Post by Moonblazer on May 18, 2021 16:38:29 GMT -5
I mean I hate both of them both, so. No need to worry, Sleekwhisker is hot garbage. But itโs never argued with when we say Sleekwhisker is an awful cat. Someone could dislike Needletail and suddenly thereโs people jumping down your throat for disliking her and not seeing her as some complex cat who deserves sympathy, at least in my experience. I donโt have to compare Needletail and Sleekwhisker to vehemently hate them both. I just donโt want Sunbeamโs individuality to be stained by them bringing up Needletail when sheโs dead and gone and should stay dead and gone. At least for me personally, I really really really do not want anything to revolve around Needletail anymore.
I do also want to say that people can like or dislike a character for any reasons they like, and that it shouldnโt be that baffling if people do really hate Needletail for what she did on her own merit, without it having to be compared to anyone else. I hate Needletail for what she did and how she acted. Has nothing to do with my feelings for any other cat.
When it comes to their characters as well, Needletail at least had long standing effects in her actions that were good. She may still have had beef with Rowan, but she still felt guilt and needed Tree's help to fix ShadowClan. And even before dying, she still snuck herbs to other clans to help them and was willing to give her life for another cat, ensuring they had a future in the end. Violet and Needle had a complex relationship under horrible conditions, but Violet now has a good family and is happy where she is now because of Needletail's sacrifice. Even though she does name Needleclaw after Needletail, like others have pointed out, she hasn't even told her children about her, because that relationship is a more personal thing to her character. Needleclaw doesn't revolve around Needletail, just like how Sparkpelt, despite being a clone of Firestar, doesn't revolve around Firestar either. But that doesn't mean that their characters don't have some sort of association with those other characters though.
And when it comes to Sunbeam, I doubt it would be her going out of her own way to draw association between her and Needletail. As I said, she wasn't even around Needletail, never met her, and all she'll know of her is what other cats say about her. However, other cats that do know her WILL associate Needletail with her, and that family, but that's not Sunbeam's fault. If ShadowClan doesn't want to forgive Needletail, and they still haven't, then that's really their decision, but it will become a problem when they push that association onto Sunbeam who's just...existing. If anything I feel like it'll be inevitable that some cat will bring up Needletail when it comes to Sunbeam, they are kin after all, but it also won't be the fault of Sunbeam if it does revolve around her character. It would be the cats around her that cause that.
I mean I personally always see her being portrayed in a heroic light in alot of fandom spaces with all her gross moments with Violet being completely glossed over. Is she as bad as Sleekwhisker? Of course not. Can people still loathe her for her own actions? Yup. Iโm just saying, Iโll have 0 interest if Needletail is brought up for drama for Shadowclan and Sunbeam, thatโs just how itโs going to be for me personally. Doesnโt matter if itโs her fault or not, I just donโt want anything to do with it. Needletailโs better actions donโt ever or will ever change my disgust for her, that wonโt change either. I do hate how annoying fandom gets when they glorify her and Sleekwhisker though, I do agree on that. The glorification of Sleekwhisker is gross.