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Post by Rainsplash on Mar 7, 2021 8:22:37 GMT -5
Alternate mates?
I'd love to tear BrambleSquirrel apart. They just bring out the worst in each other.
BrambleSorrel was pretty cute, but I love BrackenSorrel too much.
BrambleFeather works for me, I'm rereading Midnight and they're good.
BrambleDaisy - Uh, could anyone point out their interactions? Why do people ship it anyways? I don't remember.
StormSquirrel would be pretty cute. It was, really.
AshSquirrel looked like it was happening, and while it looked like it was, it seemed nice. Aaaand came the psychotic murdering things, but.
ShrewSquirrel. I thought I saw interactions last time I read Midnight and Moonlight. Now I can't. This needs interactions to be pointed out - really. But it seems "nice". Anyhow, better than how BrambleSquirrel's flowing.
Feathertail and Reedwhisker.
I've heard LionIce makes sense, and why does it? I mean, it's been like, a hundred years since I read PoT or OotS, so I honestly have no idea what they do. Please, interactions. I like LionCinder, though. If FireCinder shippers don't push it the ship into FireCinder, of course. Then I'm so irked out.
This isn't really "alternate", but I'm really curious on why Foxleap and Hazeltail's a thing. And Hazeltail and Thornclaw/Brambleclaw - why? Why? Does HazelThorn have cute interactions? I learnt about why FoxDove's a thing, and I love it. Did FoxRose have cute interactions? Why's Blossomfall and Mousewhisker being shipped? Any particular reason? Is FoxIvy just because FoxDove's a thing? Did Cherryfall and Stormcloud have any cute interactions?
Enough with the questions, anyway, I'd probably split Violetshine and Tree because... well... y'know. I honestly never thought Violetshine as the motherly type, and VioletTree didn't have enough chemistry. But it's fine now.
Wow, now I see it, I only wanted to fix BrambleSquirrel. Still, BreezeHeather's not good, because I'm still edgy about Breezepelt's dumb "redemption", which's a poor excuse for one. Oh, yeah!
Dove/Tiger should go away 'cause frankly, I'm starting to get annoyed with it - seriously annoyed. Foxleap and Dovewing seem better.
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Post by Mothdapple on Mar 7, 2021 8:38:52 GMT -5
I tend to pair MouseBlossom or ToadBlossom as well as FoxHazel since they are unrelated alternate ships. I also love to pair RoseBumble together. These pairings have no blood relation to each other and if they do have any, it’s very distant. CherryStorm had a really sweet interaction in Bramblestar’s Storm which is why many people want them together. I’m not a fan of ShrewSquirrel, FeatherReed, or DoveFox because of how closely related they are to each other. Squirrelflight’s parents are Firestar and Sandstorm while Shrewpaw’s were Dustpelt and Ferncloud. Dustpelt is Sandstom’s uncle. Also, Ferncloud and Sandstorm are half-siblings. Feathertail and Reedwhisker’s relation is pretty obvious. Feathertail’s parents are Silverstream and Graystripe. Reedwhisker’s are Mistystar and Blackclaw. Mistystar and Silverstream are first cousins. Foxleap is Dovewing’s father Birchfall’s brother, making him her uncle. Since I don’t want the Erins to throw in more incest pairings, I tend to gravitate away from these.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 7, 2021 12:32:09 GMT -5
Squirrelflight x Shrewpaw Dovewing x Foxleap Blossomfall x Toadstep Rosepetal x Bumblestripe Minnowtail x Mousewhisker Daisy x Minty Hazeltail x Thornclaw Icecloud x Lionblaze Lilyheart x Stormcloud Reedwhisker x Dawnflower
Other ships i love: Squirrelflight x Crowfeather Stormfur x Leafpool Bramblestar x Feathertail Briarlight x Dovewing
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Mar 7, 2021 12:54:02 GMT -5
I think StormxSquirrel would have made a good couple. Unlike Brambleclaw and Ashfur, he would support her but also help her calm down. While it would start forbidden, I really wanted to see Stormfur join ThunderClan. He and Feathertail always seemed to be the odd ones out to me in RiverClan. I also think he would have handled the secret a lot better. Hell, I think Squirrelflight would have consulted him because of his background alone. I used to be a big shipper for BramblexSquirrel until I saw how gross it is and how gross Brambleclaw is and that's coming from someone that also used to love his character.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 7, 2021 13:23:54 GMT -5
Firestar x Cinderpelt (would have been great together)
Firestar x Goldenflower (had a sort of relationship that could have become either friendship or romance)
Firestar x Silverstream (could have had an interesting storyline)
