Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 12:57:03 GMT -5
Yes g, sir your hands please 💍 🧎♂️ i didnt have a propsing emoji so pretend thia is on one knee
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 13:22:49 GMT -5
Okay, here's one of the things Ember and I did: How Ember Traumatized The Students And Pine Made It Even Worse In a Failed Attempt To Stop Her - Part 1
Where do I even begin? Maybe with the stuff that happens after the Ethereal Moon? Some of it at least. Remember how we planned to have Akakios fake his death as Julius, and Searc get severely injured? Well, Neason won't take either of those well (obviously) but Ember made things even worse for him. He's gonna run away for a month. I added to it by having Akakios pose as a church member and he'll say some harsh things to Neason. Here's what I wrote back then:
Since then I've named the church member and the knight, they're Amatus and Farvald now. Haven't made character forms for them though since they won't appear much before Akakios impersonates them. As for why Yutaka, Tahvo and Larissa are seen as suspicious, that's because the racist cult (the ones for the Verdant Rain Moon Mission) has ignored them completely. That, and because Tahvo and Lara arrived much later than the other students at the beginning of the year. Anyway, at some point Larissa decides to investigate on her own as she's had enough of her and the other two being wrongfully suspected. She wants to find out who's really behind this. Unfortunately for her the spies are prepared for that and one of them captures her. Which brings me to our next point! Instead of having actually killed Ambrose, Julius and Adora the Agarthans have just captured them and keep them imprisoned while Schuyler, Akakios and Keres take their place. And once it's time for the big reveal the agarthans turn their prisoners into Demonic Beasts and use them to attack the monastery. Each class will fight one Beast (the Deer will fight Julius, the Lions fight Larissa, the Eagles fight Adora and the knights have to fight Ambrose) without knowing what those beasts even are. They only find out after slaying them. Well, that is of course if you're okay with that happening to the real Adora. Ember and I already decided to do this with Ambrose and Julius and I made Larissa so the Lions will have to fight a friend as well xD I only suggested the Beast thing because Ember kept coming up with stuff to torment her characters and I was like "Stop this at once or I'll come up with something even worse!" xD
Anyway, that's just one of the things we talked about. Some other stuff I still have to explain: - Neason's mission for the Garland Moon - How Tahvo's tribe views crests and thus think he's cursed - Some small subplot that takes place before Elara's paralogue - Ciarra's mission
- probably a few other things
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 13:27:20 GMT -5
I love the title XD I'm dying
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 13:31:25 GMT -5
Thankfully I can just copy-paste it. I'd hate to have to type it all the time and HETTSAPMIEWIaFATSH makes for a pretty shitty acronym xD
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 13:33:24 GMT -5
The OWCA of acronyms
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 13:46:45 GMT -5
So, before I try to write the next part I have some more incorrect quotes to share. Uh... to celebrate Sussuru's return or something xD
Our chaotic Deer
Tahvo: Hey Searc Searc: Grrr… Tahvo: I heard you lost your fight pretty bad. Searc: Hrrrrrgh! Tahvo: But you know what they say, Searc. When you fall off the horse, you get right back up, and you eat that horse! Come eat that horse with me, Searc!! Searc: What the hell are you on about!?!?
Callan: Man, that party was crazy last night. Ciarra: You were very drunk, you scared everyone. Callan: I’m not a lightweight Ciarra, I don’t get drunk. Ciarra: You stuffed Rekka into a pillow case and yelled "It’s a pillow pet!"
Rekka: Gold is the greatest gift of all time. I don’t want to hear none of that it ain’t thoughtful shit. It’s the most thoughtful present. Thank you for thinking I need money, you were right.
Julius: I’m invoking the “No Judgement” clause of our friendship. Searc: Oh my God, what have you done?
Searc: Hey, Julius, can you check my essay for me real quick? It's due tomorrow, and I wanted to get a little feedback before I call it done. Julius: Julius: Searc, this literally just says "kill me" on repeat for three pages straight. Searc: Yeah, I'm trying to put more of my emotions into my writing.
Neason: You’re too violent. Callan: Yeah, but I’m short so it’s adorable.
