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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 26, 2021 13:17:02 GMT -5
she would just be completely screwed while performing any of her warrior duties.
I've seen a lot of fanart that depicts her as very tiny and even with the distinct characteristics of this unfortunate cat breed which was created to simply look cute with no regards to any health issues like back pain or even being unable to properly groom themselves. While there is nothing wrong with her as a small cat I actually thought this only referred to her younger self as an apprentice/early warrior and not her later appearances in canon. I'm more inclined to embrace this, in my opinion, headcanon in an AU where Squirrelflight is literally the reincarnation of her (half)uncle Scourge.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Apr 26, 2021 13:28:51 GMT -5
not a fan of dovewing as a scottish fold as well
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 26, 2021 13:30:32 GMT -5
i've never understood why people are so insistant on making her small for absolutely no reason...i'll never like it either.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 26, 2021 13:56:57 GMT -5
I like making her short-legged, i love the "small but fierce" trope, but munchkin is weird, seeing how many health issues they have.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Apr 26, 2021 14:08:59 GMT -5
i've never understood why people are so insistant on making her small for absolutely no reason...i'll never like it either. oh thank god im not alone
I really dislike small squirrelflight and it saddens me that like, its all we really see
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Post by Ghost/Aster on Apr 26, 2021 14:36:20 GMT -5
For me at least, when I'm designing cats, I don't care much about breeds. I still imagine Squirrelflight as small.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 26, 2021 16:23:43 GMT -5
i've never understood why people are so insistant on making her small for absolutely no reason...i'll never like it either. oh thank god im not alone
I really dislike small squirrelflight and it saddens me that like, its all we really see
if she's not described as small all the time once an adult, then she's not small...following canon descriptions with context (like when the description takes place, such as squirrel being called small when she's an apprentice or being compared to canonically large cats like bramble or hawk, etc.) isn't hard.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 26, 2021 17:08:22 GMT -5
Why can't we have a strong buff Squirrelflight who takes after her father every way in physique? Smh.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 26, 2021 17:09:50 GMT -5
Why can't we have a strong buff Squirrelflight who takes after her father every way in physique? Smh. yeah i always thought squirrelflight was a darker clone of her dad with one white paw.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Apr 26, 2021 17:24:03 GMT -5
Squirrelflight civil war
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 26, 2021 19:28:42 GMT -5
We know that though? Why does this always lead to people saying the HEADCANON of Squirrelflight being a munchkin and the fun imagining of her doing everything while being a short legged little gremlin is wrong?
It's a headcanon, it's for fun, you don't have to follow it.
I'm well aware of the problems munchkins (And hell, just about every other cat mutation that has problems) come with but this is battlecats who does not give a literal damn about that. Nobody that draws Squirrelflight this way are disregarding the breed's problems as a whole, jfc we do it just because it's CUTE and that's it. We don't say "Let's make her a munchkin because I know Munchkins to be adorable and ignore everything else", it's just fitting for the short legs thing and hell, I chose Munchkin for the HC because I ran with the descriptor.
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Post by MadameDelune on Apr 26, 2021 21:38:28 GMT -5
I can’t get behind the people that support munchkin squirrelflight it’s very strange to me. with certain pieces of fanart I’m starting to think it’s some kind of creepy fetish
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 26, 2021 22:08:13 GMT -5
I can’t get behind the people that support munchkin squirrelflight it’s very strange to me. with certain pieces of fanart I’m starting to think it’s some kind of creepy fetish the gross moonlight x squirrelflight fan art...i've mentioned this exact thing before. people make squirrelflight so small and moonlight so big , that is looks disturbing and gross...very fetish-y :\
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Apr 27, 2021 0:56:47 GMT -5
I’ve always seen Squirrelflight as a normal cat, but I really don’t get what’s wrong with people headcanoning her as small? I like how unique the different fanart and headcanons in this fandom are, and I for one would hate it if everyone drew the characters strictly as they are described canonically.
Warriors is just a mediocre series about cats who have special powers and can talk with their dead ancestors. It’s not realistic in any way. I don’t get why small Squirrelflight is such a problem.
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Post by Woofzie on Apr 27, 2021 1:20:27 GMT -5
why
why are you implying that people who likes munchkin, scottish folds or any other mutations HC supports the breeding of them or have a fetish with it? Honestly let people have their headcanons. I personally love munchkin Littlecloud and Dovewing. People forget that there are cats like Yellowfang and Brightflower in the series, both brachycephalic cats (who have even MORE documented heatlh issues than munchkins, btw) and that doesn't mean that the authors (or, by an extent, whoever reads the books) supports the breeding of brachycephalic cats (or dogs).
Liking a common trope -big character likes small character- -small character is very aggressive or rash- is not the same as having a fetish, oh lord.
