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Post by cygna on May 20, 2021 12:45:59 GMT -5
Thoughts?
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Post by Snowfire on May 20, 2021 12:48:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure if either one of them would be better, Mudclaw could be a fierce leader but might've been bloodthirsty, Onestar is a total jerk and always try to pick fights with TC. I honestly think neither of them would be good leaders.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 12:53:24 GMT -5
Ashfoot or Deadfoot should have been leader. Both Mud and One are awful
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Post by vectoring34 on May 20, 2021 12:58:37 GMT -5
Mudclaw as leader means Hawkfrost as deputy. That means Mudclaw gets stabbed in the back ASAP because he thought that the traitor was trustworthy and so the real leader of Windclan ends up being Hawkfrost. And that is VERY bad.
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Post by Redstorm on May 20, 2021 13:47:42 GMT -5
Imo Onestar still better. I think Onestar got paranoid and over compensated after the Mudclaw coup. He wanted to show how he was "strong" esp because so many of his cats supported Mudclaw. I trust Tallstar's judgement to have made the right choice. And the way Mudclaw handled it was a true testament to his judgement/aggression.
Funnily enough if they just switched Onestar with Mudstar in later books, it probably would've fit pretty well. Mudstar attacking other clans? Fathering Darktail? Etc. Although I do think Mudclaw battles would be a lot more deadly, I believe nobody died in Eclipse.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 20, 2021 14:28:30 GMT -5
its all speculation, but i strongly belive if nothing got in mudclaw's way, he would actually be the strong leader tallstar wanted. all mudclaw did prior to the journey was put his clan first and do his duties as deputy and warrior in keeping borders safe. he was rightfully paranoid about this because of windclan being driven out by shadowclan. he helped tallstar and his clan through that period of time. he knows what his clan needs to be rebuild and make sure no clan drives them out ever again.
and since mudclaw has no personal grudge against thunderclan like onestar did, mudclaw wouldn't be going to pointless battles over nothing. if anything, there'd be border skirmishes since windclan would grow more aggressive in protecting themselves in their early lake terriroty stages. onestar grew to resent firestar for pressuring him to become leader, thus the eclipse battle happened. mudclaw would have no personal grudge to thunderclan. his only gripe would be thunderclan not staying inside their border from time to time.
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