Philomel: I’m holding an intervention. Neason: Why? Philomel: Because you two’s fighting is getting in the way of everyone working together properly and I’m tired of it. Searc: Tell him to stop being so reckless then. Neason: Tell him to stop being so snarky and mean! Philomel: Time out! Both of you!
Searc: *sees a wanted poster with his name on it* Searc: I’m wanted? That’s a first.
Callan: Oh yeah? Well I got five words for you, buddy! Please Be Nice To Me.
Tahvo: So it turns out the “bad vibes” I’ve been experiencing are actually “severe psychological distress”
Firefighter: I'm from the fire department. Neason: I'm Neason! Firefighter: Yeah, we know who you are.
Neason: I would just like to remind you of how much you adore us. Julius: And how boring your life would be without us. Searc: Searc: What did you do?
Tahvo: I’ve only slept nine hours over the past four days so I’m right on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Tahvo: *bites his beaststone* Tahvo: This isn’t a meatball.
Neason: Hey, guys! Watch me do the "Grouchy Searc"! Searc, distantly: Stop naming moves after me! Neason, imitating Searc: Everyone’s an idiot except for me! Searc: Well, it’s true!
Neason, cleaning out the stables: Is this because I set the training dummies on fire? Searc, not looking up: No. Neason: Set my bedcovers on fire? Searc: No. Neason: Lady Hera's chamber? Rekka's tail? The fishing pond? Searc: No, no, and no! Searc: Searc: Wait. Searc: How did you set fire to a fishing pond? It's full of water! Neason: It was an accident. Searc:
Rekka: You guys! It’s Neason, he’s back! Searc: Well thank the goddess he’s back alive, I’m gonna kill him!
The Lions
Jason: How do you know how to kiss? Like who teaches you? Luca: Well it’s actually a class, but unfortunately it’s full right now. Luca: Would you like me to tutor you? Agnar: That was smooth.
Jason: *accidentally does something illegal* Jason: *calls 911* Hello? I would like to go to jail.
Luca: *holding a hand out* Hey Agnar, wanna dance with a cool guy? Agnar: I’d love to. Where is he?
Luca: I think we should kiss. Imrie: And I think you should die but we don’t always get what we want.
Imrie: Ugh. Here comes the love birds. Agnar: Did you hear them last night? Jason: I don’t know what they were doing but it sounded painful. Larissa: Oh sweet, innocent Jason.
Luca: Have you seen my underwear? Jason: No. Luca: Do you want to?
Agnar: Listen, pretty boy- Luca: You think I’m pretty? Agnar: Well, yeah, but-
Luca: Do you know what I hate doing most after a party? Pierce: Trying to find your underwear in the big pile?
Banker: To open an account I’ll need a first name. Larissa: R-Robin. Banker: And last? Larissa: Dabank. Banker: So, you’re Robin Dabank?
Eagles, Church and some more stuff with the students
Nora: You have got to love knitting needles. I can make a scarf. I can make a hat. I can stab someone’s eyes out. I can make mittens! Elara: What was that middle part? Nora: I can make a hat.
Ambrose: Please don’t make fun of me if I misuse dated cultural references, okay? Are we cowabunga on this? Jasmine: *sighs* Yeah, we’re cowabunga on this.
Ambrose, trying to teach Néo the ABC song: No, no, no. Elemenopee is not one letter. L. M. N. O. P. Get it?
Ambrose: All right, I have jobs for everyone. Néo, you can run the raffle. Néo: I’m your man. Ambrose: Don’t insult the customers. Néo: I’m… kinda your man. Ambrose: And smile. Néo: You need another man.
Ambrose: I’m the cool parent. That’s my thing. Ambrose: I’m hip. I surf the web. I text. Ambrose: LOL. Laugh out loud. OMG. Oh my god. WTF. Why the face. Ambrose: I know all the dances to high school musical, so…
Néo, watching Sesame Street: Blast him! Blast him! Elmo: Ha-ha-ha! Big Bird, just share it with Cookie Monster. Néo: Don’t trust him! He just pretends to eat cookies, but he never swallows anything!
Néo: I never learned how to swim. Jasmine: Never too late to learn. *throws Néo into the fishing pond*
Jasmine: Hey Megumi, I’m writing my autobiography. Do you have any tips? Megumi: Kill off the main character.
