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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 12:58:01 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on this lovely daughter of Tigerstar and Goldenflower? What do you like and dislike about her and if you could change anything about her character or her role in the series what would it be?
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Feb 25, 2021 13:18:10 GMT -5
I like Tawnypelt. I wish we could have seen more of her adapting to ShadowClan and her relationship with Rowanclaw. She's not afraid to stand up for what she believes is right. A small part of me wishes she could have been the leader of ShadowClan, but she's well-advanced in her age, just like Bramblestar.
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Post by Dɾҽαɱƈʅσυԃ on Feb 25, 2021 14:55:18 GMT -5
I like how Tawnypelt was determined to choose her own fate and didn't want anything to do with her father's legacy. What I dislike about her is the fact that her running away from ThunderClan was based on how she was looked down upon by her former Clanmates for her heritage while her brother had the same misfortune and also happened to look exactly like Tigerstar which is either another case of bad writing or Bramblestar was just more resilient than her in that aspect. Another example of this would be denouncing her father but naming her son after him one arc later. Which could have been out of nostalgia or her subtly showing that she did look up to him in some way or other.
I'm also still a bit sad about the fact that Tawnypelt didn't become a leader of ShadowClan as I would have liked to see her in that role and what she could have achieved with it. In the end I feel like Tawnypelt and her siblings Bramblestar, Hawkfrost, Mothwing and TADPOLE were wasted potential and should have had more thought-out storylines.
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Post by cable on Feb 25, 2021 15:35:54 GMT -5
i really do not like her. running away to join her father, who she knows is a murdering, traitorous tyrant, and then saying shes happy in shadowclan, when the only version of shadowclan she had known up until that point was the one that tortured and killed halfclan cats? like, jesus.
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Post by ratman on Feb 25, 2021 16:06:41 GMT -5
i really do not like her. running away to join her father, who she knows is a murdering, traitorous tyrant, and then saying shes happy in shadowclan, when the only version of shadowclan she had known up until that point was the one that tortured and killed halfclan cats? like, jesus. where else was she gonna go? she wasnt happy in the least in thunderclan, and while shes obviously aware of how her father was, knew that he would accept her. its not like she could waltz into one of the other clans, and being a rogue/loner is a difficult life and one that she likely didnt even want, and even after tigerstar died and (from memory) firestar offered her the chocie to return, she was loyal to shadowclan and stayed. |
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Post by cable on Feb 25, 2021 16:15:18 GMT -5
i really do not like her. running away to join her father, who she knows is a murdering, traitorous tyrant, and then saying shes happy in shadowclan, when the only version of shadowclan she had known up until that point was the one that tortured and killed halfclan cats? like, jesus. where else was she gonna go? she wasnt happy in the least in thunderclan, and while shes obviously aware of how her father was, knew that he would accept her. its not like she could waltz into one of the other clans, and being a rogue/loner is a difficult life and one that she likely didnt even want, and even after tigerstar died and (from memory) firestar offered her the chocie to return, she was loyal to shadowclan and stayed. i mean to be frank anything would have been better than joining the evil tyrant. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ like.... yes, her life was hard, but i lose sympathy when she joins arguably the worst possible option (given many shadowclan cats also didnt trust her and she would be judged for clan-hopping and being tigerkin) |
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Feb 25, 2021 16:21:24 GMT -5
I with cable for the running away thing. However, I'm pretty neutral on Tawnypelt. |
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Post by cable on Feb 25, 2021 16:24:14 GMT -5
I with cable for the running away thing. However, I'm pretty neutral on Tawnypelt. like... the way thunderclan treated her was atrocious, and the burden of proving her worth should never have been placed on her. but, quite frankly, i feel like nobody reasonable would ever find happiness in running away to tigerstars shadowclan, which takes in attempted kit-murderers and starves and kills half-clan cats. |
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Feb 25, 2021 16:28:07 GMT -5
I with cable for the running away thing. However, I'm pretty neutral on Tawnypelt. like... the way thunderclan treated her was atrocious, and the burden of proving her worth should never have been placed on her. but, quite frankly, i feel like nobody reasonable would ever find happiness in running away to tigerstars shadowclan, which takes in attempted kit-murderers and starves and kills half-clan cats. Exactly. Like, I don't get why she thought that was the better option? She was aware of the cat her father was, I believe. |
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 25, 2021 16:28:44 GMT -5
ngl, i agree with cable about the running away bit too...it's unavoidable to compare her to bramblepaw...bramblepaw was judged for his LOOKS, which is way more harsh than tawnypaw being judged only for one thing in comparison. bramblepaw was able to rise above it and become a good warrior in thunderclan, and proved everyone wrong, especially fireheart. so why couldn't tawnypaw do the same? i will always have this argument because i also just hate that she thought going to shadowclan was the right answer at all...she knows what her dad did, and instead of sticking with her mom and brother, she ditches them to join her obviously evil dad...? makes no sense to this day. outside of that part though, i dont like tawnypelt. she wasn't that compelling in TNP, and then she was given a mate as a consolation prize...i never liked her as deputy either. her over defensiveness of rowanstar/claw makes me angry because i hate rowanstar a lot and i hate how she mindlessly defended him, even smacking poor scorchfur over it. scorchfur was right to criticize and tawnypelt just couldnt handle it...showing she sucks as deputy and clanmate imo. |
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Post by cable on Feb 25, 2021 16:31:39 GMT -5
