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Post by foxstride on Apr 30, 2021 15:51:10 GMT -5
What do you think we'll get first in future books?
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on Apr 30, 2021 16:05:44 GMT -5
Redscar was kind of a villainous medicine cat, there already are some implied poly realtionships: FlossSmokyDaisy, TurtleGraySlate and three cats from Yellowfang's Secret whose names escaped my memory, Strikestone and Lightleap have filled out the Tigerstar clone space in modern times and actually developed background characters are just another fever dream of mine which will not become reality anytime soon.
So another tribe trip is probably going to happen soon, oh joy.
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 30, 2021 16:18:54 GMT -5
I voted for which one I really want the most out of these, not the one I think will happen because Iโm not really sure. I want a canon poly relationship.
I already headcanon BrindleWhiteWillow as poly and even wrote a fanfiction regarding it years ago, but I would like a canon one! Iโd also LOVE more canon LGBTQ+ cats but with restrictions in other countries, I donโt think thatโll happen.
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Post by foxstride on Apr 30, 2021 16:39:15 GMT -5
Redscar was kind of a villainous medicine cat, there already are some implied poly realtionships: FlossSmokyDaisy, TurtleGraySlate and three cats from Yellowfang's Secret whose names escaped my memory, Strikestone and Lightleap have filled out the Tigerstar clone space in modern times and actually developed background characters are just another fever dream of mine which will not become reality anytime soon. So another tribe trip is probably going to happen soon, oh joy. Toadskip, Poolcloud, and Nettlespot are def not a healthy polyamorous ship tho that is the closest yeah. I want a health polyamorous ship that actually works healthily And is addressed, you know? I really don't want to go back to the Tribe, ever, buuut you're probably right that it's coming up, it's been too long since Tawnypelt's visit already.
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Post by foxstride on Apr 30, 2021 16:41:58 GMT -5
I voted for which one I really want the most out of these, not the one I think will happen because Iโm not really sure. I want a canon poly relationship. I already headcanon BrindleWhiteWillow as poly and even wrote a fanfiction regarding it years ago, but I would like a canon one! Iโd also LOVE more canon LGBTQ+ cats but with restrictions in other countries, I donโt think thatโll happen. That's awesome! I actually headcanon BrindleRedLionFrost! I feel you. Fanfiction is where we'll get the most of LGBTQ+ representation, and I think there are so many out there being created that we at least have that, but the editors and publishers should really look beyond profits sometime. That's... seemingly the root of maybe a quarter the problems I have with the saga haha
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on Apr 30, 2021 16:57:11 GMT -5
Redscar was kind of a villainous medicine cat, there already are some implied poly realtionships: FlossSmokyDaisy, TurtleGraySlate and three cats from Yellowfang's Secret whose names escaped my memory, Strikestone and Lightleap have filled out the Tigerstar clone space in modern times and actually developed background characters are just another fever dream of mine which will not become reality anytime soon. So another tribe trip is probably going to happen soon, oh joy. Toadskip, Poolcloud, and Nettlespot are def not a healthy polyamorous ship tho that is the closest yeah. I want a health polyamorous ship that actually works healthily And is addressed, you know? I really don't want to go back to the Tribe, ever, buuut you're probably right that it's coming up, it's been too long since Tawnypelt's visit already. PoolToadNettle could also have been another cheating scandal such as the parentage of Blackstar in his recent Novella revealed his father to be Blizzardwing, who was betraying his mate Featherstorm by also secretly having had a brief fling with Hollyflower. Some fans already speculate that Toadskip was just disloyal instead of simply having two mates. A healthy poly relationship was indeed mentioned or somewhat alluded however, not in the main DotC arc or even Moth Flight's Vision, I believe. But at least Kate Cary thinks that Gray Wing can live peacefully with Slate and Turtle Tail in StarClan without having to feel any jealousy, so that's good.