Estelle: Awww cute Néo: Don’t ‘awww cute’ me I am a fury that cannot be contained. Estelle: Adorable
Megumi: I’m so gay for Luca. Megumi: By that I mean every time I see him, I get the slightest bit gayer to avoid ever being attracted to that piece of garbage. Megumi: Screw you, Luca.
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 14:35:18 GMT -5
Okay pine you might hate me but...hear me out desai telling searc to clean up his blood after the whole thing, and to not get more blood on the floor then he already did
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 14:38:15 GMT -5
How Ember Traumatized The Students And Pine Made It Even Worse In a Failed Attempt To Stop HerPart 2: Get that romantic and platonic crap outta my face, I wanna bully my worthless son, damn it! So. Garland Moon. Women weaving white rose garlands as gifts for close friends and potential lovers. Also the beginning of the rainy season but still a enjoyable month, right? Sure, unless your name happens to be Searc. Because your father will teach you how to spell "useless". Without wasting ink and paper! Uh... yeah, here's how that went. Just quoting almost the whole thing xD Ember: Also so reading a fanfic from a series I read something happened in it to a character and it's like....what if I did this to searc Pine:Oh? Do tell! Given our track record with how we treat some of our characters this is gonna be good!
Okay, here it is:
So, Ember decided to do the uhm... "word-thing" for the Garland Moon. The mission itself goes well, even Neason isn't as much of an idiot as he usually is. Because he knows his dearest father would punish Searc if anything went wrong. Well, Desai, running for Father of the Year, punishes Searc anyway. His crime? Being better than Neason. And of course he's doing this in front of the whole class. Gotta humiliate his worthless son, right? Oh, and even without that Desai is already super charming: Also, the other students better nor show pity to Searc. He definitely won't like that and he's likely to avoid his classmates for a while after this mission. Well, that's probably the important stuff about the Garland Moon Mission. As for Desai helping out the Agarthans? Aand then things got really crazy when one of us suggested that Rossi and/or Luz (Neason's sisters) could also get a second crest. Still wanna do that, Ember? But use Rossi for this! Leave Luz out of it!
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 14:40:47 GMT -5
What the hell, Ember! ...I love it.
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 14:51:31 GMT -5
XD gotta make sure he's playing to Father of the Year ami right??? I was just lying here trying to take a nap before work since I won't get done till around midnight, and my angst part of the brain goes "what is desai did this" and the normal part of my brain goes "omg I love"
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 15:02:49 GMT -5
No matter what Desai's fate will be, no one will miss him. The Deer will have a huge party, being all like "We put the 'fun' in 'funeral'!"
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 15:11:46 GMT -5
They will only attend the service if there is cake, naw there probably wouldn't even be a service for him,
Party it up deer
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 9, 2022 15:40:44 GMT -5
Yeah, whew, that's intense! But also, these are all amazing story beats and I'm so down. Ember, your mind!
Think I might need to study all this because oh gosh we have a lot of plans and characters and stuff.
Also, I'd like all of your input on something. The way I wrote Adora/Keres' form and the way I was planning to play her was as an actor who gets too deep into her role. Like she starts forgetting what her mission actually is and shows empathy to the other students or lashes out at them in ways that aren't conducive to her 'role'. I've been thinking though that perhaps this isn't the way to go? I don't have any experience with DID or anything similar and, whilst I didn't intend Keres to have a split personality, it kind of comes off that way anyway? I might need to overhaul her character because I don't want to be disrespectful to anyone. Maybe I'm overthinking this but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 15:48:51 GMT -5
How Ember Traumatized The Students And Pine Made It Even Worse In a Failed Attempt To Stop Her - Part 3: How to make yourself an orphan - A Beginner's Guide
Remember how we said in Part 1 that Neason will leave some time after the Ethereal Moon events? Well, this is the mission where he returns. Just shows up out of no where and joins the Deer on as they're in the middle of their mission.
Pegasus Moon with its cold winds and heavy snow. Time to take on some Demonic Beasts again. Three small villages are getting attacked by some monsters. One of them being Ciarra's hometown. Another village is in Adrestia and the third one is in Faerghus, a small town where Néo's parents live. Two things stand out: the Beasts are acting weird and some people of those towns have disappeared. So the Deer set out to take care of the Demonic Beasts in Ciarra's hometown and may or may not investigate a little. Also, Néo will join the Lions as they are fighting beasts in his village.
