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Post by Snowfire on Apr 23, 2021 16:56:28 GMT -5
What are some books, or scenes, that you didn't like or weren't satisfied with that you would change? For me I would change the majority of chapters of Spotfur's Rebellion, change everything about Spottedleaf's Heart, improve Shadowstar's Life and make it at a later timeline, fix the ending for Redtail's Debt, and change the plot for SkyClan's Destiny to make it more hooking.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 23, 2021 17:10:16 GMT -5
I'd rewrite Into the Wild so Spottedleaf just leaves Firestar alone after she dies and only does the "wise mentor who died tragically at a young age" role. Her not being such a creep could make the books WAY better in my opinion, especially when you look at PoT and OOTS.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Apr 23, 2021 17:16:12 GMT -5
im currently doing an au/rewrite of mapleshades vengence
titled ravenwings remorse
chapter 1 is done and awaiting a beta read and once its done and i correct things i will upload it :3
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 23, 2021 18:17:13 GMT -5
ALL OF IT.
i have a ton of outlines of AU's where i re-write everything. most of them stem from rewriting from TNP onward because TNP is where crap goes wrong in my opinion.
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Post by MadameDelune on Apr 23, 2021 18:33:19 GMT -5
Make it so you actually feel the impact of death when reading The Last Hope
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Apr 23, 2021 18:51:25 GMT -5
If I could rewrite any of the books, I'd choose one of the more boring ones (Bramblestar's Storm, Tigerheart's Shadow, etc.)
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Apr 23, 2021 19:08:49 GMT -5
I feel like I would have the first series and be done with it. The first series felt conclusive, and although it wasn’t perfect, it told its story well enough. Maybe some prequel novels, but other than that, nothing else. It’s not that I don’t like The books after that, but you can definitely tell that those six were just meant to be all that there was (especially with moving from the forest to the lake and how is the backstory around the lake just does not seem as developed, even generations later). I would also have Skyclan in the series from the get go, because I hated how they were just tacked on (and thrust Firestar into the spotlight after his own adventures had ended). This is despite the fact that I like Skyclan and like that they came back to the other Clans. As much as I like Warriors and some of the newer books, now it just feels like too much and it’s clear it was never meant to go on this long. I’ll keep on following the series until the end, but I feel like the end it should have been a long time ago... unfortunately, the authors other series haven’t panned out, and it’s clear those books are the only way they can make money (that we know of)... so the series itself, and probably the fan to read them, suffer for that... it’s a bit sad, to be honest...
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Post by Rainsplash on Apr 23, 2021 19:51:39 GMT -5
I would totally rewrite Leafpool's Wish, Mapleshade's Vengeance, and all later books since they are full of inconsistencies, ridiculous and plain characters and stuff that makes me want to cry and bang my head +Maybe from POT? NOT bring back Hollyleaf, make Ivypool actually SPY, and Dovewing to be more her personality, whatever that is. I'd make SkyClan stay at the gorge, and Foxleap, Icecloud, and other cute characters not die and have a happy family. When I think about it, I realize FireSand is literally the only main couple who didn't have drama of any sort. The jealousy doesn't count. Spottedleaf doesn't count as drama.
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 23, 2021 21:20:14 GMT -5
Mapleshade’s Vengeance, Spottedleaf’s Heart, The Last Hope, the entirety of The New Prophecy, Sunrise, the second half of A Vision of Shadows, Veil of Shadows.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 23, 2021 21:57:51 GMT -5
All of them, but especially the first arc. And MFV.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 24, 2021 1:09:12 GMT -5
I would make Mapleshade's Vengeance a super edition.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 24, 2021 10:37:35 GMT -5
I would rewrite Squirrelflight's Hope so that BrambleSquirrel just break up and simply decide to be good friends instead, which would hopefully result in them not clashing so much, because they both seemed to work rather well together as leader and deputy while not being in a romantic relationship during Bramblestar's Storm. Other than that, I would replace The Sisters rogue group with Sol and Sleekwhisker power tripping, until they get destroyed in the end.