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Post by Ghost/Aster on Apr 27, 2021 9:55:29 GMT -5
For me at least, when I'm designing cats, I don't care much about breeds. I still imagine Squirrelflight as small. Still, I don't see her as a little thing. I'd still say I imagine Squirrelflight as small for cat standards. I also like the idea of Firestar being small, even if the text says otherwise. Idk. Let people have fun.
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Post by Emeraldripple on Apr 27, 2021 9:59:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see a point in gatekeeping cat breed headcanons, but I do sometimes wonder if people think through how horribly-suited a munchkin would be to clan life when they just pick that for the aesthetic (which is... a lot to unpack). I think I'd be interested in seeing an OC built around really exploring that premise, though.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Apr 27, 2021 11:48:54 GMT -5
I don’t mind her being smaller than average but I don’t like the munchkin art either tbh. munchkins have a lot of health problems
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 27, 2021 14:34:47 GMT -5
btw, i said specifcally the moonlight x squirrelflight art is "fetish-y" not that all small squirrelflight art is "fetish-y." in shipping art, some people make squirrelflight so small that she looks like a kit and moonlight looks like a giant mom, etc. thats whats gross about "small squirrelflight."
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Post by Ghost/Aster on Apr 27, 2021 14:50:20 GMT -5
btw, i said specifcally the moonlight x squirrelflight art is "fetish-y" not that all small squirrelflight art is "fetish-y." in shipping art, some people make squirrelflight so small that she looks like a kit and moonlight looks like a giant mom, etc. thats whats gross about "small squirrelflight." In that case, it’s weird. Unrelated, but something I’ve been working on with designing characters is making smaller adults look like adults, and tall kids look like kids. Maybe people should keep that in mind
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 27, 2021 14:56:41 GMT -5
btw, i said specifcally the moonlight x squirrelflight art is "fetish-y" not that all small squirrelflight art is "fetish-y." in shipping art, some people make squirrelflight so small that she looks like a kit and moonlight looks like a giant mom, etc. thats whats gross about "small squirrelflight." In that case, it’s weird. Unrelated, but something I’ve been working on with designing characters is making smaller adults look like adults, and tall kids look like kids. Maybe people should keep that in mind yeah i wanted to clear it up bc i dont want everyone think i was being rude to everyone who draws small squirrelflight. im not a good artist myself, so i wouldnt know how to be able to draw cats looking older than others and at different sizes (the way i draw cat faces is pretty generic and simple, so i guess it'd be easier for artists to figure it out who do lots of details).
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 27, 2021 15:04:24 GMT -5
We know that though? Why does this always lead to people saying the HEADCANON of Squirrelflight being a munchkin and the fun imagining of her doing everything while being a short legged little gremlin is wrong? It's a headcanon, it's for fun, you don't have to follow it. I'm well aware of the problems munchkins (And hell, just about every other cat mutation that has problems) come with but this is battlecats who does not give a literal damn about that. Nobody that draws Squirrelflight this way are disregarding the breed's problems as a whole, jfc we do it just because it's CUTE and that's it. We don't say "Let's make her a munchkin because I know Munchkins to be adorable and ignore everything else", it's just fitting for the short legs thing and hell, I chose Munchkin for the HC because I ran with the descriptor. I specifically stated in my comment that depicting Squirrelflight as small is fine for those who view her as such. It's just that I don't and after having this video get randomly recommended to me by Youtube, was once again reminded of why she would have problems fighting and hunting if she truly was a Munchkin or coded as such. I wasn't trying to tell anyone to stop drawing her as they want so I'm sorry that it came across like that.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 27, 2021 15:16:29 GMT -5
why why are you implying that people who likes munchkin, scottish folds or any other mutations HC supports the breeding of them or have a fetish with it? Honestly let people have their headcanons. I personally love munchkin Littlecloud and Dovewing. People forget that there are cats like Yellowfang and Brightflower in the series, both brachycephalic cats (who have even MORE documented heatlh issues than munchkins, btw) and that doesn't mean that the authors (or, by an extent, whoever reads the books) supports the breeding of brachycephalic cats (or dogs). Liking a common trope -big character likes small character- -small character is very aggressive or rash- is not the same as having a fetish, oh lord. Where exactly did I imply in my top comment that people might have a fetish for drawing/depicting Squirrelflight as small? Anyone is allowed to have headcanons and I simply stated that this wasn't one I had. Instead, I was merely pointing out problems Squirrelflight could have if she was an actual Munchkin. This thread was in no way meant to be an attack on fans who have this headcanon, I also just wanted to share my own thoughts on this particular cat breed.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 27, 2021 15:42:35 GMT -5
why why are you implying that people who likes munchkin, scottish folds or any other mutations HC supports the breeding of them or have a fetish with it? Honestly let people have their headcanons. I personally love munchkin Littlecloud and Dovewing. People forget that there are cats like Yellowfang and Brightflower in the series, both brachycephalic cats (who have even MORE documented heatlh issues than munchkins, btw) and that doesn't mean that the authors (or, by an extent, whoever reads the books) supports the breeding of brachycephalic cats (or dogs). Liking a common trope -big character likes small character- -small character is very aggressive or rash- is not the same as having a fetish, oh lord. Where exactly did I imply in my top comment that people might have a fetish for drawing/depicting Squirrelflight as small? Anyone is allowed to have headcanons and I simply stated that this wasn't one I had. Instead, I was merely pointing out problems Squirrelflight could have if she was an actual Munchkin. This thread was in no way meant to be an attack on fans who have this headcanon, I also just wanted to share my own thoughts on this particular cat breed. I'm pretty sure this was in response to the other comments that have been made on this thread.
