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Post by TigerLily on May 11, 2020 9:30:46 GMT -5
I may have made this thread before but I love the idea of having extra roles or more specialized roles in the Clans. I understand for simplicity it's not very feasible to have specialization in the Clans but I think it would be neat for AUs or just extra takes on the Warriors world.
If you could add an extra role/multiple extra roles, or add specializations, what would you add?
I was thinking that becoming a warrior would only be the first step for young cats in the Clans, where you learn the essentials of hunting and fighting, and that after becoming a warrior there is another form of apprenticeship to become specialized in a certain aspect of the clan. After this lengthy process, which lasts around 12 moons, a cat is both a warrior and a master.
For example, a young warrior could learn to be:
- A buildmaster
These cats are in charge of maintenance of dens and camp defense. Some are powerful and strong defensive warriors while others use smarts and tactics to make additions to the camp that make it harder to invade. They are often left to guard camp while clawmasters and warriors are sent into the front lines.
- A scoutmaster
Lead hunting patrols, lead search parties, has keen observation. In WindClan, they are the swiftest warriors and often double as a messenger in case news must be sent to other Clans or a patrol on the other side of the moor. In more forested Clans, while speed is not emphasized, they are the best hunters.
- A clawmaster
I took this idea from The Road to Immortality video game, basically the lead fighters in the Clan, comes up with new battle strategies and offensive techniques. Often offensive warriors become clawmasters while warriors wanting to specialize in defense become buildmasters.
- A caremaster
There is no formal training for this position, but if a queen has more than two litters and spends many moons in the nursery, or a tom spends much of his time for many moons in the nursery raising the young, they are treated with great respect as a master of raising the Clan's future warriors. This position is held for life and cannot be retired from, and can also be added to another master title.
[note: when a cat with a mastery becomes deputy or leader, those duties take precedence over mastery duties. However, those cats can still train a young warrior to become a master in their specialization]
- The Storyteller
Memorizes hundreds of Clan stories and myths, interprets the warrior code, keeps position for life- cannot retire. Works in a similar way to being a medicine cat, there can only be two or three maximum per Clan. This position is especially important because the storyteller is an information keeper and historian for all the Clans, but specializes in their own Clan's history.
*cannot become leader from this position
These are just some ideas though, I love to hear what other people think!!!
((edit: I made the names sound better and added some extra notes to the positions))
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 10:00:00 GMT -5
That sounds like a fantastic idea, it'd def be a way to show off each cat's unique skills, and of a cat isn't physically capable of hunting or fighting, there will still be something for them to do, rather than just becoming a medicine cat, or going to the elder's den.
Dustpelt and Brackenfur would probably be master builders lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 11:40:14 GMT -5
I'd like to see more Clan-specific roles, like how only SkyClan has a mediator.
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Post by TigerLily on May 11, 2020 12:03:38 GMT -5
I'd like to see more Clan-specific roles, like how only SkyClan has a mediator. I would love to see that too!! There are definitely some neat things they could do for each Clan culture. |
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Post by mymerlincat on May 11, 2020 13:51:27 GMT -5
#bringbacktunneling
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Post by mymerlincat on May 11, 2020 13:51:27 GMT -5
#bringbacktunneling
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 13:55:18 GMT -5
YES PLEASE! I would love nothing more than for this to happen. |
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Post by TigerLily on May 11, 2020 14:13:52 GMT -5
YES PLEASE! I would love nothing more than for this to happen. There's literally no reason they couldn't!! I loved how special that made WindClan |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 14:17:55 GMT -5
YES PLEASE! I would love nothing more than for this to happen. There's literally no reason they couldn't!! I loved how special that made WindClan I agree, I mean, I know it's dangerous, but so is pretty much everything else. I'm sure that more safety measures could be incorporated, someone said once, that it'd be good not to have apprentices go into the tunnels, or something like that, and I think that's a good idea. They could still get tunneling experience though, like the knowledge of shoring, learning all about the buddy system, and like the other fundamentals. They can even practice their digging to strengthen their arm and shoulder muscles. And then when they get their warrior names, they can start working on the real deals. |
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Post by Brindlefern on May 11, 2020 14:30:53 GMT -5
Caretaker, Builder, and Scout would work just fine for names. The "-master" at the end of them feels clunky imo.
Anyways, for role ideas, I have a few I've seen.
Den Keeper: What I'd call the builders. Cats who keep the camp tidy; check and repair dens and camp barriers. They also tend to act as decorators, especially during holidays.
Messenger: One cat in each clan who sends important messages back and fourth between clans, any one. That way we don't have cases like TST where Rootpaw desperately needed to give an important message to Squirrelflight but couldn't because he wasn't allowed. An assigned clan messenger would be allowed to cross borders if they have something very important to pass along to others outside their residing clan.
Guard: Usually big, tough cats who watch over the camp/medicine den/nursery/elder’s den. They also accompany their leader/medicine cat when they visit other clans.
