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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 7, 2021 15:12:45 GMT -5
it's no secret im a huge sol fan. i like his sleazy, lazy evil tactics. he's a charming manipulator who can't fight, and he uses his brains and charm to get people to do his bidding. the other villains we've had r all brawn. sol was the brains.
i want him to come back. in oots, he promises to get revenge and show the clans that the code sucks...and guess what? he's due to come back.
tigerstar 1 was in the first arc, then had cameos here and there, had his last hurrah in oots, and died for good in oots. that's over 3 arcs. ashfur was becoming an antagonistic figure in TNP, the becomes the last main obstacle/antagonist in po3. 3 arcs later, he's the main villain in TBC and he's going to presumeably die by the end just like tigerstar 1 (this isnt a spoiler since this is just speculation on a pattern for villains).
so by this pattern, sol should come back after TBC. sleekwhisker should come back after sol, etc.
do u think sol will return? or do u think im just being a conspiracy theorist? lol i'll admit to being a sol fan-girl, but i just thought this was interesting. the only ones who dont fit the pattern r hawkfrost and mapleshade bc their stories were tied to tigerstar 1's.
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Post by Snowfire on Apr 7, 2021 15:18:29 GMT -5
I kind of hope he does, this arc would’ve been a good arc to bring him back since he has a thing against StarClan, would be nice if we some him again at some point
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 15:18:33 GMT -5
No shade but I sure as hell hope not. He was a loser from the beginning and just got worse and worse each time we saw him.
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Post by Phoenix1410 on Apr 7, 2021 15:59:30 GMT -5
To be honest, it's weird and disappointing that Sol hasn't even shown up since TFW. It's a loose thread with a lot of potential. Not using him as a villain would be a waste. With AVoS and the current Arc there have been ample opportunities to bring him back. Especially with TBC it would make sense to bring him back - the Arc is literally named after the Warrior Code, one of Sols gripes with the Clans and part of his core motivation for wanting to destroy them. (Sorry Ashfur, although you are reasonably well written this time around, Sol's motivation would at least fit this arc and its themes.) But alas, it doesn't look like he's going to show up anytime soon.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 7, 2021 16:04:13 GMT -5
To be honest, it's weird and disappointing that Sol hasn't even shown up since TFW. It's a loose thread with a lot of potential. Not using him as a villain would be a waste. With AVoS and the current Arc there have been ample opportunities to bring him back. Especially with TBC it would make sense to bring him back - the Arc is literally named after the Warrior Code, one of Sols gripes with the Clans and part of his core motivation for wanting to destroy them. (Sorry Ashfur, although you are reasonably well written this time around, Sol's motivation would at least fit this arc and its themes.) But alas, it doesn't look like he's going to show up anytime soon. i've been saying that too! the broken CODE...sol's last words were to show the clans the code sucks? like hello? HUGE wasted opportunity to bring sol back! if anything, i can add sleekwhisker to my headcanon/theory and have her team up with sol to get two villains in one. i'll hold out hope for him to return with one last hurrah of villany like tigerstar 1.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 7, 2021 16:05:36 GMT -5
No shade but I sure as hell hope not. He was a loser from the beginning and just got worse and worse each time we saw him. ik people dont like sol, but im still gonna blame that on the stupid skyclan manga. they made him a whiney baby...when he wasn't originally like that. he was cunning and manipulative. he was charming enough to convince people to believe whatever he said, and he had good points about the clans not needing starclan AND that the code sucks. sol was right all along, and he wasn't a fighter, but a schemer. him being a whiney baby before power of 3 ruined his image for a lot of people, but im still gonna say sol is awesome bc he's different from other villains.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 7, 2021 16:09:57 GMT -5
I hope that if Sol does show up in a future arc it will be his final appearance so we have truly seen the last of him this time around. Preferably I'm expecting a team up with Sleekwhisker which ends with both of them getting absolutely wrecked by the Clans.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 7, 2021 16:15:57 GMT -5
I hope that if Sol does show up in a future arc it will be his final appearance so we have truly seen the last of him this time around. Preferably I'm expecting a team up with Sleekwhisker which ends with both of them getting absolutely wrecked by the Clans. the series is very keen these days to bring up the past. while i dont agree with digging up old plots and characters, they might as well go full force with it til all the old stuff is over and done. so if sol comes back, im expecting him to die so his story can finally end.
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 7, 2021 16:52:24 GMT -5
Unlikely at this point.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 7, 2021 17:03:25 GMT -5
Sol should show up again so he can be killed off in the lamest way possible, showing truly how pathetic he is. Running away didn't do his end justice for me.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 7, 2021 17:15:06 GMT -5
Sol should show up again so he can be killed off in the lamest way possible, showing truly how pathetic he is. Running away didn't do his end justice for me. i dont think he should be shown as pathetic the whole time. i dont think sol is super pathetic. he's only pathetic bc of his tactics (getting others to fight for him bc he's physically weak and unskilled). sol should go out with a cryptic one liner when he gets caught on his own and killed (lets face it, he wont put up a fight lol. if all the cats he manipulated die for him and he's alone, he'll 100% die)
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Post by cable on Apr 7, 2021 19:13:32 GMT -5
i hope not lmao.
