off. It’s crazy to me that some like Mistystar and Reedwhisker are still around given their age. Mistystar is at least 17 years old according to a thread calculating her age across the series. Reedwhisker may not be that behind in terms of how long he lived since Forest of Secrets. Other characters I think should go that haven’t been mentioned are Fallowfern, MacGyver, Cherrytail, and a few others. I think that the cats from POT, OotS, AVOS, and TBC are fine. If anything, a few from the third series can retire like some have mentioned. Fallowfern is already an elder. And yeah, I think Cherrytail, Sparrowpelt, and Macgyver should retire too.
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Post by *Faith* on May 31, 2021 17:09:29 GMT -5
TPB and TNP cats are the oldest. Also the ones from FQ and SD. These ages might not be correct, but basically:
TC: Thornclaw is around 12 and his littermates have already retired. Bramblestar is around 11.17. Whitewing is around 9.83, though that one would be the most awkward since her parents are currently in the elders den. Squirrelflight is around 9.5. Birchfall is around 8.92. Mousewhisker is around 8.24... though I still want him to have kits just so Daisy can have more kin. Gosh do I ever feel bad for her. Speaking of which, we don't actually know how old Daisy is, but she was called old at one point in AVOS. Cinderheart and Poppyfrost are around 8.17.
ShC: We don't have actual ages for Snowbird and Icewing. Though Ratscar and Snowbird are supposed to be littermates and Ratscar has been alive since the first series. He also retired after the DF battle and is no longer listed in the allegiances. Icewing is clearly older than Minnowtail. I'd say she might be in the 9-10 age range, but it's hard to say. Like with Bramblestar, Tawnypelt is around 11.17. Mothwing is around 10.33. Doubt it will happen this series, but maybe next.
SkC: This one is kind of hard to calculate since we don't have the ages for most of these cats. Leafstar and Macgyver were already warrior age when they joined. Sparrowpelt and Cherrytail were apprentices, so they would at the very least be around the 10-11 age range. Tinycloud is around 10.1. Mintfur and Sagenose are around 9.74. Frecklewish, Plumwillow, Nettlesplash and Rabbitleap should technically be in the 9 year old age range as well. Frecklewish was an apprentice in SD, while Plum, Rabbit and Nettle were kits. Squirrel and Leaf were around kit age alongside them I think.
WC: We don't have ages for Emberfoot, Leaftail and Nightcloud, though we know Nightcloud to be older than Crowfeather. Crowfeather is around 9.93.
RC: Mistystar... oh boy. I have her at around 15.5, while the wiki has her at around 16.6. Reedwhisker... is immensely confusing. From an older kit in FOS, to a younger apprentice in Moonrise. If we go by his appearance in FOS, then he is around 11.24. We don't have an age for Duskfur, but she debuted as a warrior in Eclipse. Minnowtail is around 8.42, but I still wouldn't mind her being leader or, at the very least, deputy.
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Post by ʙʀᴀᴄᴋᴇɴꜱᴜɴ ♞ on May 31, 2021 17:34:54 GMT -5
I'm sure there are plenty, but in my opinion, the Warriors retirement age is way too young. My cat passed away at 17 years old, and only in the last 2 or 3 years of his life did a significant change occur in his skill. (rip btw. He died in around feb this year)
I think a good time for retirement would be about 11 - 12, potentially more depending on ability, rather than the strict 8 that it seems to currently be.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jun 1, 2021 11:33:47 GMT -5
TC Squirrelflight and Thornclaw
ShC Tawnypelt and Snowbird
SkC Cherrytail and her brother Sparrowpelt
WC Nightcloud and Crowfeather
RC Mothwing (after training Frostpaw) and Reedwhisker
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Post by Lionstrike on Jun 2, 2021 15:00:00 GMT -5
No, sorry, that was an accident.
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Post by Aqua on Jun 2, 2021 16:19:34 GMT -5
Brackenfur: Please, let the poor guy rest in peace with Sorreltail and Seedpaw.
Graystripe: This guy has had enough heartache. Let him rest with Firestar, Silverstream, and Millie.
Tawnypelt: Same reasons as the other two, I want her to be at peace with her family. Poor girl has been through too much.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 2, 2021 16:23:16 GMT -5
Brackenfur: Please, let the poor guy rest in peace with Sorreltail and Seedpaw. Graystripe: This guy has had enough heartache. Let him rest with Firestar, Silverstream, and Millie. This is a retirement thread and these two are already elders.
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Post by Aqua on Jun 2, 2021 16:24:28 GMT -5
Brackenfur: Please, let the poor guy rest in peace with Sorreltail and Seedpaw. Graystripe: This guy has had enough heartache. Let him rest with Firestar, Silverstream, and Millie. This is a retirement thread and these two are already elders. Brackenfur is an elder? Since when?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 2, 2021 16:25:33 GMT -5
This is a retirement thread and these two are already elders. Brackenfur is an elder? Since when? Since the start of TBC (chronologically, since SqH). Cloudtail and Brightheart, too.
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