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Post by Woofzie on Apr 27, 2021 17:30:31 GMT -5
why why are you implying that people who likes munchkin, scottish folds or any other mutations HC supports the breeding of them or have a fetish with it? Honestly let people have their headcanons. I personally love munchkin Littlecloud and Dovewing. People forget that there are cats like Yellowfang and Brightflower in the series, both brachycephalic cats (who have even MORE documented heatlh issues than munchkins, btw) and that doesn't mean that the authors (or, by an extent, whoever reads the books) supports the breeding of brachycephalic cats (or dogs). Liking a common trope -big character likes small character- -small character is very aggressive or rash- is not the same as having a fetish, oh lord. Where exactly did I imply in my top comment that people might have a fetish for drawing/depicting Squirrelflight as small? Anyone is allowed to have headcanons and I simply stated that this wasn't one I had. Instead, I was merely pointing out problems Squirrelflight could have if she was an actual Munchkin. This thread was in no way meant to be an attack on fans who have this headcanon, I also just wanted to share my own thoughts on this particular cat breed. As Cinder already stated, I was replying to several people on this thread, my comment was not directed towards someone specific, I'm sorry if you saw it as a direct reply :c
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Post by Fernflower on Apr 27, 2021 19:36:17 GMT -5
why why are you implying that people who likes munchkin, scottish folds or any other mutations HC supports the breeding of them or have a fetish with it? Honestly let people have their headcanons. I personally love munchkin Littlecloud and Dovewing. People forget that there are cats like Yellowfang and Brightflower in the series, both brachycephalic cats (who have even MORE documented heatlh issues than munchkins, btw) and that doesn't mean that the authors (or, by an extent, whoever reads the books) supports the breeding of brachycephalic cats (or dogs). From my point of view, when I see someone draw her as a munchkin, they usually draw her in a cute and endearing way, which makes the breed seem more appealing and leads more people to have a positive view on it. That's why I feel uncomfortable when it's a generally accepted headcanon. It's not a well-known fact that munchkins are unhealthy so I never know if the artists are aware of this or not, and I'm sure that a lot of people who see the art aren't aware of it either. I do want to enjoy the art (I love most headcanons and I love seeing the creativity in the fandom) but it's hard for me to separate myself from real-life to fiction. I hope that makes sense, I don't want to have a heated argument or anything but I thought I would share my perspective. I'd be willing to hear and learn from what you or anyone else has to say because this is something that is important to me.
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Post by Ghost/Aster on Apr 27, 2021 20:04:47 GMT -5
In that case, it’s weird. Unrelated, but something I’ve been working on with designing characters is making smaller adults look like adults, and tall kids look like kids. Maybe people should keep that in mind yeah i wanted to clear it up bc i dont want everyone think i was being rude to everyone who draws small squirrelflight. im not a good artist myself, so i wouldnt know how to be able to draw cats looking older than others and at different sizes (the way i draw cat faces is pretty generic and simple, so i guess it'd be easier for artists to figure it out who do lots of details). I'm still working on that, but its mostly size of head (eyes too can help for cartoons), and position of the eyes. The lower the eyes and bigger the head, the younger they are.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 28, 2021 9:47:50 GMT -5
Where exactly did I imply in my top comment that people might have a fetish for drawing/depicting Squirrelflight as small? Anyone is allowed to have headcanons and I simply stated that this wasn't one I had. Instead, I was merely pointing out problems Squirrelflight could have if she was an actual Munchkin. This thread was in no way meant to be an attack on fans who have this headcanon, I also just wanted to share my own thoughts on this particular cat breed. As Cinder already stated, I was replying to several people on this thread, my comment was not directed towards someone specific, I'm sorry if you saw it as a direct reply :c I can see that now but the way it was worded with "why are you..." without anyone actually being quoted or tagged just immediately made me think this was adressing me as the one who created the original thread. I really thought what I said was completely wrong for a moment to cause such a reply. Turns out it was a misunderstanding on my part and I apologize for the defensive tone whch I used in my response.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Apr 28, 2021 13:19:55 GMT -5
I also find muchkin squirrelflight sorta demeaning
mostly because of well, you saw the video...
headcanon her as small, i dont agree but hey you do what you want but munchkin?
hng
maybe its because i just love/relate to her too much
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