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The Shiny User
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Nov 1, 2020 20:22:22 GMT -5
The ship everyone loves to debate about. Who do you prefer?
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Nov 1, 2020 20:50:37 GMT -5
I prefer Moonbli, but I wish Moon's feelings were better explained/expressed.
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Apricity
Bravelands is too slept on.
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Post by Apricity on Nov 1, 2020 21:52:20 GMT -5
I don't care for either. Both fell in love with her too quickly. But if I had to choose, it would be Moonbli, because it makes sense that she would choose the one who was nice to her. I share Umbra's wishes about getting more of Moon's side of it. I think an interesting route could have been taken with her and Mightyclaws. Either that or single.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Nov 1, 2020 21:52:25 GMT -5
Where's the neither option? I prefer Winterwatcher, but Winter himself still needs to grow before he can romance anyone and I'm glad the books acknowledged that.
Meanwhile, I just don't see any romantic chemistry between Moon and Qibli and it's one of the many things I didn't like about DoD. In fact, when reading the JM arc, I saw more chemistry between him and Winter than I did for him and Moon. And I like Qibli, I just wish Moon's side had been explored more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 21:55:11 GMT -5
I completely agree with 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵, as much as I love Winter's character, I think he needs to fully understand himself and his own emotions first. I've always liked Moonbli, I think they fit pretty well together c:
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Post by Rainfire on Nov 1, 2020 22:26:22 GMT -5
I prefer Winterwatcher just a bit more, but I'm cool with both.
I wish we could've gotten Qinter or Qinterwatcher though
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Post by Brindlefern on Nov 2, 2020 4:56:13 GMT -5
I prefer Winterwatcher actually. Seeing Winter grow less blech about Moonwatcher and seeing his genuine soft side towards her was endearing and also I feel like his book gave them better development. I do think it's good that Winter knows he needs to grow a little more before anything... I just wish he wasn't essentially shoved to the side like that. They did my man dirty even without giving him Moon as a S/O man.
Honestly, endgame should've just been QuinterWatcher. All three of them have the possibility of being together Tui says? Hmmm, interesting, okay then. I say Put all three together! Moon doesn't even have to love both in that either. Qibli can be her husband and Winter can be Qibli's boyfriend and her and Winter can just be platonic friends. It would've been the perfect endgame without shoving one or the other off like that.
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foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
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Post by foxstep on Nov 2, 2020 21:52:08 GMT -5
i always found moonbli boring. they were more like supportive friends to each other than love interests to me, it was established qibli liked her early on but a lot of his actions just seemed friendly? their relationship was just boring to me. whereas whenever winter thought about his future, he always thought of her in it.
i have to admit though, winter's treatment of her isn't good or healthy, he talks down to her and spent a long time hating her tribe that he passes on his judgement to her long after he decided his opinions were wrong. i feel like with time, he could change and become more accepting but it wasn't the right time for them to be together.
i personally think moon should just be single and qibli and winter should get together, winter started treating him with respect a lot faster than he did with moon, and winter and qibli just know each other a lot better than either of them know moon. they would clash but if they learned to completely respect and understand one another, it could work.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Nov 3, 2020 19:31:14 GMT -5
I prefer Winterwatcher, but that's further down the line. I need to see more development of anything before I feel like I can make a god claim for either. But I if I was to pick one, then Winterwatcher.
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Post by cygna on Dec 22, 2020 16:32:21 GMT -5
While I shipped winterwatcher first and more both ships are good, I love Winter and Qibli (more than Moon) and I never really cared about the "Bad Boy with a tragic backstory" thing when it came to Winter I just thought they had good chemistry. When Winter said "I hope I never hurt you" I squealed a little. I just thought this love triangle was well executed, I love that whenever Qibli and Winter argued it was never about Moon. When she chose Qibli, Winter was never became bitter and continued to love them both. I have read so few love triangles better than this one.