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Post by Ghost/Aster on Apr 24, 2021 10:48:12 GMT -5
Honestly all of it. . Adding more plot in Po3 and OotS. I might just make AVoS a trilogy, and maybe have a super edition afterwards to finish things off? TBC would be pretty self indulgent, and have more explanation. Idk, but I may simply outline a rewrite.
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Post by quatrobajeena on Apr 24, 2021 13:16:22 GMT -5
hmm there's a bunch, but goosefeather's curse would be the one that I didn't remember liking but still enjoyed what it added to the lore GC just felt really rushed, and it's kind of a shame since pre-bluestar thunderclan is a really interesting place in warriors history that doesn't get touched on very often. it had this habit of timeskipping sporadically without making much sense, and i think that ten chapters just wasn't enough to give to someone like goosefeather. the one good thing i got out of it was appreciation for him as a character later on, but in his own book goosefeather isn't too likable. he's just the edgiest, most angsty little furball and when every other cat around him seems to be really supportive or tries to be, he drives them away by always being openly hostile. it'd be fine and well if he grew out of that, but we only get to see his early days as an apprentice and the transition from crowpaw to cryptic healer didn't go well at all. if goosefeather actually had a reason for how he acted or for his power to exist, it might've made far more sense; maybe headcanon him into having a forbidden relationship or something that makes StarClan angry and it'd fit in pretty nicely. just anything that isn't him turning into the nutty weirdo we see in bluestar and crookedstar's books early on from what was essentially a couple strange visions or four chapters of him misanthropically waltzing around camp to wait for a mapleshade cameo. that's another thing i'd either do away with or elaborate more on is the mapleshade scene; it's literally one or two pages: she tells goose she'll train him for some reason, and the next day goes something along the lines of mapleshade telling him 'starclan cursed you, tough luck lol'
if goose were descended from oakstar or someone responsible for what happened to mapleshade it might've made a little more sense, like it did with tigerclaw but here it's kinda dumb and doesn't serve any particular purpose. i honestly liked mapleshade as a character in crookedstar's promise; how she messes with him there works pretty well whereas in GC and most other cameos she's just there for the sake of being there for a chapter the last thing is that iirc it just ends with goose seeing a vision of pinestar leaving ThunderClan, not doing much to redeem him as a character other than "he's got these wack visions and sees ghost cats that are never explained, that's why he's such a weirdo in the other books!" if it were me i'd do something like having the last scene be him giving that omen to bluestar in her book from his perspective, and possibly explain some of the stuff TLH pulls out of its ass near the ending. i'd try to make the book less about goosefeather's eternal angst and more try to explain all of the huge plotholes starclan has, but the big issue was ten chapters not being enough time to flesh anything out. pinestar's book suffers from the same problem of timeskipping and killing off background characters that had one or two lines of dialogue that didn't serve much purpose besides dying. though what happened to him makes a little more sense since a vision from starclan and a nightmare or two might be indistinguishable and held a lot more weight
the only other big thing i'd change is having cinderpelt and cinderheart be one cat, since reincarnation shelved permanently after omen of the stars ended and hasn't been brought up since
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Post by Skypaw13 on Apr 24, 2021 17:12:34 GMT -5
I'd rewrite Into the Wild so Spottedleaf just leaves Firestar alone after she dies and only does the "wise mentor who died tragically at a young age" role. Her not being such a creep could make the books WAY better in my opinion, especially when you look at PoT and OOTS. Do you mean take out any hint of romance/crushing in Into the Wild? Or just make it so Spottedleaf and Fireheart stop interacting after her death in the later series? If the latter, I'd agree with you. If the former, I heavily disagree. Because Spottedleaf and Fireheart actually don't interact after her death in Into the Wild. It's not until Fire and Ice that she shows up again.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 24, 2021 17:22:41 GMT -5
