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Post by Redstorm on Mar 23, 2021 15:24:59 GMT -5
I see Ashfur being the most evil cat getting thrown sometimes and I myself was starting to lean with The Imposter being the most evil cat. But one reason is because he's the only one to have had these superpowers.
What do you think other cats would do if they had The Imposter's powers? Consider not only villains, but also cats such as Hollyleaf, etc.
Do you think there would be any non villain cats who would turn evil if given the power? Any villain you think would do more harm than The Imposter?
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Mar 23, 2021 15:43:48 GMT -5
I could see Mapleshade possessing cats' bodies and then throwing herself over the edge or drowning herself in order to kill them in a twisted sort of revenge.
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Post by vectoring34 on Mar 23, 2021 15:44:20 GMT -5
I think Hollyleaf with those powers sounds awesome. After killing Ashfur she accidentally steals his soul, and she's left hearing his voice everywhere and seeing his reflection inside of her, never leaving her in peace. It makes her even more unstable and shatters her sanity even further, and I think that her plan to get rid of Leafpool would more likely be to possess her body and then have her admit everything herself in order to totally ruin her life. And instead of running into the tunnels, she'd probably seal herself into the Dark Forest and just sit there in misery, becoming an anathema to both sides in OOTS.
I usually hate Hollyleaf having powers as an AU, but I think there's some potential here purely for the potential of the Ashfur ghost haunting her and driving her even further over the edge.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Mar 23, 2021 16:27:54 GMT -5
Pre-redemption OOTS-era Breezepelt would probably do everything he could to make Crowfeather/Leafpool/The Three's lives miserable. As a spirit, I can see him whispering to them like The Imposter did to Shadowsight, but with the end goal of driving them insane (or worse). He'd be like negative self-talk but amplified to the extreme.
Leafpool is tormented day and night by thoughts like "it's your fault Hollyleaf died, you killed your own daughter with your hubris, was young love worth leaving Cinderpelt to die, your sons will never forgive you, you've condemned your sister to a life of ridicule with your selfishness". Unfortunately for Breezepelt, Leafpool is probably used to thoughts like these. Crowfeather is also plagued by self-hate, so same for him.
Jayfeather would still have his powers, so he would likely recognize that Breezepelt has wormed his way into his head somehow. Getting Breezepelt out would be the issue, but the mind games wouldn't work on Jay.
Breezepelt would probably have the most success getting to Lionblaze; whenever he's in battle or even a minor conflict, a voice urges him to give into his primal instincts and kill. I can see Lionblaze eventually giving in, commiting an atrocity, and fleeing the Clans like Hollyleaf did before him.
As for Hollyleaf, if he figured out that she was going to leave the tunnels, he would need to come up with a plan. He'd have to possess some recently-deceased ThunderClanner (maybe Longtail?) and confront her near the tunnels; screaming that she's a traitor and a murderer, and all of ThunderClan knows what she did. By making her believe that she'll never be able to go home to ThunderClan, Hollyleaf flees back into the tunnels and condemns herself to immortality as a spirit with Fallen Leaves.