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I just registered my account so I'm just looking at posts no idea what to do :3
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Post by hollyleaf1 on Feb 12, 2021 19:27:47 GMT -5
I think Moonbli because Winter is kind of rude about it, but I wish I knew who Moon liked, because I don't even know if she knows they like her
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Pheonix
goodbye. I'm leaving the forums (for a while though I might come on here once a month or so)
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Post by Pheonix on Feb 15, 2021 13:51:38 GMT -5
I personally think Winterwatcher is so much better than Moonbli even though it would be much further down the line. I wish I knew who moon liked too, but I think she likes winter
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foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
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Post by foxstep on Mar 4, 2021 23:46:55 GMT -5
Moonbli is just so dry to me :/ they always felt more like friends than lovers even though they would be good partners to each other. But with Winterwatcher there was an actual spark between them and even Moon was flustered during their scenes together in Winter Turning. Suddenly she became annoyed with him in Escaping Peril though and I don't know why. It's either Winterwatcher or Qinter for me, because I feel like both ships have far more chemistry than Moonbli did. I could really see Winter and Qibli liking each other and I feel like deep down, Qibli already has feelings and so does Winter. Winterwatcher, if it progressed steadily, instead of the sudden turnaround in Escaping Peril, could have gone well too.
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Post by scint on Mar 5, 2021 9:51:48 GMT -5
i honestly don't like either
Moonbli has the same flavour of dry cardboard and with Winterwatcher, it had potential and chemistry but honestly? i really don't like Moon's shift in personality past her book and it felt unrealistic, but it was so much more noticeable in EP - then in DoD she was defending Darkstalker to his face after Darkstalker tried to kill all the IceWings and i?? Winter had every right to be upset in that moment considering the circumstances. and them not trusting Winter to harm a child and them just not telling him about what happened with Darkstalker (because i'm pretty sure he would've objected to changing someone with animus magic, after trying on the Pyrite necklace(?) and the whole thing with Hailstorm), i just?? yeah no i'm really not a fan of either, Moonbli had potential in MR with their dynamic but it was wasted and Winterwatcher's potential was wasted when Moon just had that sudden shift and then DoD is a whole mess that i don't want to touch
i would've preferred Qinter, and especially since it was confirmed in the Boskone event that it was a valid possibility, it just irritates me because i feel nothing was actually done with that canonical lgbt+ rep? like i just don't feel it's good and i don't like that. i like the fanon content Qinter has, though. i'm personally a fan of Wintle and Qintle because tbh? i just like the dynamic they could have, regarding both ships. but yeah no i'm not the biggest fan of any of the love triangle ships, though the Qinter fan content is good imo
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foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
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Post by foxstep on Mar 5, 2021 17:54:06 GMT -5
i honestly don't like either Moonbli has the same flavour of dry cardboard and with Winterwatcher, it had potential and chemistry but honestly? i really don't like Moon's shift in personality past her book and it felt unrealistic, but it was so much more noticeable in EP - then in DoD she was defending Darkstalker to his face after Darkstalker tried to kill all the IceWings and i?? Winter had every right to be upset in that moment considering the circumstances. and them not trusting Winter to harm a child and them just not telling him about what happened with Darkstalker (because i'm pretty sure he would've objected to changing someone with animus magic, after trying on the Pyrite necklace(?) and the whole thing with Hailstorm), i just?? yeah no i'm really not a fan of either, Moonbli had potential in MR with their dynamic but it was wasted and Winterwatcher's potential was wasted when Moon just had that sudden shift and then DoD is a whole mess that i don't want to touch i would've preferred Qinter, and especially since it was confirmed in the Boskone event that it was a valid possibility, it just irritates me because i feel nothing was actually done with that canonical lgbt+ rep? like i just don't feel it's good and i don't like that. i like the fanon content Qinter has, though. i'm personally a fan of Wintle and Qintle because tbh? i just like the dynamic they could have, regarding both ships. but yeah no i'm not the biggest fan of any of the love triangle ships, though the Qinter fan content is good imo this. everything about this is so perfectly said. i really shipped moon and winter in winter turning and kind of held out hope after that up until darkness of dragons but moon just suddenly changed in escaping peril when they were nearing the time for darkstalker to come back and she got really hissy towards winter for not trusting him like??? she annoyed me so much in the second half of the series, she kept flipflopping in her opinion towards darkstalker. one moment she's advocating for the nightwings to not follow him and the next she's doing mental gymnastics to defend him to someone who was not only possessed by his magic but had his entire tribe almost killed by this same dragon AND also trusted her to see reason and stop him. but winter was played off as the one in the wrong just because he was angry because?? someone manipulated his mind against his will?? especially after he was traumatized by being in pyrite's mind?? moon really did not deserve him. her and qibli are dry asf together and qinter should have been a thing. like why was moonbli picked over qinter come on tui even to this day qinter has MUCH better chemistry than moonbli, it was the least that could happen after winterwatcher was destroyed.