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Post by แนขanษypawโข on Apr 30, 2021 17:08:05 GMT -5
"Colonizing the Tribe" is an... interesting way to put those visits. I personally think it was more dreadfully boring filler than actual attempts at colonizing, but that's just my opinion. I think we'll get some actually developed background characters because TBC has been a good arc for them. I think that there's a high chance that the Erins will continue with developing background characters further into the next arcs. *crosses fingers*
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 30, 2021 17:12:34 GMT -5
I voted for which one I really want the most out of these, not the one I think will happen because Iโm not really sure. I want a canon poly relationship. I already headcanon BrindleWhiteWillow as poly and even wrote a fanfiction regarding it years ago, but I would like a canon one! Iโd also LOVE more canon LGBTQ+ cats but with restrictions in other countries, I donโt think thatโll happen. That's awesome! I actually headcanon BrindleRedLionFrost! I feel you. Fanfiction is where we'll get the most of LGBTQ+ representation, and I think there are so many out there being created that we at least have that, but the editors and publishers should really look beyond profits sometime. That's... seemingly the root of maybe a quarter the problems I have with the saga hahaย Woah, thatโs an interesting poly idea if we forget the fact that Brindle and Frost are sisters. Yeah, I agree. A lot of characters had the opportunity to be LGBTQ+ yet the publishers didnโt want to take the risk. Itโs a shame.
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Post by Snowfire on Apr 30, 2021 18:25:36 GMT -5
I would love an evil medicine cat, more background character development, and a poly relationship. I also want another LGBTQ+ relationship with maybe one of the protagonists too.
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Post by wolfcry32 on Apr 30, 2021 18:44:44 GMT -5
I voted for which one I really want the most out of these, not the one I think will happen because Iโm not really sure. I want a canon poly relationship. I already headcanon BrindleWhiteWillow as poly and even wrote a fanfiction regarding it years ago, but I would like a canon one! Iโd also LOVE more canon LGBTQ+ cats but with restrictions in other countries, I donโt think thatโll happen. I headcanon SwiftBrightCloud as poly so much I decided to rewrite everything to make it happen.
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 30, 2021 18:53:33 GMT -5
I voted for which one I really want the most out of these, not the one I think will happen because Iโm not really sure. I want a canon poly relationship. I already headcanon BrindleWhiteWillow as poly and even wrote a fanfiction regarding it years ago, but I would like a canon one! Iโd also LOVE more canon LGBTQ+ cats but with restrictions in other countries, I donโt think thatโll happen. I headcanon SwiftBrightCloud as poly so much I decided to rewrite everything to make it happen. Woah, thatโs a great AU idea!! I wouldโve loved that.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 30, 2021 19:11:09 GMT -5
I mean, we have SilverGrayMillie and Gray Wing and his mates
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Post by Rainsplash on Apr 30, 2021 20:04:31 GMT -5
No way we'll get developed background characters now. I don't remember Spotfur's siblings. Are they Flywhisker and Snaptooth or... what I think we'll get another Tigerstar clone. We have Bramblestar and Tigerstar. I hate them, but I'm pretty sure we will.
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Post by Fireleap on Apr 30, 2021 20:16:44 GMT -5
We'll get the seventh TigerClone first.