Dustpelt x Sandstorm (still ship it - yes, I'm serious)
Tigerstar x Leopardstar (mostly about the aesthetics and the genetics for Mothwing making sense)
Brambleclaw x Leafpool (had some compatibility)
Brambleclaw x Sorreltail (simply cute)
Brambleclaw x Feathertail (could have had potential - and Tigerstar would have been so mad)
Brambleclaw x Daisy (had some good interactions in Bramblestar's Storm and are also great parents)
Brambleclaw x Jingo (more of a crackship but I'm probably just salty that she never shows up again)
Crowfeather x Squirrelflight (they are both hotheaded but in a compelling way)
Thornclaw x Squirrelflight (why? - I don't really know but they look good together)
Jayfeather x Briarlight (this ship is so precious)
Lionblaze x Heathertail (help - I'm hung up on a couple that never even happened)
Lionblaze x Icecloud (it's canon that she had a crush but he was too much of a himbo to notice her)
Lionblaze x Poppyfrost or Honeyfern (sometimes I feel bad for their messy love life and try to resolve it)
Foxleap x Dovewing (he is her uncle but this is nonetheless way better than what we got instead)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 14:35:33 GMT -5
Alternate mates? I'd love to tear BrambleSquirrel apart. They just bring out the worst in each other. BrambleSorrel was pretty cute, but I love BrackenSorrel too much. BrambleFeather works for me, I'm rereading Midnight and they're good. BrambleDaisy - Uh, could anyone point out their interactions? Why do people ship it anyways? I don't remember. StormSquirrel would be pretty cute. It was, really. AshSquirrel looked like it was happening, and while it looked like it was, it seemed nice. Aaaand came the psychotic murdering things, but. ShrewSquirrel. I thought I saw interactions last time I read Midnight and Moonlight. Now I can't. This needs interactions to be pointed out - really. But it seems "nice". Anyhow, better than how BrambleSquirrel's flowing. Feathertail and Reedwhisker. I've heard LionIce makes sense, and why does it? I mean, it's been like, a hundred years since I read PoT or OotS, so I honestly have no idea what they do. Please, interactions. I like LionCinder, though. If FireCinder shippers don't push it the ship into FireCinder, of course. Then I'm so irked out. This isn't really "alternate", but I'm really curious on why Foxleap and Hazeltail's a thing. And Hazeltail and Thornclaw/Brambleclaw - why? Why? Does HazelThorn have cute interactions? I learnt about why FoxDove's a thing, and I love it. Did FoxRose have cute interactions? Why's Blossomfall and Mousewhisker being shipped? Any particular reason? Is FoxIvy just because FoxDove's a thing? Did Cherryfall and Stormcloud have any cute interactions? Enough with the questions, anyway, I'd probably split Violetshine and Tree because... well... y'know. I honestly never thought Violetshine as the motherly type, and VioletTree didn't have enough chemistry. But it's fine now. Wow, now I see it, I only wanted to fix BrambleSquirrel. Still, BreezeHeather's not good, because I'm still edgy about Breezepelt's dumb "redemption", which's a poor excuse for one. Oh, yeah! Dove/Tiger should go away 'cause frankly, I'm starting to get annoyed with it - seriously annoyed. Foxleap and Dovewing seem better. (I also think bramble x daisy makes no sense at all lol)
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Mar 7, 2021 15:08:11 GMT -5
Squirrelflight x Shrewpaw (i name him shrewskip in my AU's) Squirrelflight x Spiderleg (he's closer to her age)
Brambleclaw x Daisy (protective and patient brambleclaw helping daisy...idk why they had that drama about cloudtail doing it but he's not single so brightheart took it the wrong way. would be better if brambleclaw did it instead since he's single) Brambleclaw x Sorreltail (my #1 bramble pairing. they should have happened instead) Brambleclaw x Feathertail (mature and cool cats together! yes)
Thornclaw x Jessy (in an AU where Jessy is older and an already established loner who ran from her owners years ago)
leafpool x reedwhisker (instead of leafxcrow, reed develops a crush on her because she saved him in TNP; a swapped repeat of grayxsilver) leafpool x hawkfrost (an AU where hawkfrost uses mothwing's friendship with leafpool against her and uses that to manipulate leafpool to help brambleclaw in thunderclan maybe) leafpool x rainwhisker (just bc i like rainwhisker)
lionblaze x honeyfern (drama with berrynose maybe? lol) lionblaze x icecloud (i also like this one too)
Blossomfall x Mousewhisker (this should have happened 100%...i will never forgive them for making the mistake and making it thornclaw instead!)