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Asexual
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 6, 2021 12:44:00 GMT -5
i honestly don't like either Moonbli has the same flavour of dry cardboard and with Winterwatcher, it had potential and chemistry but honestly? i really don't like Moon's shift in personality past her book and it felt unrealistic, but it was so much more noticeable in EP - then in DoD she was defending Darkstalker to his face after Darkstalker tried to kill all the IceWings and i?? Winter had every right to be upset in that moment considering the circumstances. and them not trusting Winter to harm a child and them just not telling him about what happened with Darkstalker (because i'm pretty sure he would've objected to changing someone with animus magic, after trying on the Pyrite necklace(?) and the whole thing with Hailstorm), i just?? yeah no i'm really not a fan of either, Moonbli had potential in MR with their dynamic but it was wasted and Winterwatcher's potential was wasted when Moon just had that sudden shift and then DoD is a whole mess that i don't want to touch i would've preferred Qinter, and especially since it was confirmed in the Boskone event that it was a valid possibility, it just irritates me because i feel nothing was actually done with that canonical lgbt+ rep? like i just don't feel it's good and i don't like that. i like the fanon content Qinter has, though. i'm personally a fan of Wintle and Qintle because tbh? i just like the dynamic they could have, regarding both ships. but yeah no i'm not the biggest fan of any of the love triangle ships, though the Qinter fan content is good imo this. everything about this is so perfectly said. i really shipped moon and winter in winter turning and kind of held out hope after that up until darkness of dragons but moon just suddenly changed in escaping peril when they were nearing the time for darkstalker to come back and she got really hissy towards winter for not trusting him like??? she annoyed me so much in the second half of the series, she kept flipflopping in her opinion towards darkstalker. one moment she's advocating for the nightwings to not follow him and the next she's doing mental gymnastics to defend him to someone who was not only possessed by his magic but had his entire tribe almost killed by this same dragon AND also trusted her to see reason and stop him. but winter was played off as the one in the wrong just because he was angry because?? someone manipulated his mind against his will?? especially after he was traumatized by being in pyrite's mind?? moon really did not deserve him. her and qibli are dry asf together and qinter should have been a thing. like why was moonbli picked over qinter come on tui even to this day qinter has MUCH better chemistry than moonbli, it was the least that could happen after winterwatcher was destroyed. I still remember that scene in DoD where Qibli joked about marrying Winter and his mom really seemed to consider that as an option. It's the best.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Mar 6, 2021 16:38:45 GMT -5
Where's the neither option? I prefer Winterwatcher, but Winter himself still needs to grow before he can romance anyone and I'm glad the books acknowledged that. Meanwhile, I just don't see any romantic chemistry between Moon and Qibli and it's one of the many things I didn't like about DoD. In fact, when reading the JM arc, I saw more chemistry between him and Winter than I did for him and Moon. And I like Qibli, I just wish Moon's side had been explored more. Agree with all of this. I cannot see Moon and Qibli as romantic partners. I definitely would’ve preferred Qinter honestly.
