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Post by ᴡɪɴᴅʏᴛᴜʀᴛʟᴇ/Meadowrunner on Apr 1, 2021 11:20:44 GMT -5
Which sister do you think you would prefer to maybe be leader sometime? Although, right now, It's probably going to be Squirrelstar. But, seriously, which is your preference and opinion on if they would be suited as a leader?
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Post by Shadowflight on Apr 1, 2021 11:24:39 GMT -5
i would love to see ivystar! i don't like dovewing anymore because she made too many bad choices.
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Post by ᴡɪɴᴅʏᴛᴜʀᴛʟᴇ/Meadowrunner on Apr 1, 2021 11:31:34 GMT -5
It's Ivystar for me, too.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 1, 2021 11:46:44 GMT -5
Ivystar having constant arguments and battles with Dovewing's mate sounds like a great storyline to me.
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Post by Harestar on Apr 1, 2021 12:29:13 GMT -5
Ivystar. I do not think Dovewing would be a very good leader, and I cannot see it being something she would want.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 1, 2021 12:53:25 GMT -5
Ivystar is a better choice. She's stoic, serious, loyal, a great hunter and fighter, can make good decisions under pressure, has plenty of experience in leadership and mentoring, and she can be headstrong and blunt, but very dedicated towards her Clan. I think she'd be pretty fit to be leader. On the other hand, Dovewing is not made for leadership. Besides, her character is not one who would like to be leader. She dosen't work under pressure well, she can make sudden decisions, she's emotional and not the best hunter or fighter. She's also a bit unsure of herself, and is generally a worrier. She also dosen't have any experience in mentoring and she feels very easily stressed, so she's not leadership material. If anything, i would like her to be a permanent queen or just stay as a warrior.
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Post by Fireleap on Apr 1, 2021 13:09:57 GMT -5
Ivystar
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 1, 2021 13:13:48 GMT -5
Neither. And absolute no to Dovestar, purely because she'd do better as a Permanent Queen instead and I very much want her to be that waaaaaaaay over leader or even deputy. It just doesn't seem like roles she'd like in the slightest, plus all the other things some folks have mentioned, she's not really cut out for the job.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 1, 2021 13:17:23 GMT -5
Ivystar, easy choice considering she's overqualified at this point. Dovewing on the other hand seems much better as a permaqueen or a kittypet, in general.
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 1, 2021 13:17:27 GMT -5
Ivystar easy
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 1, 2021 13:34:16 GMT -5
neither. i dont want ivypool as leader and i dont understand the hype for her either. by now, give a younger, new cat a chance (and im not talking bristlefrost, i dont like her as deputy/leader either). thunderclan. shadowclan, and riverclan need to take a page out of harestar's and hawkwing's book: make someone new deputy and give them a chance.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Apr 1, 2021 17:59:26 GMT -5
This is genuinely the first time I've seen anyone even remotely consider Dovewing as a leader.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 1, 2021 18:49:14 GMT -5
Ivystar. Even if Dovewing had a shot at becoming a leader, it'd be seen as nepotism for good reason.
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Post by cygna on Apr 1, 2021 21:42:42 GMT -5
I don’t love either of them too much or think they would be particularly great leaders but I want Ivypool to get growth, and she might get that as leader. I don’t think she ever needs to forgive Dovewing, I know that’s what a lot of people want but I think they can both move on without ever becoming close again. I do however want her to be put in a position in which she has to put her own feelings(pettiness) aside and work with Tigerstar.
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Post by Rainsplash on Apr 2, 2021 1:36:03 GMT -5
Neither But Ivystar is better
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Post by Malefiz on Apr 14, 2021 5:19:16 GMT -5
ivystar, but i doubt she will ever become leader
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 11:32:22 GMT -5
Easily Ivystar. I can't even see Dovewing as a stand-in deputy lol
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Apr 14, 2021 12:09:08 GMT -5
I think Dovewing may make a better deputy as opposed to leader. In The Broken Code, she's shown to be calming Tigerstar consistently (not to mention comforting Shadowsight commonly) and is kind and understanding towards her Clanmates, but strong-willed enough to stand up for herself and the ones she loves. She's able to keep her head to qualify for deputy, but I'm pretty sure she isn't ambitious enough to be leader.
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Post by Emeraldripple on Apr 15, 2021 10:03:04 GMT -5
I haven't read the last few books, only heard the spoilers, so I don't have full context. But from what I know about the two of them, I think Ivypool has more of the mindset that would make for a good leader. She's more of a big-picture type than Dovewing, which is what a clan leader should be.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Apr 15, 2021 11:55:46 GMT -5
definitely ivystar. personal feelings on dovewing aside, she's far too internal and focused on her own emotions/what she wants to be a good leader, and i think she'd let her feelings for her family in thunderclan cloud her judgement when it comes to shadowclan versus thunderclan matters. she'd probably be a better permaqueen as someone above mentioned
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 15, 2021 19:39:15 GMT -5
You have to be decisive and strong to be a leader
Dovewing is none of these things.
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Post by ʙʀᴀᴄᴋᴇɴꜱᴜɴ ♞ on Apr 16, 2021 15:51:47 GMT -5
Dovewing bores me and I've grown to have a sour taste in my mouth whenever I think of her.
Ivypool is an interesting character and has the right qualities to be a leader.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Apr 16, 2021 15:59:59 GMT -5
Dovewing would not make a good leader at all. Ivystar.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on May 6, 2021 15:29:36 GMT -5
Neither of them, I want a Twigstar actually. But I can't imagine Dovewing wanting to be a leader.