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 7, 2021 19:40:35 GMT -5
Honestly I did kind of want him to be the Imposter. I really did. His tight worshipping of the code and Starclan being a twisted kind of mockery to show just how much he hated the clans and what they stood for, while also getting back at Shadowclan by using their own medicine cat as a false messenger boy. A vengeful ghost overtaking a body, as he would not go to Starclan or the Dark Forest when he died anyway.
I dunno. I would have liked that more than Ashfur gaining god powers for no reason beside wanting Squirrelflight like a trophy.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 7, 2021 21:30:07 GMT -5
Honestly I did kind of want him to be the Imposter. I really did. His tight worshipping of the code and Starclan being a twisted kind of mockery to show just how much he hated the clans and what they stood for, while also getting back at Shadowclan by using their own medicine cat as a false messenger boy. A vengeful ghost overtaking a body, as he would not go to Starclan or the Dark Forest when he died anyway. I dunno. I would have liked that more than Ashfur gaining god powers for no reason beside wanting Squirrelflight like a trophy. me too. i wanted him to be the imposter, but when it was revealed to be ashfur, i was holding out hope that sol would be the mastermind. my thought was that if a non-clan group like the sisters have ghost powers and stuff, then if sol managed to take them over or manipulate them like he did shadowclan, he'd use the sisters powers for his bidding and get ashfur to do his bidding as the imposter, etc. but TBC is gonna end soon so its not even a possibility anymore...a huge disappointment in my opinion.
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Post by Phoenix1410 on Apr 8, 2021 5:32:26 GMT -5
One thing that still kinda irritates me about TBC is that we still don't know how Ashfur knows that possession is even possible.
It makes sense to us, the readers, that Ashfur should know about possession since he is a ghost, and we humans have centuries of folklore about how ghosts, demons, and other supernatural beings have this ability of possession. But the thing is, the clans are not a human society. They don't have the capabilities to know this. (And no, the situation with Cinderheart doesn't really count as possession, because it was mostly treated as reincarnation and only became a possession in the last book of OotS due to "plot", I guess.) So how does Ashfur know about the capability of possession then? I doubt that an instructions about possession lies in the middle of StarClan, nor that he found out about it through dying.
With Sol, it is at least easy to find an explanation for how he would know. He's always traveling, so he may have run into a group of cats who believe in possession. Or maybe even he found out about it through Midnight (she originally told Sol about the solar eclipse, so she could have trusted him with more knowledge).
(Sorry if my venting is annoying, I just find the lack of explanation frustrating...)
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Post by finland on Apr 8, 2021 8:50:09 GMT -5
Wasn't he chased out?
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Post by Ponyboy on Apr 8, 2021 10:05:48 GMT -5
I sure hope so, also in defence of him being whiny in SkyClan and the Stranger, Sol was a (probably) young cat who just had his dreams ripped away from him when he was so close to achieving them, and this took place before Power of Three.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 8, 2021 12:49:47 GMT -5
he was teaching windclan how to fight in the tunnels and leads them to battle thunderclan. he is chased away, swears revenge to prove to the clans that the code sucks, and is never seen or heard from again....it's a very huge loose end.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 8, 2021 12:51:00 GMT -5
I sure hope so, also in defence of him being whiny in SkyClan and the Stranger, Sol was a (probably) young cat who just had his dreams ripped away from him when he was so close to achieving them, and this took place before Power of Three. idk how long ago the skyclan manga was but i doubt sol was an actual apprentice age and had reason to act like an immature brat lol. i would like to think he was bc i dont wanna think of po3-oots sol being so whiney. he's a sleazy con man and schemer, not a temper tantrum brat.
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Post by crowfeather48 on Oct 29, 2021 20:49:25 GMT -5
Sol is a good fighter and he is probably the smartest villain of warriors cats but for me he is not a villain and I hope he can have his redemption in the future
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 29, 2021 20:52:44 GMT -5
crowfeather48please don't post on anything months old! it's called necroposting and its against the rules
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Post by crowfeather48 on Oct 29, 2021 20:52:52 GMT -5
Sol is not weak at all in the manga of skyclan we can see sol beating a warrior in a fight
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Post by crowfeather48 on Oct 29, 2021 20:55:56 GMT -5
crowfeather48please don't post on anything months old! it's called necroposting and its against the rule4s I beg you pardon?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 21:05:24 GMT -5
crowfeather48 please don't post on anything months old! it's called necroposting and its against the rule4s I beg you pardon? Stop necroposting
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 22:13:14 GMT -5
I think he’d be a pretty interesting opponent for monkeystar and warriorclan to face
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Post by Cloudstorm on Oct 29, 2021 22:36:01 GMT -5
I hope that if Sol does show up in a future arc it will be his final appearance so we have truly seen the last of him this time around. Preferably I'm expecting a team up with Sleekwhisker which ends with both of them getting absolutely wrecked by the Clans. I’d absolutely love for Sol to return with sleekwhisker and the Remains of darktails kin and wreak Havoc , while he’s definitely a coward , he’s got cunning and is A Snake-tongued , sibilant Manipulator that could easily use his intelligence, and devious wit to persuade rogues and loners etc into becoming loyal followers under him , until he was able to amass a large enough army to cause some serious damage . Probably only time I’d approve of a villain returning from being a previous antagonist.
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