#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Mothwing?
Feb 23, 2021 19:11:41 GMT -5
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Post by Featherstar on Feb 23, 2021 19:11:41 GMT -5
What are you thoughts on Mothwing? I'm generally fine with (dispite her being Tigerstar 1's daughter) Mothwing. I feel like I can get her. I understand her not believing in StarClan.
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Post by cable on Feb 23, 2021 19:18:25 GMT -5
probably the most interesting of the first gen tigerkin when you give her character more thought. tho i guess thats not hard when ur competition is hawkfrost and tawnypelt. shes good.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Mothwing?
Feb 23, 2021 19:20:33 GMT -5
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Post by Featherstar on Feb 23, 2021 19:20:33 GMT -5
probably the most interesting of the first gen tigerkin when you give her character more thought. tho i guess thats not hard when ur competition is hawkfrost and tawnypelt. shes good. Don't forget Bramblestar.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Mothwing?
Feb 23, 2021 19:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by Featherstar on Feb 23, 2021 19:20:48 GMT -5
probably the most interesting of the first gen tigerkin when you give her character more thought. tho i guess thats not hard when ur competition is hawkfrost and tawnypelt. shes good. Don't forget Bramblestar. And Mothwing's forgotten brother, Tadpole
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Aromantic
Altair
2020 never existed
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Post by Altair on Feb 23, 2021 19:43:41 GMT -5
like others have said you're automatically good when everybody else sucks
Haven't gotten to the Darkness Within yet so IDK maybe my opinions will change...
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 23, 2021 20:37:52 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion but she's fine in the Broken Code. Yes, she's a bit of a jerk to Shadowsight, but Jayfeather has just as horrible manners and it's not exactly uncommon with doctors anyway. Given Shadowsight is in fact responsible for everything that's happened this arc, I can understand her keeping him at a distance.
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Post by Hollyfall on Feb 23, 2021 21:08:52 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion but she's fine in the Broken Code. Yes, she's a bit of a jerk to Shadowsight, but Jayfeather has just as horrible manners and it's not exactly uncommon with doctors anyway. Given Shadowsight is in fact responsible for everything that's happened this arc, I can understand her keeping him at a distance. Agreed. She could have been nicer to Shadowsight, sure, but I can understand wanting him to train a bit more. Especially considering he got his name (and got it early too, did he not?) only because he "cured" Bramblestar, but all that was a lie from Ashfur who only used Shadowsight as a pawn due to his inexperience as a medicine cat. Besides, considering the messages Shadowsight got were from what he believed to be StarClan, I think Mothwing's reaction is understandable given her own perspective on StarClan as a whole.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Feb 23, 2021 21:27:12 GMT -5
I liked Mothwing before TBC- her character arc was interesting, being an atheist and all in a sect of very religious cats. Plus how she came to be that way was even more interesting. Plus she was likable enough for me. And I still like her in TBC. She could have treated Shadowsight a little nicer, as he's still quite young, but I like how she didn't coddle him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 22:55:49 GMT -5
I Lovewing Mothwing
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Aroace
#ffa100
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 24, 2021 11:46:52 GMT -5
I still like Mothwing.
Even Post-DW Mothwing, as her situation makes the way she behaves in that book kind of understandable. She was always self conscious about her lack of belief regarding StarClan and also has no other family left in RiverClan while the relationship towards her half-siblings Bramblestar and Tawnypelt seems rather non-existent. I'm sure that she didn't truly want to treat Shadowsight the way she did but her current state of mind is just about done with everyone and everything. Hopefully she won't be turned into a real antagonist in this still ongoing arc and instead will have an apology scene in TPoNS and then just be back to being rational Mothwing again.
