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Post by Aqua on May 18, 2021 14:20:37 GMT -5
I have been wanting to talk about her for a little while now, and I realized I still like Cinderheart, even when I'm older. I don't think she's the best written character, but I don't see a reason to hate her. Cinderheart is friendly, looks after Lionblaze so he won't get hurt, and supports her friends. I also really liked LionxCinder, and how they named their kits after their deceased ancestors. CinderxLion is a healthy couple, and they learned to support each other and care for one another after the whole "destiny drama".
I really didn't like how that part of her story was handled, but otherwise Cinderheart is fine as her own character. I see her as her own individual character, while Cinderpelt is at peace in StarClan. I've never really seen Cinderheart as Cinderpelt, even before her spirit left her body.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on May 18, 2021 15:23:08 GMT -5
I like Cinderheart as well. She had the interesting concept of being a reincarnation of Cinderpelt, even if not much was done with the plot.
The "destiny drama" with Lionblaze wasn't annoying. It was understandable. I would freak out too if my lover was said to be this great person of destiny, foretold to be the savior of the Clans' very existence, and would feel inferior and inconvenient like I was getting in the way or am too lowly to be with him.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 16:28:22 GMT -5
I can't stand her. Uh well maybe that's a bit harsh... ._." I don't like her lol Her reincarnation/possession arc had to be one of the worst written and most confusing plot points in the entire series, no exaggeration. I still don't understand it, like what were the Erins even trying to do? Why Cinderpelt and not someone like Snowkit, Hollykit, Larchkit, Gorsepaw or Badgerfang who barely got to live? Not only did she have the mannerisms of Cinderpelt, but Cinderpelt's spirit straight up separated from Cinderheart and went to StarClan. So was Cinderpelt just controlling Cinderheart like a mech for years? If so, does that mean Cinderpelt's ghost had the hots for Lionblaze and not Cinderheart herself? Did she even have free will or a mind/personality of her own up until the separation? Help?? They wrote it really badly. Her subplot of humming and hawing in the medicine den was messy and pretty much pointless, could've used those pages for something of importance. Her romance with Lionblaze was painful. Somehow it managed to be super rushed while also dragging on and on, and it did absolutely nothing for either of their characters. It's not even like she's a likeable or interesting character outside of all this, she's as bland as soggy white bread sprinkled with cardboard flakes.
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Post by Lionstrike on May 18, 2021 17:13:55 GMT -5
I don't really have an opinion. What a waste of space I am! She is okay, but I did not really like the whole reincarnation thing.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 18, 2021 20:47:12 GMT -5
Wild how she had better chemistry with Hollyleaf than she did Lionblaze...
That aside...she's eh...for me. 4/10, 5 at most.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 18, 2021 21:41:56 GMT -5
i dislike her just like i dislike lionblaze. cinderheart should never have existed. vicky should never have ruined cinderpelt by bringing cinderheart into this and ruining cinderpelt's legacy by giving cinderheart that useless drama of "im cinderpelt but i wanna be a warrior with my love lionblaze, waaaah!"
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Post by cygna on May 19, 2021 19:45:50 GMT -5
I will give her this she are Lionblaze are healthy. Which is super rare for warriors.
I just didn’t care about her.
Her plot was like super wired with her aunt being stuck in her body. It was unnecessary too, Cinderpelt may have not gotten her initial dream but she lived a very fulfilling life. Based on that logic Swiftpaw and so many others should have been reincarnated as well and unlike Cinderpelt did not live to achieve all that Cinderpelt did.
Also like I’ve said before she and Lionblaze are ruining the gene diversity of Thunderclan as well as overpopulating it with useless characters who hardly contribute.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 20, 2021 15:06:50 GMT -5
The sad part about Cinderheart seems to be that she is only a part of the story because the authors/editors wanted to give Cinderpelt a second chance/life in which she could become a warrior and have kits, which was her dream, after all. This whole reincarnation business could have been entirely avoided if both she cats had gotten different storylines.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 20, 2021 16:59:07 GMT -5
I hate the reincarnation plot, and also dislike the annoying LionCinder drama, but otherwise Cinderheart is okay. I’m neutral on her.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 20, 2021 17:09:49 GMT -5
I feel like the reincarnation plot could have been written better tbh. There's a lot I don't like about that plot, namely that LionCinder was dragged into it. It just caused so much unnecessary drama and angst. And I can't find myself liking Cinderheart very much because again, reincarnation drama and LionCinder. Even worse, they're polluting the Clans with WAY TOO MUCH FIREKIN
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on May 20, 2021 17:55:18 GMT -5
I like Cinderheart, I just wish her story was handled better. Also, to everyone calling it reincarnation, it's very clearly not. If that had been the case, Cinderpelt wouldn't have left for StarClan at all—in fact, she wouldn't have been a separate entity from Cinderheart at all. What she had done was possession, though it's obvious the initial plan had been for Cinderpelt to be reborn. Either way, it was unnecessary and stupid.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 20, 2021 18:05:49 GMT -5
I like Cinderheart, I just wish her story was handled better. Also, to everyone calling it reincarnation, it's very clearly not. If that had been the case, Cinderpelt wouldn't have left for StarClan at all—in fact, she wouldn't have been a separate entity from Cinderheart at all. What she had done was possession, though it's obvious the initial plan had been for Cinderpelt to be reborn. Either way, it was unnecessary and stupid. That’s exactly one of the reasons why I hate the “reincarnation” plot. It seemed like it was intended to be reincarnation at first but then wasn’t.
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