here's just a ship i ship that isn't really alternate:
foxleap x hazeltail
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Mar 7, 2021 15:12:53 GMT -5
Alternate mates? I'd love to tear BrambleSquirrel apart. They just bring out the worst in each other. BrambleSorrel was pretty cute, but I love BrackenSorrel too much. BrambleFeather works for me, I'm rereading Midnight and they're good. BrambleDaisy - Uh, could anyone point out their interactions? Why do people ship it anyways? I don't remember. StormSquirrel would be pretty cute. It was, really. AshSquirrel looked like it was happening, and while it looked like it was, it seemed nice. Aaaand came the psychotic murdering things, but. ShrewSquirrel. I thought I saw interactions last time I read Midnight and Moonlight. Now I can't. This needs interactions to be pointed out - really. But it seems "nice". Anyhow, better than how BrambleSquirrel's flowing. Feathertail and Reedwhisker. I've heard LionIce makes sense, and why does it? I mean, it's been like, a hundred years since I read PoT or OotS, so I honestly have no idea what they do. Please, interactions. I like LionCinder, though. If FireCinder shippers don't push it the ship into FireCinder, of course. Then I'm so irked out. This isn't really "alternate", but I'm really curious on why Foxleap and Hazeltail's a thing. And Hazeltail and Thornclaw/Brambleclaw - why? Why? Does HazelThorn have cute interactions? I learnt about why FoxDove's a thing, and I love it. Did FoxRose have cute interactions? Why's Blossomfall and Mousewhisker being shipped? Any particular reason? Is FoxIvy just because FoxDove's a thing? Did Cherryfall and Stormcloud have any cute interactions? Enough with the questions, anyway, I'd probably split Violetshine and Tree because... well... y'know. I honestly never thought Violetshine as the motherly type, and VioletTree didn't have enough chemistry. But it's fine now. Wow, now I see it, I only wanted to fix BrambleSquirrel. Still, BreezeHeather's not good, because I'm still edgy about Breezepelt's dumb "redemption", which's a poor excuse for one. Oh, yeah! Dove/Tiger should go away 'cause frankly, I'm starting to get annoyed with it - seriously annoyed. Foxleap and Dovewing seem better. fox and rose interacted a lot and a POV chapter even wondered if they liked each other (i forgot who it was in oots?). but then the writers turned into hypocrites and dropped fox and rose together because fans reminded them they're uncle and neice (which makes no sense bc dust x fern is uncle and neice too but they still did it back then, and then in the future, they'd continue to do incest pairings...so idk why this one time was an "issue" to them lol they just forgot i guess) and i ship fox and hazel because i drew human fan art of them together once. foxleap is energetic and outgoing and i view hazeltail as stoic and calm, and i just like ships that have this dynamic between them. blossomfall and mousewhisker were the ones playing together in oots, not thornclaw, but then they edited it out to replace him with thornclaw, which is why we have blossomxthorn in present day...blossomxmouse should have hapened instead (mouse is closer to her age AND he's nicer than thornclaw...plus, thornclaw didnt need his own kits...both brackenfur and brightheart carried the family line and he didnt need to join them in spreading DNA...) cherryfall and stormcloud had a cute moment in bramblestar's storm which is why people want them together so badly...but too bad the writers just forgot stormcloud existed...it's a shame.
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Post by Brindlefern on Mar 7, 2021 16:36:14 GMT -5
People forgot that Brambleclaw originally didn't want Daisy there as he was being xenophobic about kittypets and got backlash from cats like Cloudtail (I think Squirrelflight too? Since she's technically half-clan blood through her kittypet-blooded father) for that and as far as I remember there's nothing notable to them after that. Imo it's a complete crackship. :U
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 7, 2021 16:43:29 GMT -5
People forgot that Brambleclaw originally didn't want Daisy there as he was being xenophobic about kittypets and got backlash from cats like Cloudtail (I think Squirrelflight too? Since she's technically half-clan blood through her kittypet-blooded father) for that and as far as I remember there's nothing notable to them after that. Imo it's a complete crackship. :U Adding into this, the way he treated her kits was kind of annoying. He only wanted them and Daisy as a chance to become deputy. Gross. I don't know why is that a ship.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 7, 2021 16:44:43 GMT -5
People forgot that Brambleclaw originally didn't want Daisy there as he was being xenophobic about kittypets and got backlash from cats like Cloudtail (I think Squirrelflight too?) for that and as far as I remember there's nothing notable to them after that. Imo it's a complete crackship. :U Bramblestar has a few scenes with just Daisy afterwards, particularly in BrS when they're visiting Smoky and Coriander, but other than that, I don't see the appeal. Obviously he came to appreciate her and other outsiders later on, but at least as far as TNP was concerned, he only cared about her kits at best (and even then, it was mostly because he wanted an apprentice) and looked down on her at worst.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Mar 7, 2021 17:15:53 GMT -5
Blossomfall x Toadstep, Blossomfall x Stormcloud, Blossomfall x Fernsong - The first two pairings would introduce new blood, while the latter recreates the dynamic of "tough girlfriend and sweetheart boyfriend" without the issues with IvyFern.