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Pheonix
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Post by Pheonix on Mar 7, 2021 14:26:44 GMT -5
qinter? that is never gonna happen, first of all, they mostly hate eachother, and winter's parents will basically not allow it. 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 I totally agree with your last post.
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Post by scint on Mar 7, 2021 14:42:15 GMT -5
qinter? that is never gonna happen, first of all, they mostly hate eachother, and winter's parents will basically not allow it. 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 I totally agree with your last post. ...uh, what? Qibli and Winter are best friends, Winter literally calls Qibli as such in the epilogue and Qibli actually shows genuine care and concern for Winter, such as during the search for Hailstorm and when Winter almost died in EP (which, he was crying). I'm really not sure where this claim comes from? It's completely false to say that when the books show otherwise? And Winter's not even in the Ice Kingdom any more, it really doesn't matter what his parents would think? And it was also confirmed here that Qinter was a legit possibility to become canon over Moonbli and Winterwatcher.
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Pheonix
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Post by Pheonix on Mar 7, 2021 14:47:10 GMT -5
ok ok, lemme fix that, winter hated qibli at first then they were friends. also yea I guess it doesn't matter what his parents think anymore. I am just mixed up today
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 7, 2021 15:35:51 GMT -5
qinter? that is never gonna happen, first of all, they mostly hate eachother, and winter's parents will basically not allow it. 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 I totally agree with your last post. ...uh, what? Qibli and Winter are best friends, Winter literally calls Qibli as such in the epilogue and Qibli actually shows genuine care and concern for Winter, such as during the search for Hailstorm and when Winter almost died in EP (which, he was crying). I'm really not sure where this claim comes from? It's completely false to say that when the books show otherwise? And Winter's not even in the Ice Kingdom any more, it really doesn't matter what his parents would think? And it was also confirmed here that Qinter was a legit possibility to become canon over Moonbli and Winterwatcher. Adding onto this, even if they did hate each other, enemies-to-lovers is literally one of the most common tropes in fiction. The characters aren't static and they spent alot of time in Darkness of Dragons together.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 7, 2021 15:40:25 GMT -5
ok ok, lemme fix that, winter hated qibli at first then they were friends. also yea I guess it doesn't matter what his parents think anymore. I am just mixed up today Actually, I wouldn't even say that Winter hated Qibli. Mildly annoyed would probably be more accurate. But then, this applied to pretty much anyone who wasn't an IceWing, so it's not like his prejudice was exclusive to Qibli, either.
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Pheonix
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Post by Pheonix on Mar 8, 2021 19:42:07 GMT -5
yea......
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Chasm
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Post by Chasm on Mar 12, 2021 2:12:33 GMT -5
I honestly agree with several people here, but im ok with all four ships discussed here. yes, four. Moonbli, Winterwatcher, Quinter and Quinterwatcher.
personally i feel like they all would've been better off in a sort of polyamorous relationship with each other. It's been a bit since i read the second arc, but the three of them worked better together then with only two of them, if that makes sense. They each sort of balance each other out.
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Post by loveisalighthouse on Mar 15, 2021 20:49:24 GMT -5
My prefered outcome for this whole thing would have been that Moon does indeed reject Winter and he realizes how he was behaving towards her, then they eventually become friends again, but never anything romantic. What about Qibli, you say? I think his crush on Moon was out of nowhere and totally unecessary, and the fact that suddendly she feels the same way is outright ridiculous. Just let Qibli not have a love interest, kinda like Sunny. Or put him with Winter, if you rewrite a couple scenes this could honestly work out well.