I'd rewrite Into the Wild so Spottedleaf just leaves Firestar alone after she dies and only does the "wise mentor who died tragically at a young age" role. Her not being such a creep could make the books WAY better in my opinion, especially when you look at PoT and OOTS. Do you mean take out any hint of romance/crushing in Into the Wild? Or just make it so Spottedleaf and Fireheart stop interacting after her death in the later series? If the latter, I'd agree with you. If the former, I heavily disagree. Because Spottedleaf and Fireheart actually don't interact after her death in Into the Wild. It's not until Fire and Ice that she shows up again. Fire and Ice, I mean.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Apr 24, 2021 17:59:03 GMT -5
- Villain Star Flower - The end of Moth Flight’s Vision to change the reasoning for the medicine cats can’t have a mate or kits rule. - Shadowstar’s Life - Mapleshade’s Vengeance - Either make Raggedstar better in Yellowfang’s Secret or make Yellowfang actually realize he was a terrible mate at some point. - Just like entirely rewrite Spottedleaf’s Heart to have nothing to do with Thistleclaw and make it about how she always wanted to be a medicine cat (and some other interesting plot, I don’t know what though), or just remove this book entirely and get a whole new protagonist for that novella. - Fix the end of Redtail’s Debt. - Get rid of Spottedleaf’s annoyingness in Firestar’s dreams. - All of TNP, because the first half was boring and the second half annoyed me (I’d rework LeafCrow and BrambleSquirrelAsh especially, or pick alternate pairings because honestly I hate all of those ships). - Make Dove and Ivy’s arcs throughout OOTS better, and maybe just remove the Bumblestripe drama or at least make him not incredibly annoying. - Just get rid of the Cinderpelt/Cinderheart reincarnation subplot; it annoyed me a lot. - Bramblestar’s Storm - Rewrite The Raging Storm, or maybe the whole second half of AVOS. I’d remove Finleap being pushy about kits and instead just leave him and Twigbranch as mates without kits permanently. - Squirrelflight’s Hope - I’d change probably a decent amount with TBC, but I’m waiting on A Light in the Mist to release before I make final decisions about my opinions on certain plots. Darkness Within would definitely be more interesting though, because I really didn’t care for that book.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Apr 24, 2021 18:01:45 GMT -5
i'd rewrite the entirety of The Last Hope for sure
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Post by wolfcry32 on Apr 25, 2021 10:42:27 GMT -5
A Dangerous Path, which is a work in progress. This is all because I want Swiftpaw to live. This would change the entirety of the rest of the series of course.
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Post by fishbreeze on Apr 27, 2021 18:25:03 GMT -5
So many, but for simplicity's sake, I will just put the novellas I would change. Spottedleaf's Heart - This book did not need to exist, at all, it did nothing to help the series, in fact, it made it worse, and it put a stain that may never be erased. To change this, I would have made it about a different cat, who? I don't know, this book didn't really have much substance, so it could be thrown out all together. I think Thistleclaw training in the dark forest was justification enough, I mean, if it's the same for Antfur, why not? Tawnypelt's Clan - This book could have been about Tawnypaw changing clans, and trying to prove herself in shadowclan, while having to deal with the hostility from her former clanmates, rather than it being about Shadowkit and the tribe. Daisy's Kin - This book was better than a lot of the other novellas, but it felt like it was more about Coriander's kits than Daisy herself. I know a lot of it had to do with Smoky's feelings about not being able to raise his kits, but I was expecting more about Daisy herself, and life with her children, and especially her relationship with Spiderleg, who wasn't even mentioned once by the way. This book is good, but it's disappointing to me when I think of all the things they could have added instead. Mistystar's Omen - Less Mothwing centric please, this isn't her novella!
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Post by finland on Apr 28, 2021 10:14:59 GMT -5
The Last Hope
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 28, 2021 14:18:48 GMT -5
Also: Spottedleaf's Heart. Instead, it would be about her deciding beetwen being a warrior or Medicine cat, and finally deciding that her heart lay in the Medicine den. Her relationship with Thistleclaw wouldn't exist- but we would certainly see him going to madness after Snowfur's death and going into killing sprees out of "revenge", eventually sending him to the Dark forest. Maybe because of this, Spottedpaw then decided she does not want to end lives or fight for pointless territory- she wants to heal and help. This would slightly connect her with Thistleclaw, but not in a romantic way.
Squirrelflight's Hope, of course. I would rewrite the plot. Make Bramblestar less of a jerk, for starters. I would also kill a few cats, and not have almost all of the cast be OOC. I don't have any idea about the plot yet, but of course, it needs to be rewritten.
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