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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Feb 9, 2021 7:10:31 GMT -5
What are some disorders you'd like to see in characters? It can be physical (Jayfeather's blindness and Snowkit's deafness) or mental (Moth Flight's ADHD and Palebird's depression)
I think it'd be interesting to see a cat with agoraphobia, since I have severe agoraphobia. :/
What would you guys like to see?
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Post by Rainsplash on Feb 9, 2021 7:42:34 GMT -5
Limping warriors can exist. Three-legged cats go around just fine. And in this case, it's just limping. Limping. I'm limping right now because my stupid ankle won't go good after two months, but I go around just fine - I do basketball, I can run and everything. Phobias of prey.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 9, 2021 8:10:39 GMT -5
Can we have a deaf character already?
Poor Snowkit during TPB deserved better!
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 9, 2021 9:33:53 GMT -5
I'd say Autism but I'm extremely nervous about suggesting that, we're usually depicted wrong, stereotyped, exaggerated, disrespected, or the butt of a joke in some media.
Instead I just HC characters with Autism, like Moth Flight for instance, as while she has ADHD, she does a lot of things I an autistic person also does and lots of folks with ASD is diagnosed with ADHD, hell I do a lot of things my ADHD sis also do so it's not off to do such a HC.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Feb 9, 2021 9:48:14 GMT -5
It would be interesting if a cat was so scared of killing that they refused to hunt down prey.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Feb 9, 2021 11:46:08 GMT -5
I’d love to see some more mental health struggles in the books. Maybe a cat that has PTSD after a battle (how does Violetshine NOT show symptoms of PTSD after everything with Darktail?). They attempted postpartum depression with Palebird, but they made her out to be a bad mother in a way.
I’d also like to see some more physical disabilities in ways that show a cat isn’t completely stopped from doing their duties. They do a good job with Deadfoot and Brightheart being able to be warriors despite their disabilities. I do also think they do a good job with Jayfeather, showing how he can be independent despite his blindness.
I’d like to see a deaf character. Maybe a character born missing a leg or something. I want more representation for characters with disabilities that are still able to be warriors and/or valued members of their Clans despite this.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Feb 9, 2021 13:42:26 GMT -5
A three-legged cat who can and does become a warrior. I'm done with them throwing all these cats in the medicine den!
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Post by Duskfire on Feb 9, 2021 14:45:57 GMT -5
A three-legged cat who can and does become a warrior. I'm done with them throwing all these cats in the medicine den! Yes. Some deformities would be nice and interesting!
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Post by tallshadowstar on Feb 9, 2021 15:03:44 GMT -5
I'd like to see a nonverbal or selectively mute cat. They could still have an inner monologue, and communicate with others via facial expression and body language. I'd say Autism but I'm extremely nervous about suggesting that, we're usually depicted wrong, stereotyped, exaggerated, disrespected, or the butt of a joke in some media. Instead I just HC characters with Autism, like Moth Flight for instance, as while she has ADHD, she does a lot of things I an autistic person also does and lots of folks with ASD is diagnosed with ADHD, hell I do a lot of things my ADHD sis also do so it's not off to do such a HC. Agreed. Autistic characters are so rarely written accurately and respectfully that I've basically stopped asking for representation in mainstream tv/movies/books.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 9, 2021 15:53:27 GMT -5
Someone having survived an adder bite could lead to a pretty cool design. Adder venom is like that of other vipers where it basically inflames and destroys the flesh it comes into contact with. Redwall had Slagar looking like half his face had melted off after being chomped by an adder, and I think it'd be interesting for a character to get that in Warriors too.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Feb 9, 2021 17:59:56 GMT -5
More psychological problems, not from having something crazy happening or supernatural powers, but from just living normally. There’s almost no way someone can live in a culture like warriors with constant fighting and not have some sort of psychological issue, but the cats are just prancing around like everything‘s fine. With all of the stuff they go through, I would think PTSD would be all over the place or a lot of people would just refuse to fight (and there would probably be more medicine cats). It would be interesting if that was an issue, but that it was never addressed.
I saw a story once where a character had schizophrenia. Said character was supposed to be a medicine cat, but the other didn’t know what to do with that idea and asked a friend about it. The friend, who didn’t know much about Warriors. The friend mentioned that the medicine cat duties reminded her of schizophrenia (namely, the visions from Starclan reminding her of hallucinations). The person decided to make the character an ordinary warrior, but schizophrenic instead. She did see things and have mood swings, but it was not enough to impair her function to the point where she couldn’t serve her Clan (although, since warriors doesn’t have treatment for schizophrenia, part of her issues was trying to keep it under control). It made me wonder what it would be like if someone had schizophrenia or some other disorder where they were prone to making things up or having vivid hallucinations. And of course the Warriors follow that because they don’t know any better and they’re used to following hallucinations (Starclan visions, even if they’re not called hallucinations, since they are similar). It would be even more interesting if the character was a medicine cat, or became one because of it (either manipulating Starclan or them taking pity and trying to help the character as best they could).