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Post by silverpeaks on Oct 10, 2022 10:42:48 GMT -5
Well..., honestly I think that Winter would have been a better choice further on down the line. I can see how Tui chose Qibli, and he is very caring about Moon constantly, whereas Winter has been a bit of a jerk at times. But this could have less to some very interesting subplots, and Moonbli is just so... Easy. That sounds harsh, but there is no evidence that Moon likes Qibli, and he acts like more of a friend than a lover. Whereas, in their time alone, Moon and Winter were always awkward, and kinda shy.
I find it very hard to overlook another missed moral/idea - Foeslayer and Arcit caused so much pain by being together, Nightwing and Icewing. The tribes were enemies ever since, Darkstalker happened and the Icewings no longer have animus dragons.
Wouldn't it be so poetically ironic if another Icewing-Nightwing couple stopped all that? They could have taken down Darkstalker, proving that Nightwings could be good.
It was suggested that Moonwatcher could have been one of Darkstalker's descendants and therefore have animus powers. If she and winter were together, they could ahev brought animus blood back to the icewings, therefore solving that problem.
However, I can't see much happening with Qibli, and although he has a very caring personality and cares deeply about Moon, this is just so random - Winter's love was developed so much more in his book that Qibli's ever was. This is proven in the way that Winter hates himself for loving her, but he can't help it. Can't help imagining them together, always thinking about her, and doesn't care what anyone thinks.
To me, Qibli and Moon aren't very compatible either, their personalities seem to indicate that they should be good friends, not lovers. Winter and Moon, however counteract eachother.
Another interesting turn that I also believe should have been followed up, would be Qinter. Their personalities counteract so well, and they already have more romantic chemistry than has been strung between either Moonbli or Winterwatcher.
This is just my opinion, what do y'all think
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Post by Jaggeddawn on Dec 26, 2022 13:01:52 GMT -5
Well..., honestly I think that Winter would have been a better choice further on down the line. I can see how Tui chose Qibli, and he is very caring about Moon constantly, whereas Winter has been a bit of a jerk at times. But this could have less to some very interesting subplots, and Moonbli is just so... Easy. That sounds harsh, but there is no evidence that Moon likes Qibli, and he acts like more of a friend than a lover. Whereas, in their time alone, Moon and Winter were always awkward, and kinda shy. I find it very hard to overlook another missed moral/idea - Foeslayer and Arcit caused so much pain by being together, Nightwing and Icewing. The tribes were enemies ever since, Darkstalker happened and the Icewings no longer have animus dragons. Wouldn't it be so poetically ironic if another Icewing-Nightwing couple stopped all that? They could have taken down Darkstalker, proving that Nightwings could be good. It was suggested that Moonwatcher could have been one of Darkstalker's descendants and therefore have animus powers. If she and winter were together, they could ahev brought animus blood back to the icewings, therefore solving that problem. However, I can't see much happening with Qibli, and although he has a very caring personality and cares deeply about Moon, this is just so random - Winter's love was developed so much more in his book that Qibli's ever was. This is proven in the way that Winter hates himself for loving her, but he can't help it. Can't help imagining them together, always thinking about her, and doesn't care what anyone thinks. To me, Qibli and Moon aren't very compatible either, their personalities seem to indicate that they should be good friends, not lovers. Winter and Moon, however counteract eachother. Another interesting turn that I also believe should have been followed up, would be Qinter. Their personalities counteract so well, and they already have more romantic chemistry than has been strung between either Moonbli or Winterwatcher. This is just my opinion, what do y'all think Actually, I agree. I used to ship Moonbli but now... I prefer Quinter and Quinterwatcher.
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Post by rageelixir on Dec 31, 2022 21:01:44 GMT -5
neither. i am a qibli x winter truther
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Post by 🧡🤍fizzyy🤍🩵 on Aug 25, 2024 20:58:08 GMT -5
MOONBLI!! (I don’t have any evidence to back it up but do you think I care? No.)
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Post by 🎄tansypool🪿 on Sept 18, 2024 11:43:09 GMT -5
Moonbli because Winter was kinda... toxic. and also moonbli is cannon.
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