The beasts attacking the villages were made by agarthans, some of those monsters were some of the disappeared students from past years. Also, no one finds out what these beasts are as the agarthans warp them away before anything gets revealed. Some of the beasts were also some of the disappeared townspeople, including Ciarra's parents. Néo's as well. Neither Néo and Ciarra will know the truth at first, all they know is that some people from their villages disappeared but no signs of them being eaten by the beasts.
...yeah.
Part 4: Pine bullies his wolfboy. I bet he kicks puppies, too!
Around the time I made Tahvo I was wondering something. Since the church doesn't control the information and knowledge outside Fódlan there might be different views on crests in some places. I was wondering that maybe in some towns or villages in the other countries crests could be seen as a curse. Not in all of them, but maybe in more isolated ones, especially if the people who live there are really superstitious. Well, I decided to do that for Tahvo. Give him even more reason to not want to become his tribe's next chieftain.
So yeah, the wolfskin of Vanha tribe think crests are curses. The crest of Louhi is said to make its bearer an outstanding leader but anyone who's close to him will get corrupted by its power. It's not true of course but that's what they believe. So Tahvo will try his best to make himself look imcompetent. He wants to "prove" that his crest doesn't make him a good leader.
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 15:53:58 GMT -5
Sound interesting! I like what you're doing with her. But yeah, now that you mention it it might come across as split personality. I don't have any experience with DID either though so I can't really say if this is disrespectful or not. But like I said, I didn't really think of what Keres does as a split personality thing until you said it. So maybe it's okay?
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 15:55:14 GMT -5
Sussuru if you do need help with did I've actually done research on the disorder as I have an oc with it and wanted to properly be able to depict it : ) Ahhh yes the orphan arc of the ber was unsupervised era
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 9, 2022 16:01:05 GMT -5
That's very kind, Ember, thank you, though I don't really think that's the direction I want to go with her. I don't know. I'll give it a think. When I was writing her, I had a pretty specific idea in mind but now that I'm thinking about it, the character that she was (loosely) inspired by is often interpreted as having a split personality.
If any of you have any ideas on where else I could take her character, I'm all ears ^^
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 16:27:17 GMT -5
Hm. No ideas for her yet. But one thing we need to figure out is who'll she side with. Will she stick with the Agarthans or does she end up betraying them? Ember suggested that Jason will help the surface dwellers in secret and I intend for Akakios to stick with the Agarthans. I guess Schuyler will also remain loyal. But that's for Ember to decide. Anyway, so far only one of the spies will end up helping their enemies.
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 16:32:25 GMT -5
Yea Schuyler remaining loyal, edit: to the other spies/agarathand
And Jason will aid the surface dwellers in secret while liv9ng in a box
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 9, 2022 16:47:46 GMT -5
Hmm. I guess if most of the other spies are going to be loyal to the surface dwellers, Keres ought to stick with the Agarthans so it's a bit more balanced. Originally, I was going to play it by ear depending on how deeply she bonded with the other students but making her a straight up villain is fine too!
Think I'm going to sign off for tonight - eyes are strained and I should by all accounts be avoiding screens. Have a good evening/morning all ^^
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 9, 2022 16:52:18 GMT -5
Well, like we said, Jason's the only one who'll side with the surface dwellers. The other two will remain villains. So if Keres decides to side with the surface dwellers that'd be fine too. We'd have two of each then. But having Jason be the only good agarthan could be fun too.
Okay, good night ^^ I'm logging off too since I still have to work tomorrow.
|
|
Asexual
#cfffe5
star_green.png
Name Colour, Custom Stars
Ember34
Golden Deer Leader
pfp made by sparkscatter
Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them
|
Post by Ember34 on Jun 9, 2022 16:54:26 GMT -5
Sleep well you two
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 10, 2022 5:31:24 GMT -5
Morning (?) all ^^ If you could post or quote some starters I'll see about responding to them. I'll work out where my characters are in reference to yours.
I'll probably have Keres helping out the surface dwellers at some point then.