Another one would be any injury that a Twoleg could and does heal and the cats are confused. For example, there was one story where when a cat receives a severe leg injury, another mentions that one of the options is taking her to the local Twolegs and letting them amputate it. The cat would also get the choice of becoming a kittypet, and this was not seen as breaking the code because it was something beyond anyone’s control. Luckily, it doesn’t come to that and the leg heals enough so that the character does not need it amputated. But I thought it was an interesting premise, because there are just some injuries the cats cannot heal even the more advanced medicine can, and it would be interesting if they were more aware of that.
Another similar scenario that I saw was someone was discussing canonically what happened to Briarlight with their mother, and when they were explaining it, the mother was wondering if that meant the character would be in a wheelchair or would need one at some point. The person that I had to explain that these were cats in the forest and that this was impossible, but I thought it was interesting. I wondered what would happen if the characters saw something like that or had to deal with it being near them somehow. Something like that is possible for animals, and there was a very famous case of a dog that was paralyzed in his back legs, but got around via a small walker. So I wonder how the Warriors would depict that, but so far nothing has.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Feb 9, 2021 18:14:59 GMT -5
I would like to see someone with severe anxiety learning to cope in Warriors (if that hasn't already been done). We got Alderheart, but he just became incredibly boring.
And OCD rep that goes beyond just being a germophobe.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 9, 2021 18:29:02 GMT -5
More psychological problems, not from having something crazy happening or supernatural powers, but from just living normally. There’s almost no way someone can live in a culture like warriors with constant fighting and not have some sort of psychological issue, but the cats are just prancing around like everything‘s fine. With all of the stuff they go through, I would think PTSD would be all over the place or a lot of people would just refuse to fight (and there would probably be more medicine cats). It would be interesting if that was an issue, but that it was never addressed. I saw a story once where a character had schizophrenia. Said character was supposed to be a medicine cat, but the other didn’t know what to do with that idea and asked a friend about it. The friend, who didn’t know much about Warriors. The friend mentioned that the medicine cat duties reminded her of schizophrenia (namely, the visions from Starclan reminding her of hallucinations). The person decided to make the character an ordinary warrior, but schizophrenic instead. She did see things and have mood swings, but it was not enough to impair her function to the point where she couldn’t serve her Clan (although, since warriors doesn’t have treatment for schizophrenia, part of her issues was trying to keep it under control). It made me wonder what it would be like if someone had schizophrenia or some other disorder where they were prone to making things up or having vivid hallucinations. And of course the Warriors follow that because they don’t know any better and they’re used to following hallucinations (Starclan visions, even if they’re not called hallucinations, since they are similar). It would be even more interesting if the character was a medicine cat, or became one because of it (either manipulating Starclan or them taking pity and trying to help the character as best they could). Another one would be any injury that a Twoleg could and does heal and the cats are confused. For example, there was one story where when a cat receives a severe leg injury, another mentions that one of the options is taking her to the local Twolegs and letting them amputate it. The cat would also get the choice of becoming a kittypet, and this was not seen as breaking the code because it was something beyond anyone’s control. Luckily, it doesn’t come to that and the leg heals enough so that the character does not need it amputated. But I thought it was an interesting premise, because there are just some injuries the cats cannot heal even the more advanced medicine can, and it would be interesting if they were more aware of that. Another similar scenario that I saw was someone was discussing canonically what happened to Briarlight with their mother, and when they were explaining it, the mother was wondering if that meant the character would be in a wheelchair or would need one at some point. The person that I had to explain that these were cats in the forest and that this was impossible, but I thought it was interesting. I wondered what would happen if the characters saw something like that or had to deal with it being near them somehow. Something like that is possible for animals, and there was a very famous case of a dog that was paralyzed in his back legs, but got around via a small walker. So I wonder how the Warriors would depict that, but so far nothing has. Eh, culture has a lot to do with how badly fighting affects the mind. To our modern society where war is seen as a terrible thing and associated with industrial butchery, sure, but they exist in a society that glorifies war as the highest state of accomplishment, ritualize it heavily, and rarely actually die during such conflicts. I find it very doubtful that it would cause a great deal of mental stress. It's like how back in the old days, people would take their children to see hangings or other public executions as a fun little outing and it was not seen as traumatizing or disturbing. Given the cats are raised in a society that glorifies fighting(and victimless fighting by and large), trauma incurred should not be large. Furthermore, a lot of it has to do with evolution too. Apes are by and large very social animals that feel incredible stress when under conflict and generally eat plants. Humans in particular have become even more passive than the other apes by having incredibly reduced canines and very little sexual dimorphism. These are all biological traits indicative of a species that doesn't like to fight by nature. On the other hand, carnivorans like cats are known for being very violent and liable to kill each other. They have sharp claws and teeth for a reason, and it would be odd if they felt as much hesitance to fight as humans did. The cats are anthropomorphized, sure, but they still have the built and some of the behaviors of a carnivoran, and carnivorans are generally just much more comfortable with violence than apes are.