The only thing I dislike about her is the fact that she for a time was written to not believe in the existence of StarClan despite there being fighting spirits around and her long dead brother padding up right in front of her, during the events of TLH/MS. It seems so pointless for a character to be portayed as not believing in a religion when said religion contantly shows up in the world in which that character lives in. Other than that I like both Mothwing and Cloudtail as atheists but only if they are not made out to be foolish because their non-belief contradicts the evidence in the overall story.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 24, 2021 11:52:30 GMT -5
I still like Mothwing. Even Post-DW Mothwing, as her situation makes the way she behaves in that book kind of understandable. She was always self conscious about her lack of belief regarding StarClan and also has no other family left in RiverClan while the relationship towards her half-siblings Bramblestar and Tawnypelt seems rather non-existent. I'm sure that she didn't truly want to treat Shadowsight the way she did but her current state of mind is just about done with everyone and everything. Hopefully she won't be turned into a real antagonist in this still ongoing arc and instead will have an apology scene in TPoNS and then just be back to being rational Mothwing again. The only thing I dislike about her is the fact that she for a time was written to not believe in the existence of StarClan despite there being fighting spirits around and her long dead brother padding up right in front of her, during the events of TLH/MS. It seems so pointless for a character to be portayed as not believing in a religion when said religion contantly shows up in the world in which that character lives in. Other than that I like both Mothwing and Cloudtail as atheists but only if they are not made out to be foolish because their non-belief contradicts the evidence in the overall story. Her latest novella and TBC make it clear now that she does believe in them after The Last Hope, so thankfully she's not an idiot these days.
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 24, 2021 12:10:57 GMT -5
I still like Mothwing. Even Post-DW Mothwing, as her situation makes the way she behaves in that book kind of understandable. She was always self conscious about her lack of belief regarding StarClan and also has no other family left in RiverClan while the relationship towards her half-siblings Bramblestar and Tawnypelt seems rather non-existent. I'm sure that she didn't truly want to treat Shadowsight the way she did but her current state of mind is just about done with everyone and everything. Hopefully she won't be turned into a real antagonist in this still ongoing arc and instead will have an apology scene in TPoNS and then just be back to being rational Mothwing again. The only thing I dislike about her is the fact that she for a time was written to not believe in the existence of StarClan despite there being fighting spirits around and her long dead brother padding up right in front of her, during the events of TLH/MS. It seems so pointless for a character to be portayed as not believing in a religion when said religion contantly shows up in the world in which that character lives in. Other than that I like both Mothwing and Cloudtail as atheists but only if they are not made out to be foolish because their non-belief contradicts the evidence in the overall story. Her latest novella and TBC make it clear now that she does believe in them after The Last Hope, so thankfully she's not an idiot these days. And I'm very glad for that as atheist characters like her don't really stand a chance against a rather obvious religion like StarClan is in the Warriors series. Sometimes I wish that they would go back to being more obscure like in the first arc. Those were the days...*sigh*
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Post by cable on Feb 24, 2021 13:53:55 GMT -5
The only thing I dislike about her is the fact that she for a time was written to not believe in the existence of StarClan despite there being fighting spirits around and her long dead brother padding up right in front of her, during the events of TLH/MS. It seems so pointless for a character to be portayed as not believing in a religion when said religion contantly shows up in the world in which that character lives in. Other than that I like both Mothwing and Cloudtail as atheists but only if they are not made out to be foolish because their non-belief contradicts the evidence in the overall story. ive always imagined it wasnt a logical thought process for her, but blatant denial. her brother used starclan to manipulate her for a long time, something that could have been traumatic for her, and she could have been point-blank refusing to belive in starclan in response. its only recently that shes finally recovered enough to accept that they at least exist. its headcanon, but it would explain why she denied starclans existence despite such obvious evidence.
