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Post by lakefrost on Jun 29, 2020 8:34:58 GMT -5
(sorry for bad english) I feel like Squirrelpaw(flight) in the first 3 TNP books is now my least faw character. I read those books for the first time, so I don’t know about her adulthood, but so far she is annoying to me. She is always right, always the reason why journey cats are successful, etc. Meanwhile, other 5 cats are barely give ideas (as far as I remember). Sometimes she is disrespectful to other cats or even clans. What’s your opinion on her in that stage?
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Post by halogen on Jun 29, 2020 9:06:43 GMT -5
I was rereading the journey sections of Midnight and I wouldn't say that Squirrelflight is the only one with all the good ideas - Stormfur and Brambleclaw seemed to do just as much or more in terms of coming up with the ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 9:45:41 GMT -5
I hated SquirrelPAW but love Squirrelflight
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🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jun 29, 2020 10:34:36 GMT -5
Squirrelpaw was quite annoying, but I love how she grew better instead of staying that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:46:05 GMT -5
I couldn't stand Squirrelflight. First of all, she blackmailed her way into coming on the journey, she just ran off and left, putting all that worry on her clanmates. She was mentioned to have never listened to her mentor, and to always be running off doing her own thing. Yeah, she was young, but there are other characters who did annoying things when they were kits and they don't get their behavior excused because they were young. As for her always being right, this doesn't change! No matter what she does, it always turns out to be in her favor, she is somehow always in the right.
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Post by Oceanmist97 on Jun 29, 2020 12:52:52 GMT -5
Personally, I loved Squirrelpaw, and she was one of my favorite characters throughout TNP. My view at the time that she was kind of an obnoxious teenager, but was quickly forced to grow up during the journey. Kind of a "bit off more than you could chew" type of situation. I think Squirrelpaw in Dawn is very different than Squirrelpaw in Midnight. That sort of overconfidence turned into humility is the sort of thing I like in character arcs.
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Post by halogen on Jun 29, 2020 14:38:10 GMT -5
Personally, I loved Squirrelpaw, and she was one of my favorite characters throughout TNP. My view at the time that she was kind of an obnoxious teenager, but was quickly forced to grow up during the journey. Kind of a "bit off more than you could chew" type of situation. I think Squirrelpaw in Dawn is very different than Squirrelpaw in Midnight. That sort of overconfidence turned into humility is the sort of thing I like in character arcs. I can see OP's point, though, because even if she matures she is never really challenged by the narrative - the narrative treats it as if she was unambiguously right to force herself into the journey because nothiing but positive things come from it, she never really suffers hardships the way some of the others do (Feathertail dies, Tawnypelt gets a horrible injury and is lucky to not die herself, Stormfur goes through a lot with the tribe and gets imprisoned, etc, both him and Brambleclaw get the horrific experience of almost drowning in the sun-drown place, Crowpaw gets nearly kiilled by Sharptooth and only survives because of Feathertail ssacrificing herself, which haunts him the rest of his life, even on an emotional level she's the one to get over Feathertail's death the first and get everyone else hyped for saving the Clans). Even when she does something the journeying cats rightfully calls out as stupid, it leads to positive consequences improbably, like when she successfully saves Brambleclaw from drowning in the sun-drown place even though she doesn't know how to swim, even Stormfur was struggling due to it being the ocean, and that's all without trying to carry someone who is drowning and iinstinctually thrashiing around and trrying to pull you with them, which is dangerous even for a strong swimmer. Tawnypelt calls her out for how stupid that is, but she's treated as in the wrong for that because Squirrelpaw got absurdly lucky.
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Post by halogen on Jun 29, 2020 14:38:41 GMT -5
Personally, I loved Squirrelpaw, and she was one of my favorite characters throughout TNP. My view at the time that she was kind of an obnoxious teenager, but was quickly forced to grow up during the journey. Kind of a "bit off more than you could chew" type of situation. I think Squirrelpaw in Dawn is very different than Squirrelpaw in Midnight. That sort of overconfidence turned into humility is the sort of thing I like in character arcs. I can see OP's point, though, because even if she matures she is never really challenged by the narrative - the narrative treats it as if she was unambiguously right to force herself into the journey because nothing but positive things come from it, she never really suffers hardships the way some of the others do (Feathertail dies, Tawnypelt gets a horrible injury and is lucky to not die herself, Stormfur goes through a lot with the tribe and gets imprisoned, etc, both him and Brambleclaw get the horrific experience of almost drowning in the sun-drown place, Crowpaw gets nearly killed by Sharptooth and only survives because of Feathertail sacrificing herself, which haunts him the rest of his life, even on an emotional level she's the one to get over Feathertail's death the first and get everyone else hyped for saving the Clans). Even when she does something the journeying cats rightfully calls out as stupid, it leads to positive consequences improbably, like when she successfully saves Brambleclaw from drowning in the sun-drown place even though she doesn't know how to swim, even Stormfur was struggling due to it being the ocean, and that's all without trying to carry someone who is drowning and instinctually thrashing around and trying to pull you with them, which is dangerous even for a strong swimmer. Tawnypelt calls her out for how stupid that is, but she's treated as in the wrong for that because Squirrelpaw got absurdly lucky.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jun 29, 2020 21:15:40 GMT -5
never cared for squirrelflight. she wasn't a mary sue, but it felt a bit too much like the authors expected me to like her without giving me too much reason to besides...spunk, i guess.
unpopular opinion but i also was super disappointed with her warrior name, i was so mad when i read it i threw the book across the room lol. still don't like it. i'm pretty sure that's half the irrational reason i don't like her character.
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Post by Rainfire on Jun 29, 2020 22:31:53 GMT -5
Squirrelflight's attitude as Squirrelpaw is why I fell in love with her as a character in the first place lol
It's been cool to see her go from her early apprentice days to now
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