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Post by wftl1980 on Feb 10, 2021 2:19:20 GMT -5
Nightstar’s asthma is one that would be good to revisit, as would Runningnose’s hay fever/allergies. Maybe there’s a genetic predisposition to asthma/eczema/allergies in shadowclan. I can’t remember which author said it, or if it’s still considered canon, but exploring the idea that genetic blindness is a thing in windclan would be interesting.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Feb 10, 2021 14:34:52 GMT -5
Pica
a cat just chewing on a grocery bag much to the surprise of other cats
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Post by Cheetahstar on Feb 10, 2021 14:37:22 GMT -5
More psychological problems, not from having something crazy happening or supernatural powers, but from just living normally. There’s almost no way someone can live in a culture like warriors with constant fighting and not have some sort of psychological issue, but the cats are just prancing around like everything‘s fine. With all of the stuff they go through, I would think PTSD would be all over the place or a lot of people would just refuse to fight (and there would probably be more medicine cats). It would be interesting if that was an issue, but that it was never addressed. I saw a story once where a character had schizophrenia. Said character was supposed to be a medicine cat, but the other didn’t know what to do with that idea and asked a friend about it. The friend, who didn’t know much about Warriors. The friend mentioned that the medicine cat duties reminded her of schizophrenia (namely, the visions from Starclan reminding her of hallucinations). The person decided to make the character an ordinary warrior, but schizophrenic instead. She did see things and have mood swings, but it was not enough to impair her function to the point where she couldn’t serve her Clan (although, since warriors doesn’t have treatment for schizophrenia, part of her issues was trying to keep it under control). It made me wonder what it would be like if someone had schizophrenia or some other disorder where they were prone to making things up or having vivid hallucinations. And of course the Warriors follow that because they don’t know any better and they’re used to following hallucinations (Starclan visions, even if they’re not called hallucinations, since they are similar). It would be even more interesting if the character was a medicine cat, or became one because of it (either manipulating Starclan or them taking pity and trying to help the character as best they could). Another one would be any injury that a Twoleg could and does heal and the cats are confused. For example, there was one story where when a cat receives a severe leg injury, another mentions that one of the options is taking her to the local Twolegs and letting them amputate it. The cat would also get the choice of becoming a kittypet, and this was not seen as breaking the code because it was something beyond anyone’s control. Luckily, it doesn’t come to that and the leg heals enough so that the character does not need it amputated. But I thought it was an interesting premise, because there are just some injuries the cats cannot heal even the more advanced medicine can, and it would be interesting if they were more aware of that. Another similar scenario that I saw was someone was discussing canonically what happened to Briarlight with their mother, and when they were explaining it, the mother was wondering if that meant the character would be in a wheelchair or would need one at some point. The person that I had to explain that these were cats in the forest and that this was impossible, but I thought it was interesting. I wondered what would happen if the characters saw something like that or had to deal with it being near them somehow. Something like that is possible for animals, and there was a very famous case of a dog that was paralyzed in his back legs, but got around via a small walker. So I wonder how the Warriors would depict that, but so far nothing has. In one of my aus Snowfur survives but loses her usage of her back legs
They come up with using cobwebs to stick a bunch of leafs together to get liek a blanket of sorts so her legs won't get roughed up as she moves around, and in the winter it doubles as a sled!
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 10, 2021 14:44:46 GMT -5
Pica a cat just chewing on a grocery bag much to the surprise of other cats And if that cat actually eats the plastic that's just asking for a too easy death.
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Post by scarletflames on Feb 10, 2021 15:31:49 GMT -5
I’d understand if the authors wouldn’t be willing to tackle these disorders, even if they did there’s always a fear of misrepresentation or stereotypes, but since I have C-PTSD and more than the minimum traits of BPD (according to a therapist) *(Borderline Personality Disorder, not bipolar disorder); I wouldn’t mind if the Erins made a cat with one or both of those disorders. If they did it respectfully and accurately, I’d feel much less alone.
I also agree with Autism, since I’m on the spectrum, but my fear is they’d use Autism Speaks as a resource and I can’t stand that organization. So I’m ok if they don’t represent Autism for now- better zero representation than a terrible or stereotypical one. (I like the headcanon of Dovewing with ASD.)