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 24, 2021 14:06:24 GMT -5
The only thing I dislike about her is the fact that she for a time was written to not believe in the existence of StarClan despite there being fighting spirits around and her long dead brother padding up right in front of her, during the events of TLH/MS. It seems so pointless for a character to be portayed as not believing in a religion when said religion contantly shows up in the world in which that character lives in. Other than that I like both Mothwing and Cloudtail as atheists but only if they are not made out to be foolish because their non-belief contradicts the evidence in the overall story. ive always imagined it wasnt a logical thought process for her, but blatant denial. her brother used starclan to manipulate her for a long time, something that could have been traumatic for her, and she could have been point-blank refusing to belive in starclan in response. its only recently that shes finally recovered enough to accept that they at least exist. its headcanon, but it would explain why she denied starclans existence despite such obvious evidence. That could be a valid reason. Or it was just bad writing because the authors realized how atheism doesn't really work in the Warriors series except for the cats that never even come in contact with Clan culture and subsequently StarClan. Another example of religion would be The Sisters but they can literally contact ghosts so I'm sure there aren't any atheists to be found either.
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Post by Fireleap on Feb 24, 2021 14:20:30 GMT -5
Haven't finished #3 and #4 of TBC, but I really like her. One of my favorite characters.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 24, 2021 15:07:01 GMT -5
I didn't care for her pre-TBC but I do like her now. It's enjoyable to see her finally have enough of the Clans and their bullcrap, especially toward Mistystar.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Feb 24, 2021 17:05:01 GMT -5
I was fine with her before The Broken Code, but I don't like her now. At all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 17:08:59 GMT -5
I hate her. For not believing in starclan. but I like her decision in the broken code tbh
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Feb 24, 2021 17:19:21 GMT -5
I have had neutral feelings about her before DW. I think that she is very rude to Shadowsight though.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 24, 2021 17:32:13 GMT -5
She's okay.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Name Colour
Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Feb 24, 2021 18:17:37 GMT -5
I hate her. For not believing in starclan. but I like her decision in the broken code tbh Out of curiosity, why do you hate Mothwing because she doesn't believe in StarClan?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 18:52:40 GMT -5
I hate her. For not believing in starclan. but I like her decision in the broken code tbh Out of curiosity, why do you hate Mothwing because she doesn't believe in StarClan? Tbh, she annoyed me when she found out her brother faked a sign that was about her becoming a medicine cat and she just stopped believing in starclan..... WHAT? Lol. Just because her brother faked a sign from starclan it doesn’t make starclan fake. That annoyed me ALOT.
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Post by cable on Feb 24, 2021 19:48:42 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, why do you hate Mothwing because she doesn't believe in StarClan? Tbh, she annoyed me when she found out her brother faked a sign that was about her becoming a medicine cat and she just stopped believing in starclan..... WHAT? Lol. Just because her brother faked a sign from starclan it doesn’t make starclan fake. That annoyed me ALOT. it wasnt just the fake sign. it seems like it was because starclan was billed to her as all-powerful, but in her mind, they did nothing to stop hawkfrost from intimidating and manipulating her (which would have been a traumatizing time in her life). speaking from experience, its an irrational response to something incredibly stressful. she needed somebody to blame, and hawkfrost wasnt around anymore, so starclan was the next choice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 0:54:16 GMT -5
Tbh, she annoyed me when she found out her brother faked a sign that was about her becoming a medicine cat and she just stopped believing in starclan..... WHAT? Lol. Just because her brother faked a sign from starclan it doesn’t make starclan fake. That annoyed me ALOT. it wasnt just the fake sign. it seems like it was because starclan was billed to her as all-powerful, but in her mind, they did nothing to stop hawkfrost from intimidating and manipulating her (which would have been a traumatizing time in her life). speaking from experience, its an irrational response to something incredibly stressful. she needed somebody to blame, and hawkfrost wasnt around anymore, so starclan was the next choice. just another reason why I hate mothwing:)
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Post by Rainsplash on Feb 28, 2021 1:51:41 GMT -5
Meh. Her non-belief in StarClan is understandable, I guess, but it doesn't make it less annoying.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Feb 28, 2021 18:46:14 GMT -5
I'm just sick of her
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 4, 2021 16:17:44 GMT -5
I like Mothwing. She's very likeable and enjoyable during TNP, and her relationship with Leafpool is so sweet.
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