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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 27, 2020 13:48:45 GMT -5
I think it's interesting that Thornclaw even brought up his issues with the Clan ranks, and the fact that others seem to feel the same way. It's almost like he's being a fandom mouth piece right now, which is also...a bit on the nose but interesting either way. Now that this is on the table, do you think the Erins will actually make changes to the current higher ups? I actually agree with him to a point, and I think a new different "Family" or other character should at least be given a chance at deputyship. The current choices are getting a bit tiring. First Firestar, then Bramblestar, Squirrelflight, and now Lionblaze. Seriously...
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Post by Jaysnow on Jul 27, 2020 14:33:21 GMT -5
The nepotism call out was my favorite thing about the GV excerpt. I really hope they actually do something about it rather than just pointing out they're aware of how fans feel about it.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jul 27, 2020 15:51:50 GMT -5
I don't get the cheer for remarks against nepotism, as it's in literally every Clan but maybe SkyClan. Even then, it's still somewhat there.
ShadowClan had Rowanstar, who appointed Crowfrost, Tigerheart, and Tawnypelt, then Tigerstar appointed Tawnypelt and we only now get Cloverfoot.
Reedwhisker is Mistystar's son and it was called out.
Tallstar appointed Onewhisker, which was revealed to be his nephew. Onestar picked Ashfoot. Harestar is widely headcanoned to be Onestar's son, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Erins enforced that. If so, then Crowfeather is also nepotism, but he would be regardless due to his familial connection to Onestar.
The Clans are a jumbled mess of inbred, so no matter how you look at it, it's nepotism and I don't get Thornclaw's callout being so great.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 27, 2020 16:00:11 GMT -5
i's kinda too late? because pretty much the whole clan is related to firestar now so it's much harder to avoid now.
im still rooting for Molewhisker
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Post by vectoring34 on Jul 27, 2020 16:26:17 GMT -5
I really don't think there would be a position change. It'd be kind of silly.
"I know I am quite qualified for this position and you are not, but because I happen to be related to the leader and you are not, fairness demands that I step down and you random, unqualified cat take my position instead."
Should they just set up a rotation process where each bloodline takes turns being qualified? What happens if two bloodlines mate, does that then reduce their leadership prospects because it becomes a single line? What if a mated pair breaks up, does this then put them back in the running? How distantly related does a cat have to be to avoid being part of a bloodline? Who defines where the bloodlines stop and start?
I could carry on with the logistical issues of forcing this bloodline issue and why it's entirely impractical, but safe to say I don't find Thornclaw's complaints very compelling. There is no good alternative unless you want the clans to start voting for their leaders, which I really doubt will be a thing.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 27, 2020 16:56:47 GMT -5
I found the callout to be hilarious, but it really doesn't make much sense from a logical standpoint. The Clans are inbred primarily because of the first code, and at some point, everyone is going to be related to Firestar. There also hasn't been that many eligible cats who would seem to be right for the job except for maybe Molewhisker.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 27, 2020 18:49:11 GMT -5
I found the callout to be hilarious, but it really doesn't make much sense from a logical standpoint. The Clans are inbred primarily because of the first code, and at some point, everyone is going to be related to Firestar. There also hasn't been that many eligible cats who would seem to be right for the job except for maybe Molewhisker. #MolewhiskerForPresident
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 27, 2020 20:07:53 GMT -5
It's kind of pointless bc half of ThunderClan has no personality and the other half are all related to Firestar imo
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