Lastly, since I’m bisexual and cannot stand biphobia or bisexual erasure, can we get a badass bisexual character Erins? Out of all the representation I wrote, I think bisexuality would be the easiest for the Erins to include.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Feb 10, 2021 15:32:24 GMT -5
Pica a cat just chewing on a grocery bag much to the surprise of other cats And if that cat actually eats the plastic that's just asking for a too easy death. my cat literally will hunt the house for plastic
drives me insane
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Post by Ravenwhisker on Feb 10, 2021 16:12:55 GMT -5
A deaf(completely deaf and not hearing things) mute cat who still becomes a warrior.
A cat with terrible anxiety disorder.
A cat who is deaf (but not completely who still can hear things but very badly)
Maybe a cat with autism since it would be pretty interesting, and would be a good opportunity for representation and showning the difficulties of that character. Maybe also a cat with asperger syndrome (?).
And a cat with tourette
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Feb 10, 2021 18:03:35 GMT -5
More psychological problems, not from having something crazy happening or supernatural powers, but from just living normally. There’s almost no way someone can live in a culture like warriors with constant fighting and not have some sort of psychological issue, but the cats are just prancing around like everything‘s fine. With all of the stuff they go through, I would think PTSD would be all over the place or a lot of people would just refuse to fight (and there would probably be more medicine cats). It would be interesting if that was an issue, but that it was never addressed. I saw a story once where a character had schizophrenia. Said character was supposed to be a medicine cat, but the other didn’t know what to do with that idea and asked a friend about it. The friend, who didn’t know much about Warriors. The friend mentioned that the medicine cat duties reminded her of schizophrenia (namely, the visions from Starclan reminding her of hallucinations). The person decided to make the character an ordinary warrior, but schizophrenic instead. She did see things and have mood swings, but it was not enough to impair her function to the point where she couldn’t serve her Clan (although, since warriors doesn’t have treatment for schizophrenia, part of her issues was trying to keep it under control). It made me wonder what it would be like if someone had schizophrenia or some other disorder where they were prone to making things up or having vivid hallucinations. And of course the Warriors follow that because they don’t know any better and they’re used to following hallucinations (Starclan visions, even if they’re not called hallucinations, since they are similar). It would be even more interesting if the character was a medicine cat, or became one because of it (either manipulating Starclan or them taking pity and trying to help the character as best they could). Another one would be any injury that a Twoleg could and does heal and the cats are confused. For example, there was one story where when a cat receives a severe leg injury, another mentions that one of the options is taking her to the local Twolegs and letting them amputate it. The cat would also get the choice of becoming a kittypet, and this was not seen as breaking the code because it was something beyond anyone’s control. Luckily, it doesn’t come to that and the leg heals enough so that the character does not need it amputated. But I thought it was an interesting premise, because there are just some injuries the cats cannot heal even the more advanced medicine can, and it would be interesting if they were more aware of that. Another similar scenario that I saw was someone was discussing canonically what happened to Briarlight with their mother, and when they were explaining it, the mother was wondering if that meant the character would be in a wheelchair or would need one at some point. The person that I had to explain that these were cats in the forest and that this was impossible, but I thought it was interesting. I wondered what would happen if the characters saw something like that or had to deal with it being near them somehow. Something like that is possible for animals, and there was a very famous case of a dog that was paralyzed in his back legs, but got around via a small walker. So I wonder how the Warriors would depict that, but so far nothing has. In one of my aus Snowfur survives but loses her usage of her back legs
They come up with using cobwebs to stick a bunch of leafs together to get liek a blanket of sorts so her legs won't get roughed up as she moves around, and in the winter it doubles as a sled!
The idea of Snowfur sledding around is awesome! Now I can picture her on a sled! Wouldn’t she be devastated, though? After all, I can’t see her being a warrior after that, unless they figure out someway to do it, and she was one of the characters that really liked to fight.
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Post by ʙʀᴀᴄᴋᴇɴꜱᴜɴ ♞ on Apr 10, 2021 10:59:43 GMT -5
Perhaps cats that suffer with spatial hearing loss? It's not a complete loss of hearing, but the inability to properly associate a sound to a specific area.
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 10, 2021 16:17:44 GMT -5
Perhaps cats that suffer with spatial hearing loss? It's not a complete loss of hearing, but the inability to properly associate a sound to a specific area. I'm wondering if this counts as a necro as it's technically 2 months since the last reply but yeah. x3x''''
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Apr 10, 2021 16:34:15 GMT -5
Perhaps cats that suffer with spatial hearing loss? It's not a complete loss of hearing, but the inability to properly associate a sound to a specific area. I'm wondering if this counts as a necro as it's technically 2 months since the last reply but yeah. x3x''''Yes, still a necro.
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