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Post by Sand on Sept 22, 2020 18:34:51 GMT -5
September 22 is National Voters Day. For those of you that are old enough to vote, please don't forget to vote when your local elections are scheduled! Please let me know if I have forgotten your country.
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Post by Stonetoe on Sept 24, 2020 11:33:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the reminder! I'm voting for Donald Trump!
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 24, 2020 13:07:04 GMT -5
Tfw you wanna vote so bad but you're too young :')
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 24, 2020 19:21:46 GMT -5
2016 was my first election, and i was like, "damn this is a horrible selection, hopefully my next election will have reasonable choices"
my my does the world like to spit at me. guess im voting third party again lmao
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Sept 24, 2020 20:57:12 GMT -5
Ngl I'd argue that voting third party is what got us into this disaster in the first place. I'm going for the 'lesser of two evils' haha
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Post by trickster ♥ on Sept 24, 2020 21:07:02 GMT -5
my first year to vote and i feel like throwing up just thinking about it
but I also can't wait to vote in the local elections. I firmly believe EVERYONE needs do research and focus on local stuff just as much as the presidential election. a lot of crap flies by under the radar bc not enough people pay attention to who's running or wins unless it's on a big scale and by then it's too late and we have... the situation we have now.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 25, 2020 16:06:23 GMT -5
Ngl I'd argue that voting third party is what got us into this disaster in the first place. I'm going for the 'lesser of two evils' haha i mean the "throwing away your vote" argument only applies if you considered one candidate a lesser evil than the others. it suggests that if i didn't vote third party, i would have otherwise voted for one of the two main canidates, but i wouldn't; they are very much on the same level of Bad to me. besides, there's never not gonna be a high stakes presidential election (although thats arguable since both candidates are neo-liberals). so long as people keep telling others not to vote third party, the two-party stranglehold will perpetuate 'cause other options will never be normalized.
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Post by Leapkit on Sept 25, 2020 17:20:55 GMT -5
If less people thought of third parties as a "throw away" vote and voted because they're actually a better candidate there wouldnt BE a "throw away" vote.
The two party system sucks ass for a reason. Not voting third party perpetuates that.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 25, 2020 18:03:15 GMT -5
Not to get too political, but many political scientists are concerned about the authoritarian tendencies of the current administration. We literally have a president who relied on a foreign government's help to win the election, has had a heavily indicted and criminally-involved circle, and who is threatening violence if he loses in november. That's really unprecedented. No matter where you fall on the political spectrum, seems like priority number one should be preserving our democracy. And the best way to do that is to vote for the person most likely to beat the objectively corrupt incumbent. as someone who has a degree in political history, i can assure you, nothing about this is unprecedented. our current president is not any more corrupt than numerous others in recent history (and far history) on both sides of the aisle. be careful about presenting biased perspective as objective fact; obviously there's no getting away from bias, because we all have it, but everyone in political conversation cannot present a personal conviction as assumed fact. for instance, i think biden will do just as well as trump at "preserving our democracy", based on what exactly i think preservation looks like. people will come to different conclusions even when presented with the same information. i will vote my conscious, and my conscious says that they are equally corrupt neoliberals whom i have no interest in assigning my name to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 18:08:53 GMT -5
ngl i'd vote if i could get a mail-in ballot, but as it is-- my state will always be red for the foreseeable future, my county will always be blue, and my congressional district is hella gerrymandered to always be strongly red.
my vote literally does not matter, and i don't want to risk getting covid-19 over it.
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Post by ℊℓоω on Sept 25, 2020 18:25:51 GMT -5
Not to get too political, but many political scientists are concerned about the authoritarian tendencies of the current administration. We literally have a president who relied on a foreign government's help to win the election, has had a heavily indicted and criminally-involved circle, and who is threatening violence if he loses in november. That's really unprecedented. No matter where you fall on the political spectrum, seems like priority number one should be preserving our democracy. And the best way to do that is to vote for the person most likely to beat the objectively corrupt incumbent. as someone who has a degree in political history, i can assure you, nothing about this is unprecedented. our current president is not any more corrupt than numerous others in recent history (and far history) on both sides of the aisle. be careful about presenting biased perspective as objective fact; obviously there's no getting away from bias, because we all have it, but everyone in political conversation cannot present a personal conviction as assumed fact. for instance, i think biden will do just as well as trump at "preserving our democracy", based on what exactly i think preservation looks like. people will come to different conclusions even when presented with the same information. i will vote my conscious, and my conscious says that they are equally corrupt neoliberals whom i have no interest in assigning my name to. You're allowed to feel however you want to feel, however it's simply not true to say this presidency is run-of-the mill or normal (particularly in terms of modern american history). I could go on about this, but if you have a political degree I'm sure you know what's going on in the news.
Anyway, I won't respond further because I know this isn't the venue for political debate. Hope you have a nice evening regardless.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 25, 2020 20:58:41 GMT -5
as someone who has a degree in political history, i can assure you, nothing about this is unprecedented. our current president is not any more corrupt than numerous others in recent history (and far history) on both sides of the aisle. be careful about presenting biased perspective as objective fact; obviously there's no getting away from bias, because we all have it, but everyone in political conversation cannot present a personal conviction as assumed fact. for instance, i think biden will do just as well as trump at "preserving our democracy", based on what exactly i think preservation looks like. people will come to different conclusions even when presented with the same information. i will vote my conscious, and my conscious says that they are equally corrupt neoliberals whom i have no interest in assigning my name to. You're allowed to feel however you want to feel, however it's simply not true to say this presidency is run-of-the mill or normal (particularly in terms of modern american history). I could go on about this, but if you have a political degree I'm sure you know what's going on in the news.
Anyway, I won't respond further because I know this isn't the venue for political debate. Hope you have a nice evening regardless.hope you do too. i admire your convictions, even if i do not agree with them! edit: also i want to clarify, im did not mean that this is a "normal" election, but rather it is far from unprecedented, even in recent history.
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