Breezepelt x Sunstrike - They're both WindClanners and trained in the Dark Forest at the exact same time.
Ferncloud x Sootfur or Ferncloud x Rainwhisker - These could have worked, but then they retroactively became even more incestous than DustFern when we learned that Whitestorm is also Ferncloud's dad (which I'm not a big fan of, but canon is canon). Needless to say, I don't want to pair half-siblings with one another.
Tornear x Runningbrook(?) - She was his apprentice and I hate mentor/apprentice pairs, but there were literally no she-cats in WindClan at the time that he could have been with except her. Anyways, I just like the idea of Nightcloud being Tornear's daughter and Mudclaw's niece.
Mudclaw x Morningflower - Because Gorsepaw would have been Mudclaw's son. Think about it - what if Mudclaw became so militant and tough because he wasn't able to protect what mattered the most to him? And what if he held a grudge against Onewhisker because he failed to keep Gorsepaw safe from harm? What if he was suspicious of ThunderClan because his son was killed by a former ThunderClanner? It just adds some depth to him, imo.
Blazefire x Pouncestep or Blazefire x Lightleap - It would be cute for Spiresight's protege to get with one of Tigerheartstar's daughters. And unlike the other pairs here, either of these could still happen!
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 7, 2021 17:24:08 GMT -5
People forgot that Brambleclaw originally didn't want Daisy there as he was being xenophobic about kittypets and got backlash from cats like Cloudtail (I think Squirrelflight too?) for that and as far as I remember there's nothing notable to them after that. Imo it's a complete crackship. :U Bramblestar has a few scenes with just Daisy afterwards, particularly in BrS when they're visiting Smoky and Coriander, but other than that, I don't see the appeal. Obviously he came to appreciate her and other outsiders later on, but at least as far as TNP was concerned, he only cared about her kits at best (and even then, it was mostly because he wanted an apprentice) and looked down on her at worst. While it is true that Brambleclaw was indeed acting xenophobic towards Daisy in Twilight, he seemed to have sympathy for her by the next book: "Her eyes, fixed on Cloudtail, were huge with sorrow. Understanding struck Brambleclaw like a flash of lightning. She was in love with the white warrior! And she must know that there would never be any cat for him but Brightheart. He let out a purr of sympathy. Perhaps Daisy was right to leave. It must hurt to see Cloudtail every day and know he would never be more than a friend." ―Brambleclaw's narration Sunset, page 192 Then there is also the fact that Brambleclaw's outburst happened while we did not get his perspective on the matter and are thus unaware of what his thought process was at the time. Granted, perhaps that might not even be necessary but it is obvious that his opinion of Daisy has changed for the better: "It's too easy to forget what she does for our kits in the nursery, he thought. He remembered Ferncloud's words when she gave him one of his nine lives. She had warned him never to underestimate the cats who provided the Clan with its new members, and helped to raise them. And she was right. Daisy deserves as much honor and respect as any warrior." ―Bramblestar's thoughts about Daisy Bramblestar's Storm, page 64 I do agree however that the only reason he tried to get along with her kits during TNP was because he needed an apprentice to become deputy but that mindset was also fueled by his father and half-brother who urged him on.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Mar 7, 2021 17:51:37 GMT -5
Squirrelcrow squirrelcrow
with bramblepool
bramble squirrel fake being mates to raise both litters together
hollyleaf is a ghost tabby
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Asexual
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 7, 2021 19:05:15 GMT -5
SquirrelCrow! I think it would be interesting to see how a romantic relationship with them would work out.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 7, 2021 21:56:20 GMT -5
Bramblestar has a few scenes with just Daisy afterwards, particularly in BrS when they're visiting Smoky and Coriander, but other than that, I don't see the appeal. Obviously he came to appreciate her and other outsiders later on, but at least as far as TNP was concerned, he only cared about her kits at best (and even then, it was mostly because he wanted an apprentice) and looked down on her at worst. While it is true that Brambleclaw was indeed acting xenophobic towards Daisy in Twilight, he seemed to have sympathy for her by the next book: "Her eyes, fixed on Cloudtail, were huge with sorrow. Understanding struck Brambleclaw like a flash of lightning. She was in love with the white warrior! And she must know that there would never be any cat for him but Brightheart. He let out a purr of sympathy. Perhaps Daisy