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 10, 2022 7:37:14 GMT -5
Sure, I can get some starters up. Nothing's happening at Garreg Mach now anyway, Ambrose has picked up some volunteers when everyone was in class. But since the Bandit Bashers (Yes, Ambrose insisted on having a team name) are probably about to meet and fight the small bandit group soon I guess classes have ended just now. So the only people who aren't at the monastery right now are Ambrose, Megumi, Imrie, Agnar, Luca and Callan. Each of them has gotten their professor's permission for this. We've made it so that the Golden Deer had their last lesson in the Greenhouse while the Blue Lions and Black Eagles were in their respective classrooms.
Small question about two of my characters. Since Akakios is gonna cast suspicion on Tahvo, Larissa and Yutaka in one of the later months my two characters (and a nameless Black Eagles npc student because why not) are supposed to arrive later than all the other students. Remember our racist cult? Well, some members from the racist fanatics went against their leader's orders and went out to seek out some of the "outsiders" even before they reach Garreg Mach. Just a small group. That group forced them to take a much longer route by constantly trying to attack them. And if at least one of them made it back alive they could have informed their superiors that Tahvo has a crest and is therefore of no use to them (since it probably would have activated during at least one of their confrontation). I also think that Hera, some high ranking church staff and the professors have been informed that a few students will arrive late. I guess Tahvo, Lara and the BE npc could have sent a message when they realized that their trips would take longer, briefly stating that there was some trouble. It doesn't even have to be a small group of racist fanatics who don't know how to follow orders, it could also be a completely unrelated and unimportant band of more-skilled-than-average-bandits.
The question is how late they are. Maybe they can show up now (or they've arrived the night before) or I can wait until after the mock battle or the first Occult Club adventure.
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 10, 2022 7:58:32 GMT -5
Why does Tahvo having a crest mean he isn't of use to the fanatics? Am I forgetting something or was this decided on later?
I feel like it'd be fun if the new students arrived during the middle of the mock battle as an extra layer of challenge/advantage. Just to shock everyone and level the playing field some haha After all, if they've been fending off bandits and/or fanatics on the road, they'll probably have add to pick up certain skills quicker than the students who arrived earlier. Not to mention the opportunity for expedited team bonding! It's completely up to you though.
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 10, 2022 8:06:41 GMT -5
Hm. Not sure when we have thought of it but one of the things about the cult is that they believe that only people from Fódlan should have crests. They think that the outsiders got theirs through some other means like dark magic. Not a big deal for the human foreigners as the cult still wants their crests for the weird monsters they'll be creating. It's different for the beastkin though. The fanatics want "purebloods" so their creation will be perfect (adding crests after that is totally fine because uh... cultist logic). Well, the fanatics think there's only two ways for a beastkin to have a crest: they got it from a human parent and therefore they're not "true" beastkin or they've been tainted by some dark magic. Either way they don't consider them pure so they don't want to use them.
Oooh, having them show up during the mock battle sounds fun! Haven't thought about that!
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 10, 2022 8:13:17 GMT -5
Aha, I understand. Thank you!
EDIT: I've added birthdays and what not to the front of this thread. Let me know if there are any mistakes ^^ Oh, also. Do we have a date or a couple of days specifically when the Bandit Bashing is going on?
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 10, 2022 8:27:41 GMT -5
Looks good ^^ As for the Bandit Bashers and their assignment, I think it's the 17th (Great Tree Moon of course). Not that it is important enough to list it. The sidequest itself shouldn't take too long either, they'll probably return in the late afternoon or evening. As for any future sidequests, we can probably do them whenever we want. Ambrose will pick different students every time though ^^
|
|
|
Post by Sussuru on Jun 10, 2022 8:30:06 GMT -5
Fair enough! Just trying to get my dates in order. Not sure if we need to add anything else to the schedule?
|
|
Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
|
Post by Pineclaw on Jun 10, 2022 8:36:49 GMT -5
Nothing I can think of right now.
Also, since I'm (slowly) getting some starters up, a quick note about Néo. He hasn't interacted much with the students yet but they probably know he's often working around the monastery. The Lions have also seen him during today's battle practice since he joins the students and the squires for training sometimes. Also, like the students, he's lived at Garreg Mach for a little over two weeks now. But today has been the first time he has joined a class for a training session.
|
|