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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Aug 8, 2020 19:34:20 GMT -5
Probably if Bristlefrost's character gets jacked in favor of RootBristle, Shadowsight becomes irrelevant, or if the last two books poorly execute the whole Ashfur/codebreakers/warrior code changing thing.
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Aug 8, 2020 20:46:09 GMT -5
(Not my least favorite. However...) TBC might join POT, OOTS, and DOTC as not-so-great books if I'm unimpressed with the villain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 20:46:23 GMT -5
TBC isn't my least favorite arc, it didn't seem fair to judge it as bad, since it's only half-way through. However, some things I dislike, is how plot focused it is, rather than being more character focused. All Bristlefrost seems to be most of the time is a camera that focuses on the impostor, Shadowsight is nothing more than a messenger, and Rootspring has the most character to him out of the three protagonists, but I really wish he'd focus on cats in SkyClan, instead of on Bristlefrost. There has hardly been any scenes with SkyClan cats or ShadowClan cats, despite a POV character being in both of those clans. There are hardly any friend or family bonding scenes, because everything is so fast paced, and they're just focusing on the impostor, and nothing else. I also don't think the impostor is as bad ass as people think, we don't even know if he's the ring leader, or if he's the one who blocked StarClan, all we know, is that he can't act to save his life, and he's incapable of killing a little ShadowClan medicine cat. I also wish that the impostor would be someone whose actual goal is to change to code, or to punish code-breakers, whatever the end-game is, not a jilted incel. Another thing I don't like is who they killed off in VOS, like oh, the only cat who can carry on Crowfrost's bloodline now is Sleekwhisker, fantastic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 21:47:13 GMT -5
I really wish you'd stop acting like it's the end of the world when you "figure out" people don't like TBC as much or at all like you. Your opinion is not universal and you asking why someone doesn't like it over and over isn't going to change anything, you know. Chicken 's post sums up why I don't like it and I already explained in other threads before about it.
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Post by Hollyfall on Aug 8, 2020 22:41:00 GMT -5
Some people just....don't like the arc? They're not required to. I personally think it's one of the better arcs we've gotten but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Aug 9, 2020 2:53:54 GMT -5
Literally everything Chicken said, particularly the part about character. My favorite arc is Po3, which is a very character-focused arc (to the point a lot of people complain about it not having a plot. I disagree with them, but that criticism does exist). TBC is like, literally the exact opposite. I'm kind of... not.. in a coherent state of mind right now, so I can't type detailed reasons, but basically, I find the lore broken to the point of no return, the character arcs are bad (Root's is pretty good, but the others are nonexistent), the villain is stupid both generally and because he was stolen and then ruined from a better arc, and characters from past arcs don't feel like the same cats. The worst thing for me actually is that Lost Stars set up a really really interesting plot that TSiT and VoS then trashed for the sake of "bringing back a controversial character".
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Post by Lightflame on Aug 9, 2020 11:14:15 GMT -5
TBC is by no means my least favourite arc, but it does have some major flaws, most significantly the weakest supporting cast of any arc.
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Post by Emberstar 🔥 on Aug 9, 2020 13:29:52 GMT -5
The Antagonist is really unique. Ashfur is really the only antagonist (Besides Sol) to harbour in the clans and be able to be respected for a time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 13:47:08 GMT -5
tbc isn't my least favourite arc, that'd go to avos, but it might be right behind it. i can't elaborate on veil of shadows since i haven't read it yet, but TBC having ashfur as the imposter just isn't for me. it isn't fair to judge tbc as a whole quite yet, but silent thaw was a huge let-down. imposter sort of lost all the charisma he might've had in lost stars, like i get it's warriors but he does stupid shit that anyone with a brain would see as... off. the clans felt way too dumbed down, and really the main characters didn't get any focus on themselves, in bristlefrost's case Chicken said it perfectly in that she's basically a camera to see how imposter is behaving. i know for a fact that shadowsight isn't dead, and that the authors will just retcon his 'death' if you can call it that once more just as they did with squilf and tigerheart. the cats just seem isolated in their own little world of imposter constantly doing dumb shit rather than getting any development elsewhere. take this with a grain of salt, but i really hope the next few books address starclan. it'd be a huge opportunity to push them down a peg for all that troll logic that got thrown around in omen and power of three
i did hear that veil of shadows killed off a bunch of side characters tho, so i guess i'll enjoy it for that alone
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Pansexual
Crysolis
What is that melody..?
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Post by Crysolis on Aug 9, 2020 14:50:00 GMT -5
I really wish you'd stop acting like it's the end of the world when you "figure out" people don't like TBC as much or at all like you. Your opinion is not universal and you asking why someone doesn't like it over and over isn't going to change anything, you know. Chicken 's post sums up why I don't like it and I already explained in other threads before about it. He was just asking a question there’s no need to be a ****
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Post by Sand on Aug 9, 2020 16:58:25 GMT -5
I really wish you'd stop acting like it's the end of the world when you "figure out" people don't like TBC as much or at all like you. Your opinion is not universal and you asking why someone doesn't like it over and over isn't going to change anything, you know. Chicken 's post sums up why I don't like it and I already explained in other threads before about it. I understand what you’re trying to say here, but this is not the way to go about it at all. It’s just a question. One question. Stop being rude and disrespectful, we don’t tolerate such behavior here. There are many ways to word your post respectfully and kindly, but the way you have done it is not one. If you have nothing nice to say, then don’t say anything at all. As for those of you who liked the post— you’re also being disrespectful and rude.
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Post by Sand on Aug 9, 2020 20:54:02 GMT -5
I really wish you'd stop acting like it's the end of the world when you "figure out" people don't like TBC as much or at all like you. Your opinion is not universal and you asking why someone doesn't like it over and over isn't going to change anything, you know. Chicken 's post sums up why I don't like it and I already explained in other threads before about it. He was just asking a question there’s no need to be a **** There's also no reason to be rude back. Insulting a member isn't going to make things any better and it surely won't help anyone out here either.
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Post by Sand on Aug 9, 2020 21:10:28 GMT -5
It's censored, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I'm just asking you to not insult members, I'm not concerned about the word.
I've things going on, my responses are usually pretty sporadic.
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Post by Tas on Aug 11, 2020 10:25:52 GMT -5
I'm loving the plot and the pacing of the books. While I also enjoyed the more character-based arcs like POT and DOTC (my 1st and T-2nd favourites, no less), reading TBC makes me feel like I'm back in LionClan, gathering intel, building suspense, preparing for the final battle and the final reveal. The quality of writing has drastically improved since AVOS and even DOTC and I find myself actually invested in the books for the first time in a while, not just reading it to read it.
At the same time, as folks have said above, the characters are not the main focus here. That's because there's actually plot in this arc. You know, unlike POT, OOTS, and AVOS, something real is happening and so there's naturally less time to focus on mentor-apprentice relationships or whatever. Warriors books are fairly brief as far as novels go, I'm sure they could stick in some more downtime, but the pacing is a lot higher here than we're used to. This is fine. It's different, it's fun to read (less fun to head-canon I guess?).
It would be nice to have that perfect balance of cast and plot, but look - we're tipping the scales.
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Post by Tas on Aug 11, 2020 10:27:21 GMT -5
The Antagonist is really unique. Ashfur is really the only antagonist (Besides Sol) to harbour in the clans and be able to be respected for a time Exactly why Ashfur is working with Sol to perfect his devilish schemes!
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