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Post by vectoring34 on Mar 23, 2021 16:51:51 GMT -5
Pre-redemption OOTS-era Breezepelt would probably do everything he could to make Crowfeather/Leafpool/The Three's lives miserable. As a spirit, I can see him whispering to them like The Imposter did to Shadowsight, but with the end goal of driving them insane (or worse). He'd be like negative self-talk but amplified to the extreme. Leafpool is tormented day and night by thoughts like " it's your fault Hollyleaf died, you killed your own daughter with your hubris, was young love worth leaving Cinderpelt to die, your sons will never forgive you, you've condemned your sister to a life of ridicule with your selfishness". Unfortunately for Breezepelt, Leafpool is probably used to thoughts like these. Crowfeather is also plagued by self-hate, so same for him. Jayfeather would still have his powers, so he would likely recognize that Breezepelt has wormed his way into his head somehow. Getting Breezepelt out would be the issue, but the mind games wouldn't work on Jay. Breezepelt would probably have the most success getting to Lionblaze; whenever he's in battle or even a minor conflict, a voice urges him to give into his primal instincts and kill. I can see Lionblaze eventually giving in, commiting an atrocity, and fleeing the Clans like Hollyleaf did before him. As for Hollyleaf, if he figured out that she was going to leave the tunnels, he would need to come up with a plan. He'd have to possess some recently-deceased ThunderClanner (maybe Longtail?) and confront her near the tunnels; screaming that she's a traitor and a murderer, and all of ThunderClan knows what she did. By making her believe that she'll never be able to go home to ThunderClan, Hollyleaf flees back into the tunnels and condemns herself to immortality as a spirit with Fallen Leaves. Breezepelt's problem is that he honestly doesn't know them very well. It would be difficult for him to find the necessary dirt to affect them, and if he gets it wrong, then his credibility drops massively. If he listens to Hawkfrost and Tigerstar, who do know Lionblaze at least very well, then he can get the job done. Which I think is the real scariest part. Breezepelt alone without those powers is scary, but he's neither smart nor competent. It's like giving a four year old a gun. On the other hand, with mentors like Brokenstar, Tigerstar, and Hawkfrost to direct him properly, he can do terrible, terrible things.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 23, 2021 17:15:41 GMT -5
I can see Darktail just doing his best to make SkyClan and ShadowClan's lives an absolute misery out of pure revenge.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Mar 23, 2021 17:57:39 GMT -5
Pre-redemption OOTS-era Breezepelt would probably do everything he could to make Crowfeather/Leafpool/The Three's lives miserable. As a spirit, I can see him whispering to them like The Imposter did to Shadowsight, but with the end goal of driving them insane (or worse). He'd be like negative self-talk but amplified to the extreme. Leafpool is tormented day and night by thoughts like " it's your fault Hollyleaf died, you killed your own daughter with your hubris, was young love worth leaving Cinderpelt to die, your sons will never forgive you, you've condemned your sister to a life of ridicule with your selfishness". Unfortunately for Breezepelt, Leafpool is probably used to thoughts like these. Crowfeather is also plagued by self-hate, so same for him. Jayfeather would still have his powers, so he would likely recognize that Breezepelt has wormed his way into his head somehow. Getting Breezepelt out would be the issue, but the mind games wouldn't work on Jay. Breezepelt would probably have the most success getting to Lionblaze; whenever he's in battle or even a minor conflict, a voice urges him to give into his primal instincts and kill. I can see Lionblaze eventually giving in, commiting an atrocity, and fleeing the Clans like Hollyleaf did before him. As for Hollyleaf, if he figured out that she was going to leave the tunnels, he would need to come up with a plan. He'd have to possess some recently-deceased ThunderClanner (maybe Longtail?) and confront her near the tunnels; screaming that she's a traitor and a murderer, and all of ThunderClan knows what she did. By making her believe that she'll never be able to go home to ThunderClan, Hollyleaf flees back into the tunnels and condemns herself to immortality as a spirit with Fallen Leaves. Breezepelt's problem is that he honestly doesn't know them very well. It would be difficult for him to find the necessary dirt to affect them, and if he gets it wrong, then his credibility drops massively. If he listens to Hawkfrost and Tigerstar, who do know Lionblaze at least very well, then he can get the job done. Which I think is the real scariest part. Breezepelt alone without those powers is scary, but he's neither smart nor competent. It's like giving a four year old a gun. On the other hand, with mentors like Brokenstar, Tigerstar, and Hawkfrost to direct him properly, he can do terrible, terrible things. That's true, but my assumption was that he would listen in on their thoughts first so he could gather the proper ammunition. But you're absolutely right that the Dark Forest coaching him would make him infinitely more dangerous. That's such a horrifying concept - angsty, isolated Breezepelt having supernatural powers, as well as a team of much smarter coaches who can instruct him on how to use it. Now I'm thinking of the potential for an AU where Breezepelt is the fourth prophecy cat and has powers like this, but still fights on the side of the Dark Forest against the Three.
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