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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 28, 2021 19:07:34 GMT -5
was thinking about this for another AU.
what if nutmeg goes out to the woods to look for jake, but she ends up giving birth in thunderclan territory? bluestar and spottedleaf already had the fire omen, so they end up taking in firestar (let's say one of nutmeg's kittypet friends finds them and takes the other kits to their twolegs, while bluestar insists they keep the fiery-red ginger tom for thunderclan).
if firestar was raised in thunderclan (maybe he's graystripe's adopted brother and was raised with him by willowpelt), how would the first arc turn out instead?
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Post by Mothdapple on May 28, 2021 19:17:44 GMT -5
I don’t think it would be much different, honestly. Firestar would still be hated by some cats for not being ThunderClan blood. Maybe his bond with Graystripe would’ve been even stronger because then they’d be practically brothers. Also, he would be close to Willowpelt as his adoptive mother. Otherwise, I don’t think there would be much of a difference in the plot other than the start.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 28, 2021 19:35:20 GMT -5
I don’t think it would be much different, honestly. Firestar would still be hated by some cats for not being ThunderClan blood. Maybe his bond with Graystripe would’ve been even stronger because then they’d be practically brothers. Also, he would be close to Willowpelt as his adoptive mother. Otherwise, I don’t think there would be much of a difference in the plot other than the start. true. there'd just be a lot less over the top world explaining and no time skipping (i think into the wild had a small time skip which is why firepaw and spottedleaf were suddenly close right before she died? implying over the little time skip, he got closer to her?)
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Post by Brindlefern on May 28, 2021 19:42:13 GMT -5
I always thought of and referred Sunstar for instance as an example of a Clan-born Firestar. (Keywords being clanborn, nothing to say on his blood, it's easy to guess he'd still be judged for that). So yeah outside maybe being similar in personality perhaps and not having that true outsider perspective he came with in ITW I have a feeling not much will change in the long run. And yeah the plot wouldn't really change.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 28, 2021 19:54:37 GMT -5
I always thought of and referred Sunstar for instance as an example of a Clan-born Firestar. (Keywords being clanborn, nothing to say on his blood, it's easy to guess he'd still be judged for that). So yeah outside maybe being similar in personality perhaps and not having that true outsider perspective he came with in ITW I have a feeling not much will change in the long run. And yeah the plot wouldn't really change. ooh u know what u made me realize? what if the reason firestar was so rebllious and helpful was that he was an outsider...? if he was raised in the clans, would he be less likely to break rules to help others?
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 29, 2021 16:13:01 GMT -5
I also feel like nothing would change as much besides perhaps Firestar's initial outlook on Clan politics and views on Outsiders. I'm quite certain that one of the more prejudiced other cats could've told him of his true heritage at some point though because it's just how these specific storylines go most of the time. He should become more like his canon self after this.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 29, 2021 16:22:16 GMT -5
I also feel like nothing would change as much besides perhaps Firestar's initial outlook on Clan politics and views on Outsiders. I'm quite certain that one of the more prejudiced other cats could've told him of his true heritage at some point though because it's just how these specific storylines go most of the time. He should become more like his canon self after this. it would also be interesting once we get to bramblekit. if firestar was judged as a kit for being from kittypet parents, then he'd be more sympathic to bramblekit and wouldnt judge him as much.
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Post by Katanaheart on May 29, 2021 16:38:27 GMT -5
A lot of things would change. Being raised amongst the Clan would make him more loyal to the code and the Clan, itself. He would likely follow suit alongside most of the Clan and assume Ravenpaw was lying or misinterpreted what he actually saw. Since Tigerclaw has been a good and loyal warrior in his eyes. Yellowfang would have merely been some rogue driven off instead of helping with Brokenstar, let alone becoming ThunderClan’s medicine cat.
The battle with WindClan would have occurred since Fireheart wouldn’t have disobeyed Bluestar, leading to unnecessary bloodshed. RiverClan would have been worse off without food during that one leafbare. Graystripe may have been ratted out before Silverstream’s pregnancy forcing him to live in RiverClan due to a desire to be more loyal to the code and Clan that adopted him, instead.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 29, 2021 16:43:55 GMT -5
I also feel like nothing would change as much besides perhaps Firestar's initial outlook on Clan politics and views on Outsiders. I'm quite certain that one of the more prejudiced other cats could've told him of his true heritage at some point though because it's just how these specific storylines go most of the time. He should become more like his canon self after this. it would also be interesting once we get to bramblekit. if firestar was judged as a kit for being from kittypet parents, then he'd be more sympathic to bramblekit and wouldnt judge him as much. I certainly hope that Firestar wouldn't be as biased because this always bothered me greatly during canon.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 29, 2021 17:11:12 GMT -5
Firestar would have grown up surrounded by the social customs and culture of ThunderClan, meaning that he'd be a lot more prejudiced against non-ThunderClan cats, he wouldn't break the rules as much, and he'd probably be more or less a generic ThunderClan character. Since those first two traits of Firestar's influenced his actions and thinking all throughout TPB, a lot would change- pretty much all what Katanaheart said.
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