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Post by foxstride on May 1, 2021 15:05:44 GMT -5
Toadskip, Poolcloud, and Nettlespot are def not a healthy polyamorous ship tho that is the closest yeah. I want a health polyamorous ship that actually works healthily And is addressed, you know? I really don't want to go back to the Tribe, ever, buuut you're probably right that it's coming up, it's been too long since Tawnypelt's visit already. PoolToadNettle could also have been another cheating scandal such as the parentage of Blackstar in his recent Novella revealed his father to be Blizzardwing, who was betraying his mate Featherstorm by also secretly having had a brief fling with Hollyflower. Some fans already speculate that Toadskip was just disloyal instead of simply having two mates. A healthy poly relationship was indeed mentioned or somewhat alluded however, not in the main DotC arc or even Moth Flight's Vision, I believe. But at least Kate Cary thinks that Gray Wing can live peacefully with Slate and Turtle Tail in StarClan without having to feel any jealousy, so that's good. That's true, it could have been - so yeah, definitely no polyamorous representation. I personally don't see the author's comments as canon, given just how... all over the place they are. So while I love the idea of that, the polyamorous representation I want is actually shown in the books! So we're so in need of it. I really hope we get it. I mean, Kate also says that Greystripe will choose Silverstream over Millie in StarClan which would eliminate SilverGreyMillie fans :/
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Post by foxstride on May 1, 2021 15:09:03 GMT -5
That's awesome! I actually headcanon BrindleRedLionFrost! I feel you. Fanfiction is where we'll get the most of LGBTQ+ representation, and I think there are so many out there being created that we at least have that, but the editors and publishers should really look beyond profits sometime. That's... seemingly the root of maybe a quarter the problems I have with the saga haha Woah, thatโs an interesting poly idea if we forget the fact that Brindle and Frost are sisters. Yeah, I agree. A lot of characters had the opportunity to be LGBTQ+ yet the publishers didnโt want to take the risk. Itโs a shame. Polyamorous relationships don't always have all of them having a relationship with each other! In this case, Brindle and Red are primary partners, Lion is the biological father of Brindle's kits, and Frost is part of the polycule with consent and support, not romance or anything. It really is a shame. I hope it'll improve in the future!
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Post by foxstride on May 1, 2021 15:12:36 GMT -5
"Colonizing the Tribe" is an... interesting way to put those visits. I personally think it was more dreadfully boring filler than actual attempts at colonizing, but that's just my opinion. I think we'll get some actually developed background characters because TBC has been a good arc for them. I think that there's a high chance that the Erins will continue with developing background characters further into the next arcs. *crosses fingers* Sadly, many of the plots around the Tribe are really problematic and racist. The colonisation plays into it with the Clan cats having them enforce borders to deal with the colony of cats (rogues) on the mountain. There's also the White Saviour and other problematic tropes in The New Prophecy which is just... squick. I definitely agree most of it is boring filler but there are a Lot of issues with how the Tribe is written. I really hope for more developed background characters! Especially if we can get past some of the cats that have been alive way too long.
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on May 1, 2021 15:20:04 GMT -5
PoolToadNettle could also have been another cheating scandal such as the parentage of Blackstar in his recent Novella revealed his father to be Blizzardwing, who was betraying his mate Featherstorm by also secretly having had a brief fling with Hollyflower. Some fans already speculate that Toadskip was just disloyal instead of simply having two mates. A healthy poly relationship was indeed mentioned or somewhat alluded however, not in the main DotC arc or even Moth Flight's Vision, I believe. But at least Kate Cary thinks that Gray Wing can live peacefully with Slate and Turtle Tail in StarClan without having to feel any jealousy, so that's good. That's true, it could have been - so yeah, definitely no polyamorous representation. I personally don't see the author's comments as canon, given just how... all over the place they are. So while I love the idea of that, the polyamorous representation I want is actually shown in the books! So we're so in need of it. I really hope we get it. I mean, Kate also says that Greystripe will choose Silverstream over Millie in StarClan which would eliminate SilverGreyMillie fans :/ Perhaps we will indeed get a poly relationship in the future where all cats involved are actually alive and happy with each other although I doubt it would be someone from the main cast and instead just a background relationship. I've also had plenty of time to work on an AU in which BrackenSorrelBrambleLeaf happens so creating your own healthy poly representation in this series is currently the only way to really go about it.
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Post by foxstride on May 1, 2021 15:24:53 GMT -5
That's true, it could have been - so yeah, definitely no polyamorous representation. I personally don't see the author's comments as canon, given just how... all over the place they are. So while I love the idea of that, the polyamorous representation I want is actually shown in the books! So we're so in need of it. I really hope we get it. I mean, Kate also says that Greystripe will choose Silverstream over Millie in StarClan which would eliminate SilverGreyMillie fans :/ Perhaps we will indeed get a poly relationship in the future where all cats involved are actually alive and happy with each other although I doubt it would be someone from the main cast and instead just a background relationship. I've also had plenty of time to work on an AU in which BrackenSorrelBrambleLeaf happens so creating your own healthy poly representation in this series is currently the only way to really go about it. Fingers crossed! I think the same sadly. Yesss nice! That sounds like a great AU already Best of luck with it! I'm working on a rewrite which has polyamorous relationships throughout since it's semi-realistic as well which... cats don't really pick A mate so much as whoever, but the rewrite has a lot more relationship variety and LGBTQIA+ representation since that's important to me and my partner.