even smacking poor scorchfur over it. scorchfur was right to criticize and tawnypelt just couldnt handle it...showing she sucks as deputy and clanmate imo. to be fair wasnt scorchfur praising darktail in that scene? the guy who had killed a lot of tawnypelts family and nearly destroyed the clans? i wouldve smacked him too for that. then again, i find scorchfur unbearable under most circumstances, so... |
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 25, 2021 16:33:24 GMT -5
even smacking poor scorchfur over it. scorchfur was right to criticize and tawnypelt just couldnt handle it...showing she sucks as deputy and clanmate imo. to be fair wasnt scorchfur praising darktail in that scene? the guy who had killed a lot of tawnypelts family and nearly destroyed the clans? i wouldve smacked him too for that. then again, i find scorchfur unbearable under most circumstances, so...imma use the cop out answer of "violence is never the solution" lol i find it interesting to defend scorchfur for that scene because majority of people hate him way too much |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 25, 2021 16:39:57 GMT -5
I like her. I don't blame her for leaving.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 25, 2021 16:46:33 GMT -5
even smacking poor scorchfur over it. scorchfur was right to criticize and tawnypelt just couldnt handle it...showing she sucks as deputy and clanmate imo. to be fair wasnt scorchfur praising darktail in that scene? the guy who had killed a lot of tawnypelts family and nearly destroyed the clans? i wouldve smacked him too for that. then again, i find scorchfur unbearable under most circumstances, so...The thing with Scorchfur is that he's never pleased. He feels sorry for a bit, and then goes back to being horrid not long after. Tawnypelt could've used some restraint, but considering the circumstances, I really don't blame her, either. There's having an opinion and then there's this. Imagine if someone said the things he said about Tigerclaw. And it's even more disturbing once you remember that one of Scorchfur's own daughters was also one of Darktail's drowned victims (he didn't know it at the time, but still). |
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Feb 25, 2021 18:19:28 GMT -5
Oh boy here we go again
I'm neutral on Tawnypelt. She's just... there for me. She exists.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Feb 25, 2021 19:25:33 GMT -5
I like the version of Tawnypelt that childhood-me interpreted her as: a morally-gray badass who doesn't take anything from anyone.
As for how Tawnypelt actually is as a character... she's okay. I liked her novella and I like her in TBC, but she doesn't have much of a defined character from TNP-OOTS. TNP was the perfect opportunity to have Tawnypelt reflect on her decision to join Tigerstar, as two of his would-be victims were on the journey with her; but for some reason, neither Feathertail nor Stormfur said anything about this.
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Post by Fireleap on Feb 25, 2021 22:41:29 GMT -5
I don't like Tawnypelt. She was just kinda boring for most of the books, and her novella is one of the worst Warriors books I've ever read.
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Post by Moonblazer on Feb 25, 2021 23:04:11 GMT -5
I love her and I’m glad she left Thunderclan and became a loyal Shadowclan cat and found contentment there. I could care less if she knew who her father was as a cat, she made her choice and didn’t go back on it after she made it. She had a good family and is content now where she is. Good for her!
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Post by Rainsplash on Feb 26, 2021 8:40:25 GMT -5
I never really got the reason for her leaving. There's her brother, who seemed to be more hurt about the Clan's prejudices. Her brother, who resembled Tigerstar more. Tawnypelt originally was Goldenflower's design. She didn't seem very bothered. Why'd she join an evil tyrant when she didn't want to be prejudiced by it? Was it the "Yes you won't believe me? Then I won't try I really WILL do that" logic?
She's overrated, though. Everyone loves her for no real reason, I think. I'm sure there are plenty of people with valid reasons, but she's overrated. What did she do to deserve your love, affection, and worshipping? Her bold moves? They were respectable, I guess, and brave, but what else? She's a background character, and that's why she has nothing that bugs you - she has no flaws because she doesn't need to be developed. She's just a handy ShadowClan cat that can be used when ShadowClan needs to be friendly.
I'm neutral, leaning towards like. She's pretty cute. I'm rereading A Dangerous Path now, and she's really adorable.
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Post by mean and green on Feb 26, 2021 9:30:54 GMT -5
I don't think kids deserve to be bullied because of who their parents were. Both Bramblepaw and Tawnypaw did not deserve the treatment that they received in ThunderClan JUST because of who their father was. However, not everyone handles things the same manners. Just because Bramblepaw could "toughen" it out and endure the judgements doesn't mean that Tawnypaw can- it is like expecting you to have the same tolerance for bullying.
Also I really don't like how people are kinda implying that because Bramblepaw looked more like his father and he got the worst treatment means that Tawnypaw is not allowed to feel upset or angry about her own treatment so she should just suck it up. I'm glad she left for ShadowClan. She doesn't deserve to be treated like that in her own birth clan and sought out her own place instead.
Tawnypaw, again, was also basically a kid during this time and obviously she's not going to be thinking of the most rational decision of "Should I stay here and hope it gets better?" when she was already enduring the judgment from her own clanmates. Tawynpelt isn't even my favorite cat yet I think she deserves to go somewhere where she did not have to bother with this.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Feb 26, 2021 12:06:56 GMT -5
Tawnypelt and Brambleclaw appear to be smart and good warriors, but then they make the decision of joining their dad in different ways, and among other things. I like her prefix and design, same with Brambleclaw, but that's about it. |
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Feb 26, 2021 19:18:50 GMT -5
I love her
The idea that she should have put up with unfair treatment because her brother did is ridiculous. Just because he was willing to prove himself over and over again didn't mean she should have. Besides, she was an apprentice at the time and not an adult.
And at least Tawny LEARNED what her dad was and rejected him in the DF, while Bramble - who was a FULL GROWN WARRIOR - joins his dad for training in the DF.
She's loyal to her family, her clan, and I love her spunk. I think she was justified in running away, especially since she likely didn't understand the full scope of her father's crimes as a child.
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