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Oldest?
Apr 23, 2021 21:19:51 GMT -5
Post by Mau Furlong on Apr 23, 2021 21:19:51 GMT -5
Who was/is the oldest queen to have kits?
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Post by Hollyfall on Apr 23, 2021 21:42:56 GMT -5
The only one who comes to mind is Snowbird. Her littermate Ratscar was mentioned as a young warrior in Tigerclaw's Fury, so Snowbird must be alive at that time. Her last litter was in AVoS, which is about nine years since that book.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 23, 2021 21:45:40 GMT -5
i was gonna say speckletail because she was maybe like 9-10 when she had snowkit...? but i think Hollyfall is right because snowbird is supposedly from the first arc (like her brother ratscar), and she's still alive and had multiple litters, recently as AVoS.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 24, 2021 2:27:54 GMT -5
The only one who comes to mind is Snowbird. Her littermate Ratscar was mentioned as a young warrior in Tigerclaw's Fury, so Snowbird must be alive at that time. Her last litter was in AVoS, which is about nine years since that book. It also dosen't help that her brother, Ratscar, already retired when she was still having 2 more litters. So i'd say she's the oldest Queen.
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Oldest?
Apr 24, 2021 6:07:34 GMT -5
Post by Twilight Sparkle on Apr 24, 2021 6:07:34 GMT -5
Brightflower seemed rather old to have her (second) litter of kits.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Apr 24, 2021 13:38:27 GMT -5
Speckletail was definitely an old queen. I think Brightheart was pretty old by the time she had her second litter. Brightflower was old when she had her second litter (she even told Yellowfang that she (Yellowfang) was getting old before she had the kits) Snowbird is old af Squirrelflight was pretty old to be having her first litter, but she wasn’t old like some of the others
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 24, 2021 13:53:14 GMT -5
Snowbird and Ratscar are apparently littermates and Ratscar was already alive during Into the Wild. So I'm going with Snowbird as she had at least two litters after her brother retired.
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Oldest?
Apr 24, 2021 16:13:43 GMT -5
Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 24, 2021 16:13:43 GMT -5
𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱brightheart was around 7 years old when she had her second litter, and squirrelflight was around 6 years old. not as old as speckletail.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Apr 25, 2021 19:27:51 GMT -5
𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 brightheart was around 7 years old when she had her second litter, and squirrelflight was around 6 years old. not as old as speckletail. True. They're not the oldest but they were definitely old to be having kits - especially Squirrelflight with her first litter. I know they're not the oldest though.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 25, 2021 21:47:54 GMT -5
Snowbird is definitely probably the oldest. I think she's the next Mistystar...but with more kits
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 25, 2021 23:23:12 GMT -5
Snowbird is definitely probably the oldest. I think she's the next Mistystar...but with more kits i headcanon snowbird and ratscar as younger than mistystar and stonefur for some reason. i just really didn't want snowbird to be as ancient as mistystar, so i thought "what if snowbird and ratscar were newly made warriors by the time we see ratscar in tigerclaw's fury?"
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Post by Hollyfall on Apr 25, 2021 23:30:56 GMT -5
Snowbird is definitely probably the oldest. I think she's the next Mistystar...but with more kits i headcanon snowbird and ratscar as younger than mistystar and stonefur for some reason. i just really didn't want snowbird to be as ancient as mistystar, so i thought "what if snowbird and ratscar were newly made warriors by the time we see ratscar in tigerclaw's fury?" This was my headcanon for the longest time too, figuring he was maybe around Brackenfur's age or something close to that, but it turns out Ratscar's a warrior during Into the Wild (he appears as a warrior in Blackfoot's Reckoning when they're trying to kidnap Frostfur's kits), so that went out the window. I guess him being a "young" warrior in that novella could still theoretically work but it looks like him and Snowbird are even older than we thought.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 26, 2021 0:24:25 GMT -5
i headcanon snowbird and ratscar as younger than mistystar and stonefur for some reason. i just really didn't want snowbird to be as ancient as mistystar, so i thought "what if snowbird and ratscar were newly made warriors by the time we see ratscar in tigerclaw's fury?" This was my headcanon for the longest time too, figuring he was maybe around Brackenfur's age or something close to that, but it turns out Ratscar's a warrior during Into the Wild (he appears as a warrior in Blackfoot's Reckoning when they're trying to kidnap Frostfur's kits), so that went out the window. I guess him being a "young" warrior in that novella could still theoretically work but it looks like him and Snowbird are even older than we thought. novellas almost always get timeline and ages wrong so i lowkey wanna ignore blackfoot's reckoning for the sake of headcanon lol
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Cloudy Sky
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Post by Cloudy Sky on Apr 26, 2021 1:10:19 GMT -5
This was my headcanon for the longest time too, figuring he was maybe around Brackenfur's age or something close to that, but it turns out Ratscar's a warrior during Into the Wild (he appears as a warrior in Blackfoot's Reckoning when they're trying to kidnap Frostfur's kits), so that went out the window. I guess him being a "young" warrior in that novella could still theoretically work but it looks like him and Snowbird are even older than we thought. novellas almost always get timeline and ages wrong so i lowkey wanna ignore blackfoot's reckoning for the sake of headcanon lol It's also possible that Ratscar is a new kit-warrior then, which might then make him normal new-warrior age in Tigerclaw's Fury.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 26, 2021 1:12:46 GMT -5
novellas almost always get timeline and ages wrong so i lowkey wanna ignore blackfoot's reckoning for the sake of headcanon lol It's also possible that Ratscar is a new kit-warrior then, which might then make him normal new-warrior age in Tigerclaw's Fury. OH! thats an interesting hc. that would be super interesting
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