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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 25, 2021 11:28:59 GMT -5
These two get alot of hate and my friend wanted to see which was worse.
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Aroace
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 25, 2021 11:38:54 GMT -5
FireSpotted was way worse and I despise TigerDove but the age gap isn't as questionable and their relationship at least had some development before becoming serious. Still don't like them either though.
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Post by Brindlefern on Mar 25, 2021 12:03:26 GMT -5
FireSpotted was and is just all sorts of gross. TigerDove, for all its flaws, at least had a lot of development to it and turned out healthy eventually. Not to mention it didn't end in some forced tragedy that I'm expected to care about, instead it technically got a happy ending.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Mar 25, 2021 12:20:04 GMT -5
As changeable as DovexTiger was, it was never disturbing, for they were both young cats who had misunderstandings and were in complicated situations that set them up against each other (Littlecloud's sickness, Dawnpelt's accusation, falling in love despite being in different Clans, etc.).
SpottedxFire was a whole different story. Spottedleaf was much older, shared almost no romantic (or even friendship!) interactions with Firepaw, and was obsessed with him even in her death.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 25, 2021 12:24:39 GMT -5
FireSpotted imo. It was gross, the age gap is uncomfortable, it's undeveloped, seriously unhealthy, and creepy. Meanwhile TigerDove atleast had some developement, and it turned out to be healthy in the end.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Mar 25, 2021 12:29:54 GMT -5
Spottedfire was awful both due to the age gap and Spottedleaf’s obsession. Firestar still mourned her (understandably) but he was able to move on and find a new love. She never did despite being dying, and I wonder if ghosts were introduced at the time she died if she would’ve been pulling some shenanigans against Sandstorm or otherwise causing problems. I can see her not moving onto StarClan because of what happened, and being forced to accept it (which is effectively what happened in the canon books, even though she was in Starclan and accepting it meant getting killed in battle saving Sandstorm). I still wonder how her character might have developed if she had lived longer, and if Firestar would have realized it was the equivalent of a teenage crush and couldn’t go anywhere and moved on.
Tigerdove at least had the two be around the same age, and got some development. I’m still not a fan of all the drama and issues that caused, but at least the two were happy with each other and both were alive. It’s not my favorite pairing (to be fair, there’s not that many pairings I like in Warriors), but it’s not bad either
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Mar 25, 2021 13:45:43 GMT -5
i only voted for dovextiger because it was on screen, more prominant, more rushed and forced upon the audience...after firestar's SE, fire x spotted stopped being a relevant thing and firestar clearly told spottedleaf to move on and leave him alone, and she clearly did. meanwhile, dove x tiger was forced in our faces and stayed around too long...things are obviously better with dovewing in shadowclan so idk why the writers had to drag bumblestripe through the mud for so long only for dovewing to dump him like trash and run off with tigerheart. she should have just left thunderclan right after her novella or something. jeez.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 25, 2021 16:17:47 GMT -5
i only voted for dovextiger because it was on screen, more prominant, more rushed and forced upon the audience...after firestar's SE, fire x spotted stopped being a relevant thing and firestar clearly told spottedleaf to move on and leave him alone, and she clearly did. meanwhile, dove x tiger was forced in our faces and stayed around too long...things are obviously better with dovewing in shadowclan so idk why the writers had to drag bumblestripe through the mud for so long only for dovewing to dump him like trash and run off with tigerheart. she should have just left thunderclan right after her novella or something. jeez. Except Spottedleaf didn't move on and leave him alone. After FQ she stuck around to bother his descendants and clearly has a thing for him up to and including The Last Hope where she double dies. So that's 4 arcs and an SE of at least minimal involvement. Compared to DoveTiger's two arcs and SE, that's... a lot. I do agree with you that the authors pushed DoveTiger a lot harder though, to the point of dragging other characters into it (Bumble, Ivy) and generally making a mess of things. For all FireSpotted's flaws, at least it only involved the two of them.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Mar 25, 2021 16:35:25 GMT -5
i only voted for dovextiger because it was on screen, more prominant, more rushed and forced upon the audience...after firestar's SE, fire x spotted stopped being a relevant thing and firestar clearly told spottedleaf to move on and leave him alone, and she clearly did. meanwhile, dove x tiger was forced in our faces and stayed around too long...things are obviously better with dovewing in shadowclan so idk why the writers had to drag bumblestripe through the mud for so long only for dovewing to dump him like trash and run off with tigerheart. she should have just left thunderclan right after her novella or something. jeez. Except Spottedleaf didn't move on and leave him alone. After FQ she stuck around to bother his descendants and clearly has a thing for him up to and including The Last Hope where she double dies. So that's 4 arcs and an SE of at least minimal involvement. Compared to DoveTiger's two arcs and SE, that's... a lot. I do agree with you that the authors pushed DoveTiger a lot harder though, to the point of dragging other characters into it (Bumble, Ivy) and generally making a mess of things. For all FireSpotted's flaws, at least it only involved the two of them. spottedleaf didnt directly interact with firestar, which is why i dont count her bothering his kin as firexspotted fuel. its completely one sided for spottedleaf, which is why i think dovextiger is worse. both dove and tiger refused to move on and created more drama in AVOS which wasnt even about them anymore. dovextiger had oots, half of avos in the background (except for the part where dovewing leaves with him or whatever, idk, i didnt read the second half of avos to support this one), and a whole SE about trying to make them work together as a canon pairing again...to me, this is way more than firexspotted and since dovextiger was mutual and both cats involved were annoying, i deem dovextiger worse
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Mar 25, 2021 16:57:06 GMT -5
Can I pick both?
I really hate the FirexSpotted ship, I always have. They barely interacted with each other when they were alive - it was basically just puppy love (kitten love?). Nothing more than a minor crush on the other.
But I also really hate DovexTiger, and again, I always have. The forbidden romances have just gotten exhausting to be honest, and while I do enjoy that a relationship actually got real development, I still hate this ship (and I swear it's probably not just because of how much I hate Tigerheartstar). I just don't think these two have much chemistry. I hated that they got together when she was still an apprentice and he was a warrior (I'm in the middle of re-reading Night Whispers right now so I can picture these scenes very clearly lmao). I liked the idea of them having a forbidden friendship thing that never truly developed into a relationship (think Lion and Heather). They just irritate me, and the way their relationship completely tears apart Ivypool and Dovewing's friendship pisses me off. Tigerheart turned Dovepaw into a reckless, irresponsible, irrational, incredibly annoying lovesick fool, and I hate it, because I loved Dovepaw in the earlier books.
So yeah, both suck.
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Asexual
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 25, 2021 17:07:44 GMT -5
FireSpotted. At least DoveTiger actually loved each other and it involved no questionable age gap, no romantic choice who happened to be dead, and no creepy stalking (at least from what I remember). I'm meh on DoveTiger and really annoyed about how long it dragged on for, but FireSpotted was dragged out for far longer (TLH, anyone?)
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