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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on May 2, 2021 6:03:27 GMT -5
What do you think? I like-love this pairing. Breezepelt and Heathertail quickly grow fond of each other during WindClan’s situation with the stoats, and Heathertail is able to see that he does have a friendly, soft and loyal side. They become mates and have many kits, and Breezepelt repeatedly shows that he's proud to be a father.
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Post by Moonblazer on May 2, 2021 6:43:33 GMT -5
I like it alot. I think that she does bring out the best in him, and that they do really genuinely love eachother. It’s clear how smitten Breezepelt is around her as well, and I like that Heathertail never gave up on him too.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on May 2, 2021 7:00:15 GMT -5
I love that pairing. Especially in Crowfeather's Trial.
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Post by Rainsplash on May 2, 2021 7:37:21 GMT -5
I voted like, then neutral. I'm just still salty on Breezepelt. If Breezepelt told everything , I'd probably love it. I like it.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 2, 2021 7:45:06 GMT -5
While Heathertail did play an important role in helping Breezepelt mellow out, I'm still a bit sad that Lionblaze and Heathertail never became real mates instead. Reading OotS, my teen self fully expected for them to reconnect and rekindle their close relationship but that obviously never happened. At least I can appreciate that they are all happy in canon though.
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Post by Aqua on May 2, 2021 9:51:02 GMT -5
Admitting with a grudge, I actually like Heather x Breeze a lot. It's a pretty healthy couple with both cats accepting each other for who they are. Heathertail can calm Breezepelt down and he seems to be really happy around her. I've always liked their friendship together in Po3, so it was nice to see something going right (I really don't like Crowfeather's Trial) in CT that pleased me. Heather x Breeze is one of the few couples I actually like.
Before someone says, "I'm surprised you like them even though you hate Breezepelt's guts", you can like something about the character even if you hate them. I might despise Breezepelt and wish he was exiled instead, cause he sure as hell deserves it, and Heathertail just pisses me off with her annoying grudges herself, but they're good for each other, and I can definitely see where the Erins were coming from with both of them. She was one of the few cats in WindClan who understood Breezepelt and gave him the affected he needed for his life.
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Post by finland on May 2, 2021 9:55:11 GMT -5
Breezepelt doesn't deserve happiness
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Post by Aqua on May 2, 2021 9:59:24 GMT -5
Breezepelt doesn't deserve happiness He really doesn't. Should've been exiled at best. A bad past doesn't excuse his actions, whether Crowfeather was at fault for it or not, I'm annoyed that he was rewarded with a family and kits in the end, instead of exiled. He attacked a WindClan Clanmates (or at least chased after them), wanted a pregnant queen dead, attempted to murder (even if he didn't actually do it, attempting to murder someone is just as bad, no excuse!) Jayfeather and insulted StarClan, laughed at Hollyleaf's dead body, and nearly killed Lionblaze. Seriously, there's a reason why people say his redemption is forced and that he doesn't deserve happiness! Breezepelt tried to hurt a lot of cats who literally had nothing to do with his problems. I'm surprised he didn't go after Crowfeather after all of this. Not everyone needs to be redeemed, and I hope to God he never gets to be deputy to "prove his loyalty to WindClan" like Harestar. And quite frankly, I really don't care of Breezepelt "learned his lesson". It still happened, and he can't erase what he's done. I'm glad some cats still call him out for his crap, he deserves every reminder of it!
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Post by fishbreeze on May 2, 2021 10:49:12 GMT -5
I think they're cute together, but at the same time, I kind of dislike it, because Heathertail and Lionblaze used to be close, and it just seems a bit annoying, especially since it's never brought up, so what was even the point? On the flipside, I can't really think of anyone else Breezepelt would be good with.
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Post by Rainfire on May 2, 2021 10:53:19 GMT -5
Mixed feelings for Breezepelt aside, I like HeatherBreeze and think it's cute. CT really showed how sweet they are together. Plus, the way their first pair of daughters mentored their second pair? I always thought that was super adorable. Makes me like to imagine that their whole family is very close.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 2, 2021 12:46:58 GMT -5
Honestly...yes. I like this pairing. I also think that the two bring out the best in one another, it made me happy to see how much Breezepelt has matured in Daisy's novella and seeing him on a walk with his daughters was a treat. As for his past, imo, I think he still deserved a second chance. Was his behavior despicable? Yes. But I feel like people always gloss over the fact that he was neglected, manipulated, and encouraged to do horrible things the majority of his early warrior life. His father certainly didn't help with the situation, but a lot of the trainees went through something similar. But should they have been condemned? No. The scene where Breezepelt is literally getting manipulated by Tigerstar, Hawkfrost, and Darkstripe, gets ignored so many times. Even when he's attacking Jayfeather, who's with him pushing him to do it? Brokenstar himself. On top of that, even after the final battle, not everyone so eagerly forgave him, some even wanted him dead, including his own father. And whereas Lionblaze forgave him, Jayfeather didn't. Breezepelt has a lot of baggage, and it's honestly annoying to see people disregard emotional trauma and abuse and how characters act on it by labeling them as "Edgy and emo". The way mental issues is glossed over in this series, especially with villain/morally gray characters, annoys me. Does that mean two wrongs make a right? No. But to right a wrong, you don't just kills someone, condemn them, or chase them out. Sit down with them, try to talk to them, understand, and work with them...this is why therapy is a thing. But when it comes to the clans the best you'll probably get from it is your own kin or mate. Which is why Nightcloud and Heathertail were such key roles in Breezepelt's turn around as a character. Breezepelt deserved a second chance as his OWN character, not as his father's unwanted son.