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Post by Aqua on May 6, 2021 16:43:54 GMT -5
neither. i dont want ivypool as leader and i dont understand the hype for her either. by now, give a younger, new cat a chance (and im not talking bristlefrost, i dont like her as deputy/leader either). thunderclan. shadowclan, and riverclan need to take a page out of harestar's and hawkwing's book: make someone new deputy and give them a chance. Pretty much this. ThunderClan has so many other cats they can use to be a deputy. I don't even care if they even make Fernsong a deputy, but if they give Ivypool that position it's obvious it'll be for pleasing the fans. They've had background cats become deputy before, I don't see why they can't now. Ivypool would probably make a decent deputy, but do we really need another former important cat to steal the spotlight again? Just bring someone new into the spotlight. I'm tired of the Erins using older cats like Ivypool and Squirrelflight becoming deputy just because they had "the most experience". A background cat can grow just fine with a new position without experience. And I'm not saying this to spite people or piss them off or whatever, but it's so boring and predictable to use the same cats over and over again. It's lazy and I want someone new. At least they tried with the new three protagonists, even if they're not all that well written (except Rootspring was pretty good).
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Post by Featherstar on May 6, 2021 16:56:31 GMT -5
Ivypool. Ivypool is a tough She-cat and acts like a real warrior. Dovewing is a betrayed cat, more than that she is an insult to the warrior code. Ivypool stayed in her Clan and did not break the warrior code.
Ivypool is my vote.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 6, 2021 17:22:02 GMT -5
neither. i dont want ivypool as leader and i dont understand the hype for her either. by now, give a younger, new cat a chance (and im not talking bristlefrost, i dont like her as deputy/leader either). thunderclan. shadowclan, and riverclan need to take a page out of harestar's and hawkwing's book: make someone new deputy and give them a chance. Pretty much this. ThunderClan has so many other cats they can use to be a deputy. I don't even care if they even make Fernsong a deputy, but if they give Ivypool that position it's obvious it'll be for pleasing the fans. They've had background cats become deputy before, I don't see why they can't now. Ivypool would probably make a decent deputy, but do we really need another former important cat to steal the spotlight again? Just bring someone new into the spotlight. I'm tired of the Erins using older cats like Ivypool and Squirrelflight becoming deputy just because they had "the most experience". A background cat can grow just fine with a new position without experience. And I'm not saying this to spite people or piss them off or whatever, but it's so boring and predictable to use the same cats over and over again. It's lazy and I want someone new. At least they tried with the new three protagonists, even if they're not all that well written (except Rootspring was pretty good). people assume "only protags have experience" bc we see them up close, we see exactly what kind of experience they get bc its their POV's, etc. but background characters can easily have same or even more experience, we just dont see it. i usually dont like the "we just dont see it" argument, but for leaders and deputies, i'll agree with it. thats why i keep bringing up rosepetal. her having so many apprentices could have meant SOMETHING, something to do with her possibly becoming deputy someday. apprentices = experience. but bc cats like rosepetal werent protags or POV focus, people will say "just bc she had a ton of apprentices, doesnt mean she could have been good leadership material." which makes no sense to me. background cats deserve more credit and more focus. flesh out the clans. give the audience more OPTIONS. protags or former protags should NOT be the only options people should bring up when discussing possible future deputies/leaders! im annoyed at seeing people still insist on ivypool, bristlefrost, etc. the same old same old options again and again.
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Post by Aqua on May 6, 2021 18:46:18 GMT -5
Pretty much this. ThunderClan has so many other cats they can use to be a deputy. I don't even care if they even make Fernsong a deputy, but if they give Ivypool that position it's obvious it'll be for pleasing the fans. They've had background cats become deputy before, I don't see why they can't now. Ivypool would probably make a decent deputy, but do we really need another former important cat to steal the spotlight again? Just bring someone new into the spotlight. I'm tired of the Erins using older cats like Ivypool and Squirrelflight becoming deputy just because they had "the most experience". A background cat can grow just fine with a new position without experience. And I'm not saying this to spite people or piss them off or whatever, but it's so boring and predictable to use the same cats over and over again. It's lazy and I want someone new. At least they tried with the new three protagonists, even if they're not all that well written (except Rootspring was pretty good). people assume "only protags have experience" bc we see them up close, we see exactly what kind of experience they get bc its their POV's, etc. but background characters can easily have same or even more experience, we just dont see it. i usually dont like the "we just dont see it" argument, but for leaders and deputies, i'll agree with it. thats why i keep bringing up rosepetal. her having so many apprentices could have meant SOMETHING, something to do with her possibly becoming deputy someday. apprentices = experience. but bc cats like rosepetal werent protags or POV focus, people will say "just bc she had a ton of apprentices, doesnt mean she could have been good leadership material." which makes no sense to me. background cats deserve more credit and more focus. flesh out the clans. give the audience more OPTIONS. protags or former protags should NOT be the only options people should bring up when discussing possible future deputies/leaders! im annoyed at seeing people still insist on ivypool, bristlefrost, etc. the same old same old options again and again. What has Bristlefrost even done to earn deputyship? I haven't been reading TBC, but it's really unfair to say she deserves it when there's so many cats capable of being deputy other than her and Ivypool! She used to be my favorite character though but I lost interest in her.
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