Collector: Cats who fetch items for other cats (herbs for busy medicine cats, water, things to play with for kits, etc). They also help locate lost items/cats.
For more "Out There" Ones...
Spy: No not like how Bristlefrost was doing by spying on her own clan. I'm talking cats who find out information about the other clans or about the surrounding area that a patrol might not be able to detect without help. They also help with investigations when a crime has been committed or something suspicious has been occurred and a cat is on trial.
Code Keeper: Sort of like a clan lawyer, this cat is very justice focused. They help the leader make accurate judgement of punishment, as well as assists the deputy and/or spy warriors in investigating any situations to help and try to prevent wrong convictions. There can only be one per clan, and they may take an apprentice to specially teach the ways of a Code Keeper. When a Code Keeper apprentice is fully trained, their mentor must step down and choose a new job or retire to the elder’s den
History Keeper: A cat or cats who have an interest in clan history and remember past historical events. They also learn ceremonies that leaders preform in case the leader is not around long enough to teach them to their deputy. This role is reserved specifically for senior warriors and elders, as a younger cat hasn't seen all or a lot of history unlike a much older one. This also gives old cats a role in the clan other than Elder.
Den Mother: The eldest/longest reigning queen in the nursery holds this position. They act as the voice/“leader” of the queens and know everything that goes on in the nursery. They show new kits around camp and are often the one to take older kits on outings. They also act as the head nursery guard.
You likely wouldn't be able to use all of these without the roster to do so, but the clans in canon certainly have more than enough to put one cat somewhere just to. lol
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Post by smilii on May 11, 2020 15:00:56 GMT -5
I'd LOVE for that to be a thing. It'd make a pretty cool roleplay, too!
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Post by Skypaw13 on May 11, 2020 16:15:35 GMT -5
I made a thread about this a really long time ago, and these were the ones I initially came up with:
Guard: Less of a traditional guard and more like a watchman-- they would keep tabs on who came in and out of camp and sound the alarm if anything bad happened. (Briarlight could do this)
Medical Assistant-- they know basic healing knowledge. Not to the point that they could replace the MC, but enough to deal with emergencies that come up outside of camp, or to help in epidemics when the MC needs to rest. (Brightheart and Cinderheart).
Builders-- they're not the only cats who can build, but they're in charge of supervising den builds or any other related project. (Dustpelt and Brackenfur)
Runners-- These cats are typically apprentices in canon, but here they would be any fast cat who could be trusted. Their job is to carry messages between patrols, between patrol and camp, or between camps. They would often be carrying emergency messages, but could also carry just your typical everyday messages if Clan culture changed to make this a necessary job (like Moonkitti discussed in one of her videos).
Since then, I've also come up with these:
Queens-- I'd like if any random mother who moved to the nursery was referred to as a "mother", and the term "Queen" was reserved specifically for the cats who run the nursery.
Teachers-- As it stands in Clan culture, it seems vaguely like every single cat expects to get an apprentice, regardless of any kind of skill in teaching. This leads to certain cats getting favored over others for.. not really good reason. So instead, why not have the same core group of four or five cats responsible for teaching all the apprentices? If one warrior really wanted to, they could become a teacher by their own choice, rather than the leader just... picking. (This one would be concurrent with other roles, so a builder or a medical assistant could also be a teacher).
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 18:21:40 GMT -5
Am I the only one who never saw the appeal of tunneling? Like it just seemed more harmful and dangerous than anything else.
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Post by Skypaw13 on May 11, 2020 18:38:31 GMT -5
Am I the only one who never saw the appeal of tunneling? Like it just seemed more harmful and dangerous than anything else. I always hated it because it seemed like a total retcon. Like, the tunnels were introduced in Power of Three as a mystical place with lots of mystery and danger associated with it, and it was totally new and interesting. And then they just went "well, actually, this existed in WindClan the whole time", which came off as really cheap. |
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Post by coastalwolf on May 11, 2020 19:32:46 GMT -5
thats a wonderful idea actuly i hope that happens
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Post by highprince on May 12, 2020 10:39:39 GMT -5
Oh, I absolutely love the idea of more roles being incorporated
I really want a Messenger type role - a cat that’s allowed to freely go to another clan’s camp when something needs to be told. Sometimes an emergency is happening and you can’t just wait for a patrol to come and question and escort you
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TigerLily
Thinks too much about Warriors
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Post by TigerLily on May 13, 2020 20:39:56 GMT -5
Am I the only one who never saw the appeal of tunneling? Like it just seemed more harmful and dangerous than anything else. I always hated it because it seemed like a total retcon. Like, the tunnels were introduced in Power of Three as a mystical place with lots of mystery and danger associated with it, and it was totally new and interesting. And then they just went "well, actually, this existed in WindClan the whole time", which came off as really cheap. You're right, it's kinda frustrating that they got rid of it in the same book it was introduced in too. I wish they had just added it to the main series as a genuine addition to WindClan culture. Good idea, bad execution. |
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