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Post by แนขanษypawโข on May 1, 2021 15:33:11 GMT -5
"Colonizing the Tribe" is an... interesting way to put those visits. I personally think it was more dreadfully boring filler than actual attempts at colonizing, but that's just my opinion. I think we'll get some actually developed background characters because TBC has been a good arc for them. I think that there's a high chance that the Erins will continue with developing background characters further into the next arcs. *crosses fingers* Sadly, many of the plots around the Tribe are really problematic and racist. The colonisation plays into it with the Clan cats having them enforce borders to deal with the colony of cats (rogues) on the mountain. There's also the White Saviour and other problematic tropes in The New Prophecy which is just... squick. I definitely agree most of it is boring filler but there are a Lot of issues with how the Tribe is written. I really hope for more developed background characters! Especially if we can get past some of the cats that have been alive way too long. The thing is, the Tribe specifically asked the Clans for help to deal with the rogues. I'm not sure how else the Clans were going to be able to help. Plus they didn't complete the other steps of colonizing- that is, claiming the territory as yours and sucking all the resources out of there at the expense of the natives.
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on May 1, 2021 15:33:40 GMT -5
Perhaps we will indeed get a poly relationship in the future where all cats involved are actually alive and happy with each other although I doubt it would be someone from the main cast and instead just a background relationship. I've also had plenty of time to work on an AU in which BrackenSorrelBrambleLeaf happens so creating your own healthy poly representation in this series is currently the only way to really go about it. Fingers crossed! I think the same sadly. Yesss nice! That sounds like a great AU already Best of luck with it! I'm working on a rewrite which has polyamorous relationships throughout since it's semi-realistic as well which... cats don't really pick A mate so much as whoever, but the rewrite has a lot more relationship variety and LGBTQIA+ representation since that's important to me and my partner. Let's continue hoping for the best. Thank you, the AU is basically writing itself as I've often felt like Brackenfur had some great chemistry with Leafpool, especially in her novella and Leafpool always got along great with Sorreltail, we all know Brackenfur adored her as well so the only thing to figure out was how the two toms would bond together and bringing Leafpool together with Brambleclaw as I wanted for them all to be perfectly comfortable and in love with each other. I'm wishing you good luck with your rewrite as well, it sounds great already!
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Post by *Ottersplash* on May 1, 2021 18:40:13 GMT -5
PoolToadNettle could also have been another cheating scandal such as the parentage of Blackstar in his recent Novella revealed his father to be Blizzardwing, who was betraying his mate Featherstorm by also secretly having had a brief fling with Hollyflower. Some fans already speculate that Toadskip was just disloyal instead of simply having two mates. A healthy poly relationship was indeed mentioned or somewhat alluded however, not in the main DotC arc or even Moth Flight's Vision, I believe. But at least Kate Cary thinks that Gray Wing can live peacefully with Slate and Turtle Tail in StarClan without having to feel any jealousy, so that's good. That's true, it could have been - so yeah, definitely no polyamorous representation. I personally don't see the author's comments as canon, given just how... all over the place they are. So while I love the idea of that, the polyamorous representation I want is actually shown in the books! So we're so in need of it. I really hope we get it. I mean, Kate also says that Greystripe will choose Silverstream over Millie in StarClan which would eliminate SilverGreyMillie fans :/ Greystripe's SE made it pretty clear he's not going to have to choose. They made a point of showing how much he loves both Silver and Millie. Also, Gray Wing in canon did not have to choose between Turtle Tail and Slate
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