was right to leave. It must hurt to see Cloudtail every day and know he would never be more than a friend." ―Brambleclaw's narration Sunset, page 192 Then there is also the fact that Brambleclaw's outburst happened while we did not get his perspective on the matter and are thus unaware of what his thought process was at the time. Granted, perhaps that might not even be necessary but it is obvious that his opinion of Daisy has changed for the better: "It's too easy to forget what she does for our kits in the nursery, he thought. He remembered Ferncloud's words when she gave him one of his nine lives. She had warned him never to underestimate the cats who provided the Clan with its new members, and helped to raise them. And she was right. Daisy deserves as much honor and respect as any warrior." ―Bramblestar's thoughts about Daisy Bramblestar's Storm, page 64 I do agree however that the only reason he tried to get along with her kits during TNP was because he needed an apprentice to become deputy but that mindset was also fueled by his father and half-brother who urged him on. Also adding to this, Clan cats in general are xenophobic, it's normal to them, it's part of their everyday life, as much as people don't like it or want to accept it, its bound to happen. So it makes sense for Bramblestar to think that way in Twilight, even Cloudtail himself, the cat she was in love with, had the same mindset, and mostly wanted Daisy to stay because of her kits. It makes no sense to zero in on only Bramblestar in this situation when other cats were doing the same, constantly. And just because they do do this, doesn't mean a character can't learn from their mistakes and grow to appreciate another character, and even possibly develop feelings for them. As much as I don't care for FireSand, they're a prime example of this. While Milkweed x Leaf, a pairing I do prefer, is another example. It's not unheard of for Cat A to be xenophobic toward Cat B, but then Cat A realizes they were wrong and comes to appreciate Cat B, and vice versa. If anything it's a common trope in Warriors. And to clarify, the idea of BrambleDaisy only comes from AFTER he breaks up with Squirrelflight, and WHILE Daisy is single after breaking up with Spiderleg. It's based off an AU where BrambleSquirrel doesn't get back together, and Daisy and Bramble share similar pain and understanding over their past relationships and console one another. In BrS, Daisy and Bramble had quite a few scenes with one another, and get along fine, Bramble respects and even admires Daisy, and the same can be said vice versa. The pairing itself is more of a "what if" or alternative in general, where maybe instead of Bramble being interested in some random cat like Jessy, it is instead him and Daisy slowly becoming a thing. Both of them are amazing parents, and obviously just want the bare minimum of their partners, which makes them both patient. Bramble wants a partner he can trust, while Daisy wants one that is loyal, so honestly these two would probably work out just fine.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 7, 2021 22:23:12 GMT -5
Mudclaw x Nightcloud Ashfur x Whitewing Bramblestar x Daisy Foxleap x Dovewing Firestar x Cinderpelt Thornclaw x Minty Bumblestripe x Cherryfall Sparkpelt x Molewhisker Leafstar x Macgyver Cinderheart x Hollyleaf Toadstep x Blossomfall Lionblaze x Icecloud Sandstorm x Dustpelt Shrewclaw x Reena Leafpool x Stormfur Swiftpaw x Brightheart Gray Wing x Riverstar Hawkwing x Plumwillow Clear Sky x Petal Sun Shadow x Moth Flight Shattered Ice x Dappled Pelt Mapleshade x Myler
Ships I'd keep in canon: Feathertail x Crowfeather Honeyfern x Berrynose Alderheart x Velvet
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Post by barley on Mar 8, 2021 16:42:35 GMT -5
Hmm. I don’t really think I can see Fireheart with anyone else...there aren’t much cats his age I really see him getting along with romantically. I don’t think a forbidden romance would go well with his story.
Stormfur- I like Storm/Tawny. They both seem levelheaded and were kind of the third wheels for their siblings. I still like Rowan/Tawny, but Stormfur and Tawnypelt having a short, drama-less relationship would be nice.
Squirrelflight- I like her and Leafstar. She and Bramblestar don't get back together in Bramblestar's Storm, and she becomes close with Leafstar during TBC and they become mates.
Leafpool- Aside from Mothwing, I really thought LeafCody was cute.
I don't really have any for PO3, I'm not invested in Lionblaze's romance to really care..but I think Hazeltail and Hollyleaf would be cute together.
Dovewing - I think Dovewing having a relationship with a kittypet would be nice. Drama free fun with a relaxing kittypet girlfriend. It would give her a place to destress.
Rootspring - I like Rootspring and Wrenpaw
Bristlefrost - I have no idea. I guess Spotfur? In a universe where they weren't so closely related.
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