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Post by Brindlefern on May 2, 2021 12:54:40 GMT -5
They're cute as all hell! They bring out the best in one another and I absolutely adore how smitten they are with eachother (Especially Breezepelt, his awkwardness about it when his father poked about it was aww inducing and lol relatable) She was one of the few support systems he had in a clan that hated him and wanted him dead, I think he deserves the happiness she gives him and shouldn't just be allowed to wallow in the clan's extreme negativity towards him imo.
Also repeating what someone said earlier, the fact that his first litter mentored his second is extremely cute and I too like to envision that the family is very very close knit (As a sorta contrast to how the initial CrowNight family was, not to say Crow and Night aren't part of the close-knittedness ofc!). It's not much but big sibs mentoring their younger sibs I would like to happen more often just because it's cute.
So yeah, they're still my Modern Windclan OTP.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 2, 2021 19:06:15 GMT -5
Love it. HeatherBreeze brings out the best in each other which is what a healthy couple really needs. I don't like Breezepelt but I'm glad he's with someone who genuinely loves him.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 2, 2021 19:11:23 GMT -5
This is one of the few ships in this series that I love at this point. I don’t care for Breezepelt much, but Heathertail and him are a healthy couple. She gave him much-needed support in CT when most of his Clan was against him, and it’s clear that both of them do really care about each other. Breezepelt has gotten a lot better now that he has a family with Heathertail.
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Post by scarletflames on May 3, 2021 0:26:19 GMT -5
Honestly...yes. I like this pairing. I also think that the two bring out the best in one another, it made me happy to see how much Breezepelt has matured in Daisy's novella and seeing him on a walk with his daughters was a treat. As for his past, imo, I think he still deserved a second chance. Was his behavior despicable? Yes. But I feel like people always gloss over the fact that he was neglected, manipulated, and encouraged to do horrible things the majority of his early warrior life. His father certainly didn't help with the situation, but a lot of the trainees went through something similar. But should they have been condemned? No. The scene where Breezepelt is literally getting manipulated by Tigerstar, Hawkfrost, and Darkstripe, gets ignored so many times. Even when he's attacking Jayfeather, who's with him pushing him to do it? Brokenstar himself. On top of that, even after the final battle, not everyone so eagerly forgave him, some even wanted him dead, including his own father. And whereas Lionblaze forgave him, Jayfeather didn't. Breezepelt has a lot of baggage, and it's honestly annoying to see people disregard emotional trauma and abuse and how characters act on it by labeling them as "Edgy and emo". The way mental issues is glossed over in this series, especially with villain/morally gray characters, annoys me. Does that mean two wrongs make a right? No. But to right a wrong, you don't just kills someone, condemn them, or chase them out. Sit down with them, try to talk to them, understand, and work with them...this is why therapy is a thing. But when it comes to the clans the best you'll probably get from it is your own kin or mate. Which is why Nightcloud and Heathertail were such key roles in Breezepelt's turn around as a character. Breezepelt deserved a second chance as his OWN character, not as his father's unwanted son. I really appreciate this post. My two cents on Breezepelt: I don't like or condone Breezepelt's past actions, but I agree that he was clearly being manipulated by the Dark Forest, which brought out the worst in him... and the whole reason the Dark Forest was able to manipulate him was because his own father put him through severe emotional neglect and in some parts of Outcast, I feel Crowfeather even engaged in emotional abuse towards Breezepaw (Crow was in denial of how his parenting was traumatizing Breezepelt and pushing Breeze to find a father figure in Brokenstar, and Crow felt remorse in CT when he realized his errors in parenting; but it was still not ok to treat his own child the way he did to Breezepaw). Breezepelt's past actions were wrong and harmful, but I agree much of the fandom ignores the fact that Breeze went through emotional abuse and extremely severe emotional neglect, and later subtle abuse via the Dark Forest cats manipulating him for their own gain- Breezepelt wasn't born bad or evil, he was made. Sadly, while some people can go through abuse and neglect and turn out like Crookedstar, some people can go through abuse and neglect and turn out closer to Rainflower or Brokenstar, or somewhere in the middle like Breezepelt or Blossomfall. I don't like or condone Breezepelt or Blossomfall's past actions, but I could have turned out like them if I didn't have people outside of my abusive family who supported me and helped me be the person I am today; which is why I feel so strongly on the topic of Blossom and Breeze. Many people have no idea the trauma childhood abuse, including emotional abuse and emotional neglect, can cause, especially if they've never experienced it. It shapes how you see the world, yourself, can even change a person's brain and development, and in some cases like mine can contribute to or outright cause PTSD. If somebody goes through that much trauma and suffering while they're still developing (such as childhood), especially at the hands of their family who's supposed to be a source of safety and unconditional love; they might not have the resources to immediately overcome the pain it causes them or narcissistic fleas they might have, especially if they're immature due to neglect like Breeze and Blossom. Back to the thread's question, I like HeatherxBreeze. They bring out the best in each other, and I think they're a good match. Part of me still has nostalgia for HeatherxLion since Dark River was my first Warriors book, but now that I'm older I'm glad they've both moved on. Breeze is fiercely loyal and protective of Heathertail, and Heathertail is able to give him the empathy and mirroring he always needed. I also love that Heathertail can stand up for him, or even to him and call Breeze out if she disagrees with him. I don't think their relationship is abusive, and from what I've read pre-AVOS, they seem to be a healthy couple with a healthy dynamic. (Sorry if I overshared in this post, I can get pretty passionate over Warriors).
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